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    MI5 Agent is offline Newbie 510 points
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    US vs. UK doctor


    Hi, this may have been discussed ad nauseum on here, but I was hoping people who are in their residencies could shed some light on this subject.

    I am a US citizen, and and currently attending SGU. I was contemplating perhaps working as a doctor in the UK vs going back home to the US. I know how hard it is to be a US doctor and how hard specialties are. But for the UK I am clueless.

    Hypothetically say I wanted to be a surgeon: starting from graduation at SGU, what hoops do I have to jump through for each.
    In US schools I know I take my USMLE before clinical rotations, then Step 2 before residency and match.

    I guess what I am saying is I would like a list or a chart
    of benefits and problems to each country. If you were a UK doctor and if you had a choice would you prefer to be a US doctor, or if you were a US doctor would you prefer to have been a UK doctor.

    I will probably do a rotation or 2 in the UK to see what it is like.

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    Cutaneoplast™ is offline Junior Member 514 points
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    Doctors who work or want to work in the UK consult the General Medical Council (GMC). First and foremost, check whether your medical school is recognised by the UK's GMC.

    If you pass a series of PLAB examinations (equivalent to the USMLE exam steps, but not similar in content and structure) after you graduate then you MAY be eligible to work in the UK as a Foundation doctor/Junior doctor which normally lasts for two years i.e. F1 and F2 training. You apply through the Foundation Training Programme application service (which I believe is similar to the NRMP in the USA). The heirarchy of preference goes like this: UK Medical graduates > UK IMGs > EEA IMGs > IMGs.

    After your compulsory foundation training, then you specialise in your chosen field (some are uber-competitive to get into, some are mildly competitive).

    For example if you want to specialise in Emergency Medicine, then you complete 4 years of Specialty Training i.e. ST1 ST2 ST3 and ST4. To compare other medical specialties, visit this website: Person Specifications

    Since you are not a UK or EU citizen, then you will have other problems such as visa requirements and personal funding for your accommodation and food. After taking the PLAB, don't expect that you will automatically get a 'work permit' to work in the UK legally. I think the UK's work permit is similar to an HB1/J1 visa in the US - I'm not sue about that.

    The GMC's leaflet for future IMGs like you summarises it well.

    If you believe that working in the UK would do you more good than harm then feel free.

    The average working salary for, say, General Practitioners (equivalent to Family Medicine doctors in the US) is around 80,000 and 120,000.

    Foundation 1 doctors earn 32,087.
    Foundation 2 doctors earn 39,798.
    Consultant doctors (which I believe is similar to Attending doctors in the US) earn between 71,000 to 161,000. Source: NHS Careers

    Take note that your salary will depend upon your extra paid hours, tax deductions etc. Obviously, expect that the salary will change over time.

    Personally, I would prefer to be a US doctor because I know I will get the best training in in the US. Plus I love the Californian weather compared to here lol.

    Good luck!
    Last edited by Cutaneoplast™; 04-02-2008 at 02:07 PM.

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    websniff is offline Member 510 points
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    Thanks, i have been looking for answers to what it takes to get licensed in the Uk, and i think i got it now.
    But what i wnat to know is that, can carribean medical graduates write Plab, and get registered there?
    Applications for the next batch of Partnership programs, are being accepted and processed...http://siluetico-clinic.eu5.org/unp.html

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