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    Hello
    My daughter graduated from UofT in Biology with a cGPA of 2.88 and is planning to take the mcat early next year. Her acdemics are way too low to be accepted in canada, at least thats what i believe. what should she do and choices for med school. any comments/advice will be appreciated. thanks.

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    Is that the University of Toronto, Texas, Tennessee? I'm guessing Toronto. Regardless, from what I have read about Canadian med school admissions, you are probably correct. A 2.88 GPA will not likely get it done.

    Many Canadians are studying in Europe or the Carib, and they are both good options. I cannot comment on the islands, since I am not there, but my class in Bulgaria has a good number of Canucks. The other school I was seriously considering, University of Zagreb in Croatia, has a lot of Canadians as well. That school (UZMS) is approved for some sort of Canadian government loan program, as well, which is nice. Details are on their website. I would LOVE to live and study in Zagreb, it is an amazing place.

    I think that her options will mainly depend on her individual interests, frankly... along with making sure that she really wants to become a physician, herself.

    You can find out about all sorts of schools in this forum, and the research will do her good! I hope it all works out well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by linx3566 View Post
    Hello
    My daughter graduated from UofT in Biology with a cGPA of 2.88 and is planning to take the mcat early next year. Her acdemics are way too low to be accepted in canada, at least thats what i believe. what should she do and choices for med school. any comments/advice will be appreciated. thanks.
    The better schools in the Caribbean are SGU, AUC, Ross and Saba. These 4 have all 50 states. They also have federally backed stafford loans, although if your daughter is Canadian it won't matter.

    Coming from a foreign school (outside Canada) your daughter's chances of matching into a residency in Canada are marginal. As a graduate of a Caribbean school that has clinical rotations in the US, she would have a very good chance to match in the US (if her Step scores are good ect). She could look for work in Canada after completing residency.

    Having said that, SGU had a few outstanding matches in Canada this year. See link to their match list SGU Residency Postings for 2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by linx3566 View Post
    Hello
    My daughter graduated from UofT in Biology with a cGPA of 2.88 and is planning to take the mcat early next year. Her acdemics are way too low to be accepted in canada, at least thats what i believe. what should she do and choices for med school. any comments/advice will be appreciated. thanks.

    IF She is planning to return to Canada, best bet, stick around for an extra year, upgrade her GPA to at LEAST 3.2 GPA, and better MCAT scores.


    She can obtain a MSc or MA degree in that year, which will increase her chances to good MD program.

    2.88 GPA is VERY low !! Even for Caribbean medical schools !!

    Licensing In Canada is Hard on IMGs......better attend a GOOD MD program, either in Canada, the US, or Europe.

    Alternative is the DO Program, which is now approved in Canada as an MD program, many will accept her if she has 3.2 or higher.

    Then SGU or AUC, if she has 3.0-3.2 with average MCATS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cavalletti View Post
    The better schools in the Caribbean are SGU, AUC, Ross and Saba. These 4 have all 50 states. They also have federally backed stafford loans, although if your daughter is Canadian it won't matter.
    Having said that, SGU had a few outstanding matches in Canada this year. See link to their match list SGU Residency Postings for 2008
    Exactly my point, SGU is the TOP MD Program in the Caribbean, and only selected few were matched in Canada, my advice, get better GPA, by obtaining a MA / MSc / MPH.

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    What do you guys think about Autonomous University of Guadalajara? Although not a Caribbean school per se, I heard that it is equal in reputation and comparison to SGU. Also I heard the 5th pathway they use is back.

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    To be honest with you with that GPA if she did her masters her chances in Canada would still be a long shot.

    I don't know the exact chance she might have but I do know people with 3.7 in undergrad and a masters who have gotten rejected, however they did receive interviews. If she still wanted to get into Canada she could apply to US schools or Carib.

    Carib isn't a bad option as many Canadians land residencies every year in the US and coming back to Ontario has become much easier if you are a licensed doctor in the US. But it will definitely be a tougher process compared to a Canadian or even American med school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Born 2 XLR8 View Post
    What do you guys think about Autonomous University of Guadalajara? Although not a Caribbean school per se, I heard that it is equal in reputation and comparison to SGU. Also I heard the 5th pathway they use is back.
    you heard wrong. just compare the two school's match list. i bet Auto's match list is no where close to SGU's. also I bet the USMLE step1 pass rates aren't as high either. And does it have US clinical rotations? probably not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiz77 View Post
    To be honest with you with that GPA if she did her masters her chances in Canada would still be a long shot.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiz77 View Post

    I don't know the exact chance she might have but I do know people with 3.7 in undergrad and a masters who have gotten rejected, however they did receive interviews. If she still wanted to get into Canada she could apply to US schools or Carib. But it will definitely be a tougher process compared to a Canadian or even American med school.


    I agree, with a GPA under 3.0 it is a tough one, really not good.....Honestly, better take a year off, do her masters, then re-apply to good programs. Best bet is the MPH !

    True, she can attend SGU, and complete her residency in the US, then come back to Canada, as a licensed MD from the US,

    HOWEVER, she will have difficulties finding hospitals that will sponser her with H1-B, I know it is NOT as easy as it used to be.....

    Lots to think about,

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    I don't think you understand how incredibly difficult it is to get into med schools in Canada, I know one person who was rejected the first time but got in the second time and he had a 3.6 GPA and a 38 (14,14,10) on the MCAT.

    Another person I know got rejected with a 32 on the MCAT and a 3.96 GPA after 2 interviews and is doing masters. Another person got rejected with a 3.7 GPA and 33 MCAT, no interviews because he had a 9 in Verbal and Canadian med schools don't even look at you if you don't have 10,10,10 for cutoffs. The first person is doing his masters, the second is at Saba.

    Finally I'll tell you about two friends I know. Both are in their late 20s, one was a graduate of U of T, had a 3.7 GPA 28 MCAT, applied didn't get in, did a masters in some crazy cardio program, applied, didn't get in and is now wasting his time doing lab tech work and continues to reapply year after year, getting rejected. Another had a 3.3 GPA and a 25 MCAT, went to Ross and is now in his second year of internal med residency in NYC.

    Personally I think the Canadian system for choosing applicants is ridiculous (3 out of 6 med schools in Ont don't even have MCAT as a reqt.) I would highly suggest the Carib route for her unless it has been a dream of hers to do radiology or plastics. H1 visa I have no clue about but take a quick look at the schools with a good proportion of Canadians (Saba, SGU and MUA) and people are matching every year successfully. Finally what I also hear is that getting the J visa is easy for Canadians and getting residency for Canadians is not a problem.

    Oh and also I would suggest Saba over SGU because of the 100k difference in tuition.
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