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    Cheating In Medical Schools?

    How do medical schools deal with students that take photos of tests and exams normally?
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    They can be re-written in many different ways.

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    How is it cheating if old test questions repeat year after year?
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    it happens everywhere i guess

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    Students taking photos of the tests without authorization in order to gain an advantage. I thought that this would constitute cheating.
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    People are cheating on USMLE exam forget MEd sch

    I am hearing cheating on USMLE EXAMS is wide sperad in many countries. After taking photos at centers; different person is let into write exam. Some centers are charging very high $$$$$$$.

    Bottom line; People want 99 if the appilicant cable of getting 75. He will make it through residency and as a physician.


    Yes it is happening and USMLE SHOULD NOT BE ADMINISTRATED out side of US or with in the US CONSULATE by USMLE AUTHORITIES.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD04 View Post
    I am hearing cheating on USMLE EXAMS is wide sperad in many countries. After taking photos at centers; different person is let into write exam. Some centers are charging very high $$$$$$$.

    Bottom line; People want 99 if the appilicant cable of getting 75. He will make it through residency and as a physician.


    Yes it is happening and USMLE SHOULD NOT BE ADMINISTRATED out side of US or with in the US CONSULATE by USMLE AUTHORITIES.
    Cheating on Steps is not only common, but people justify it. I was on a FMG forum a year ago and they justify it for Step 1, 2, CS. They justify Step 2 CS cheating b/c they don't have english as their first language, they don't have US clinicals, and they will do anything to get out of their country. People were giving and still do give CS cases for particular sites after they take the exam. This does explain to me the many cases where FMG's residents I have seen are horrible clinically and can't understand things said to them by patients, yet they passed the CS. It was all made clear to me.

    I have graduated med school already, but I got into some heated exchanges chastising people over cheatring and their ridiculous justifications. I really don't want to potentially have to work in the future with people with this mentality. I would rather fail than cheat. While I have never failed anything, I have gotten a few bad grades(C in undergrad), by not being prepared. I reported the website to USMLE and they did repsond with an email back to me claming they would monitor the website. I doubt they did much about it in tracking down IP addresses and etc..on who sought test materials illegally. Supposedly cheating on USMLE can lead to banning from USMLE. The only way this will stop is if USMLE makes an example by banning(which prevents the licensing of someone in the US) and then promotes that to all as a cautionary tale.

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    cheating...

    Regardless of if one cheats, the lack of proper knowledge will be reflected during clinical rotations and residency. I have heard of individuals being kicked out of residency programs for not meeting standards.

    So, the end that person will lose. I just don't see someone getting pushed thru residency with little knowledge (especially now and in the future with matching becoming even more competitive)

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    Cheating...

    For those who don't cheat, and make a lot of personal sacrifice to study hard for every exam...
    I hate cheaters. Plus it shows an extreme lack of character and IMHO these people don't really deserve to be physicians in the first place. If one is willing to cheat, especially on something as important as the USMLE, why would it stop there?
    I think this type of behavior crosses over into one's professional and personal life in the end. If the stakes are high enough, why not?
    Not to mention, we're dealing with people's lives and their well-being is based on our knowledge and proficiency. How dare one risk another's health simply because one is lazy?

    I think someone should make an example of one of them and stop them from practicing. Ever.

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    cheating

    arista29,

    I agree - a physician is an individual in whom people entrust their lives. The highest standards of ethical and moral character are fundamentally expected. I am sure people cheat, but if I knew how one became a physician by subterfuge and serpentine efforts, then I would lose all respect for that individual.

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    the main problem is not about the respect that we can have for those people who cheat,but they will have patient's life in their end and if they didn't deserve to be a doctor it can lead to drama and maybe patient's death!

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