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    oritsegee is offline Junior Member 510 points
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    I've just got admission to the University of Manitoba for undergraduate studies, after which I plan to go on to medical school (assuming i eventually enrol). I believe that American education is the best so that's my first choice. However, I am considering Caribbean medical schools because there's so much competition to get into d American ones and i'm neither a citizen nor a permanent resident.

    Also, I'm considering going for a 6-year programme in Hungary, primarily because it is far more affordable than American or Caribbean medical schools. Also, I wouldn't have to go thru the stress of applying to a medical school again. If I go this way, I plan to do the USMLE, EFCMG etc.

    I want a degree that would be recognized in as many places as possible because I am interested in practicing in several parts of the world - Europe, the Middle East, Africa, US. I would like to know which medical schools prepare you better for global practice - Caribbean or Eastern Europe.

    Now, I know that the best option would be to study in the US, but assuming I go to Hungary, write and pass the USMLE, become EFCMG certified and get into the American system. Would I be considered as equal or inferior to those who studied in the US?
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    Miklos is offline Elite Member 511 points
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    Quote Originally Posted by oritsegee
    I've just got admission to the University of Manitoba for undergraduate studies, after which I plan to go on to medical school (assuming i eventually enrol). I believe that American education is the best so that's my first choice. However, I am considering Caribbean medical schools because there's so much competition to get into d American ones and i'm neither a citizen nor a permanent resident.

    Also, I'm considering going for a 6-year programme in Hungary, primarily because it is far more affordable than American or Caribbean medical schools. Also, I wouldn't have to go thru the stress of applying to a medical school again. If I go this way, I plan to do the USMLE, EFCMG etc.

    I want a degree that would be recognized in as many places as possible because I am interested in practicing in several parts of the world - Europe, the Middle East, Africa, US. I would like to know which medical schools prepare you better for global practice - Caribbean or Eastern Europe.

    Now, I know that the best option would be to study in the US, but assuming I go to Hungary, write and pass the USMLE, become EFCMG certified and get into the American system. Would I be considered as equal or inferior to those who studied in the US?
    In order to answer your question, it would be helpful to know the following.

    1. Do you have Canadian citizenship or landed immigrant status?
    2. Is medicine the only field that interests you?

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    I go to school in Hungary (DOTE). I have many interviews for IM in the states. I am US citizen though. A canadian degree has more esteem for the US schools than anything outside. I would go to the Canadian school and then apply to US for residency. Maybe I didn't read your post right, but I don't see your problem if you go to Canadain school. Ok, sorry just read you are UNDERGRAD!!! Try Canada/US first. Just study, study, study kick *** on MCAT and you should be ok, but I do understand it can be a tough decision to do a 6 year EE school are take a CHANCE in north america. it is a gamble, I agree. Caribb schools require undergraduate degree, so thats a plan b automatically. enjoy your undergrad years, study, do well on MCAT. However, with that said, we have people coming to Hungary with 31+ MCAT scores because they cant get in the states. Are you confused enough? GL

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    oritsegee is offline Junior Member 510 points
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    I do not have Canadian citizenship or landed immigrant status. I am a Nigerian citizen. Medicine is the only field that interests me, I've always wanted to be a doctor, though I haven't been exposed to very many other options. I want to study in the US bcos I believe I would get a better education there. I believe that I can work hard enough to get into a US medical college, however, I was admitted to a university there but didn't get a visa to go and I know that can happen at any stage. So I'm open to other places just in case the US doesn't work out.
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    Miklos is offline Elite Member 511 points
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    Quote Originally Posted by oritsegee
    I do not have Canadian citizenship or landed immigrant status. I am a Nigerian citizen. Medicine is the only field that interests me, I've always wanted to be a doctor, though I haven't been exposed to very many other options. I want to study in the US bcos I believe I would get a better education there. I believe that I can work hard enough to get into a US medical college, however, I was admitted to a university there but didn't get a visa to go and I know that can happen at any stage. So I'm open to other places just in case the US doesn't work out.
    Well, then the next question is can you afford non-resident tuition for 4 years of university with no guarantee of acceptance to medical school. If accepted to medical school, without gaining citizenship in the meantime, etc... you would need to pay non-resident tuition again for 4 years.

    As a non-resident, there are no loans nor grants available, so you can count on paying well upwards of 40,000 USD per year for tuition alone (nevermind living expenses). If you've got the money, go for it.

    However, keep in mind that there is no guarantee of admission to a US medical school.

    OTOH, if you are able to spend that kind of money, you may wish to consider other options such as Ireland. You can get a degree in 6 years time, the schools have great (IMO not really deserved, but that's another post) reputations and instruction is in English.
    Last edited by Miklos; 11-26-2005 at 04:20 AM.

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    oritsegee is offline Junior Member 510 points
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    I've thought about all that and that's why I began to consider other options. I have sponsorship for the undergraduate years, it is the medical school expenses that bother me a little. I told my father about the high cost of medical expenses in the US, but he keeps saying it won't be a problem by then. I hope so.

    I thought of Ireland in August when I couldn't go to the US, but they said I would have to do a 1-year programme, like A-levels, first in Dublin so I didn't pursue it further.
    GL

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    Miklos is offline Elite Member 511 points
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    Quote Originally Posted by oritsegee
    I've thought about all that and that's why I began to consider other options. I have sponsorship for the undergraduate years, it is the medical school expenses that bother me a little. I told my father about the high cost of medical expenses in the US, but he keeps saying it won't be a problem by then. I hope so.

    I thought of Ireland in August when I couldn't go to the US, but they said I would have to do a 1-year programme, like A-levels, first in Dublin so I didn't pursue it further.
    Just so you understand:

    Applying as a non-resident with a Canadian undergraduate degree to a U.S. medical school will present real difficulties. A high MCAT score is simply a must. However, even that along with an excellent GPA carries no guarantees of admission. (BTW, getting into Canadian schools may be even more difficult.)

    Also know that medicine is not for the faint of heart. Many, many people decide at some point during their medical education that it is not for them. Some decide this prior to med school, some during, some after.

    If you are 100% sure that medicine is for you and you are motivated enough to put up with the challenges of education in CE (these are not be minimized) as well as the challenges of being an IMG (e.g. not getting top or choice residencies), then you may wish to consider CE. Otherwise, forget about it.

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    Since no one else has bothered to tell you this, there is no general consensus (outside of the US) that the MD from the US is better than MDs from other countries. If you just like the US or you have some other personal reason for trying to go there, then I understand. But if you are going to go through all this effort because you think your education will be better in the US than in any other countries then I think you are being mislead. Of course, the country with the "best" education is ultimately an opinion and I just wanted to throw mine out there. Maybe the best education has much more to do with the student and not with the country.
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    oritsegee is offline Junior Member 510 points
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    I'm sure that medicine is for me and I believe that I have the motivation to go for it. I've always thought I would get a better education in the US bcos they're more advanced technologically than most other countries. Also, most of the well-respected professionals in Nigeria now are US-trained. I guess that's why I prefer there. However, I'm open to anywhere that I'll get good training and my degree would be recognized. I've applied to the University of Szeged, Hungary and I'm waiting for their representative here to contact me. Pls I would like names of any other good schools in dat region.
    GL

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    Miklos is offline Elite Member 511 points
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    Quote Originally Posted by oritsegee
    I'm sure that medicine is for me and I believe that I have the motivation to go for it. I've always thought I would get a better education in the US bcos they're more advanced technologically than most other countries. Also, most of the well-respected professionals in Nigeria now are US-trained. I guess that's why I prefer there. However, I'm open to anywhere that I'll get good training and my degree would be recognized. I've applied to the University of Szeged, Hungary and I'm waiting for their representative here to contact me. Pls I would like names of any other good schools in dat region.
    Which specialty interests you and where do you want to practice?

    You wrote eariler that you'd like to practice in "Europe, the Middle East, Africa, US"-- truth be told I'm not sure that is realistic.

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