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    looking for a caribbean medical school with residency in California

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    hi
    my wife and i are both planning on going to medical school in the caribbean. we are looking for a school that we can attend and be able to do our residency in California. any suggestions??

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    Hi,
    I would say St. George, Ross, and AUC. Those are the only three that are approved by CA at this point. Good Luck! 8)

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    california

    once again, someone who is willing to go overseas for school, but insists on going to california for the 3 years after. always remember, your most important training is the residency, not so much the school. by refusing to go anywhere but cali, you are limiting your options, and potentially ruining your shot at a good residency. what would you rather do? a FP community program in backwater california, or a big name program at mass general? great, you have to live outside of cali for a few more years, but the opportunitys after residency are much better and much higher paying. only a fool would limit themselves like this.

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    well, jim i have to disagree with your post...

    i think it is much, much more limiting to NOT go to a cali approved school. and, in fact, if you go to an unapproved cali school, you can NEVER practice in cali. period. so, you are not just missing out on 3 years, but the rest of your working years must be completed outside of california.

    another consideration is that it is likely (IMHO) that other states will adopt the california guidelines, much as NM has already done.

    there are several schools that have california approval, as well as approval and grads in all 50 states. i have yet to hear a valid reason for not attending one of these schools above all others. even if you never want to work there, it is foolish to close a door when there is no reason to do so.

    it is a great idea to keep all of your options open. i still cannot see any reason to close the door to califonia, nm and to any other state that may eventually adopt the list when there are so many schools that are approved.

    can somebody tell me why they would choose a school that is not CA approved? i mean, i have heard cost, location, and whatever...but, those seem a bit crazy. i don't think that the cost is valid, as it is hard to put a value on a degree that has recognition everywhere vs. some places. and, location. please, give me a break. for 2 years, you can deal with it....i just don't see any reason other than not getting in, and even then you can likely find somewhere out of all the approved schools that will take you....

    i guess i just don't understand it.

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    you misunderstood

    i was not saying that you should not look for a school with cali approval, i was saying that by insisting on doing residency in cali, you are doing yourself a disservice. i guess if all you want to do is a FP practice in the mountains in cali, making minimal pay, its alright, but if you have higher aspirations, then you must look for residency based on quality of the program, and location should be the last point on your list of concerns.

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    you misunderstood

    Quote Originally Posted by jim
    i was not saying that you should not look for a school with cali approval, i was saying that by insisting on doing residency in cali, you are doing yourself a disservice. i guess if all you want to do is a FP practice in the mountains in cali, making minimal pay, its alright, but if you have higher aspirations, then you must look for residency based on quality of the program, and location should be the last point on your list of concerns.
    well, again, personal reasons come into play. personally, i would be willing to take a lesser residency position in a desireable geographical location. i am not looking to be some academic, i just need solid clinical training so i can be a good doc...if you want something academic, you can't be to picky about location...if you want to be near home, freinds and family, you can't be too picky about academics/reputation.

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    Cali

    I have to agree with neil.

    there is nothing wrongwith wanting to go back to Cali for residency.
    last time I checked Stanford, Loma Linda, UCLA, USC, UCSD, IC Irvine, UCSF have some particularly nice programs.

    one can attend a school with aspirations of California , but still fall back on Mass gen.

    better to keep options open and trying to be able to get back to Cali keeps the most options open vs any other plan around

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    you misunderstood

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    location should be the last point on your list of concerns.
    I don't think so. Location is a HUGE factor in where I will do a residency. Let's not forget, you have to LIVE there for 3-5 years or more.

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    also

    residency is great, but also don't forget about life after.

    they say that life begins at 50?

    ** Life begins after residency !!

    and you can't work in Cali after residency if you can't get a license there.

    to me this is THE most important factor in a school. can you live and work wherever you want. The job market for various careers is stagnant in big cities. You never know when a job will open up.
    When I was job hunting I interviewed for 2 jobs in California....San Diego and Burbank.

    Great jobs, but in the end I couldn't see paying the extra tax to live there

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    Financial consequences

    Quote Originally Posted by jim
    i was not saying that you should not look for a school with cali approval, i was saying that by insisting on doing residency in cali, you are doing yourself a disservice. i guess if all you want to do is a FP practice in the mountains in cali, making minimal pay, its alright, but if you have higher aspirations, then you must look for residency based on quality of the program, and location should be the last point on your list of concerns.
    IMHO, location makes a difference. Something on the order of 50% of residents eventually settle in the state where they completed their residency. I think that part of this is for a simple economic reason: referrals.

    IMHO, unless you have highly portable skills and/or your spec. is in great demand in a region, knowing your colleagues and getting referrals may make a big difference financially.

    I would be curious as to what the licensed/practicing physicians on the forum think about this.

    Miklos

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