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    Hi there, I am 3rd year international medical student from Turkey. I am not an ideal student and not bad student either, my grades are mainly above the average and about 70. However, as a personality I am very idealistic. My aim is to graduate from medical school and be an internationally recognized professional surgeon (haha so idealistic dream), and come back to my motherland and serve their for rest of my life. To pursue my dream i think i have 4 options:

    1.Do residency in my motherland, and during or after residency try to participate in some German or US postgraduate programs.

    2. Do residency in turkey and then go back to my motherland.

    3. Residency in Germany and then go back to my motherland.

    4. Residency in USA and then go ,to Tajikistan, to my motherland.

    As every option has it own requirements I should have make a decision. Any ideas? Thank you.

    NOTE: I HAVE TIME PROBLEM, I MEAN I SHOULD TAKE THE FASTEST WAY TO ACHIEVE MY GOAL.

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    If you are looking for international recognition, then the US or Germany would probably have to be the choices. Germany would probably be a faster start, but the training would be a year or so longer. The US would require the USMLEs (with competitive scores), ECFMG certification, and going through the yearly match, with no guarantee of a position at the end. That is expensive and a lengthy process, whereas Germany hires Assistenzärzte (residents) all the time without a match process. You would need to speak B2 German (or better, preferably better), but if you could get hired then you would be starting very soon after graduation. For comparison, training as a General Surgeon in the US is 5 years (but you have to go through the match and all of that, so it would likely be a later start), and in Germany it is about 6 years (but can take longer depending on the quality of the training wherever you are hired).

    There are some excellent and well-respected surgeons in Turkey, but the international recognition aspect is harder to come by in that regard. Additionally, the quality of care really runs the gamut in Turkey from excellent to pretty terrible (we have a lot of Turkish patients at the university hospital where I work, and we see all kinds of things). While I have no first hand knowledge about the state of surgical training in your motherland, I would think Tajikstan is too out-of-the-way and too much of a wild card to be an ideal option, especially if you are keyed up for international recognition.

    Good luck, man, wherever you go.
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    First of all, thank you DD. For about 4 years we know each others man and during all that period i have asked too many questions, and because of uncertainty, the lack of confidence and possible failure some of that question were ridiculous, some were repeated too many times, but despite to all about YOU have helped and still you are trying to help.... Thank you man i do really appreciate it.

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    If you are looking for international recognition
    I think i should clarify it, by saying "international recognition" i mean a MD with mastered clinical, research an educational skills and background according to modern and international requirements. So being recognized by medical society is not so important to me. my aim is to learn required knowledge and skills, apply them in my practice and try to "transfer" all that amount of info to Tajikistan by,maybe, teaching new students.

    As i mentioned earlier, i have time issues. My parents are at their 50s and alone. I have been far away from my family for 8 years.... So i need the pathway with less risk. So wouldn't the fist path be best option for me?
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    Hey, Tajik... yeah, that does change things a bit. I do not know the required length of training in Tajikstan, but if you are planning to work there anyway (and considering your meaning of "international recognition," which I totally misunderstood) then that might well be faster. The German option is not risky, assuming language ability, but the acquisition of the language could make it longer. The US option is quite risky, indeed, for a foreign national wanting surgical training. Turkey would probably work out well, but it would be more time away from home.

    Training in Tajikstan could mean that the acceptance of your training in other locations (later in life) might be compromised somewhat, but I think that you could probably attend conferences and special training programs in Western countries.

    I understand what you mean about the importance of family, and I wish you well on your journey. Good luck!

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