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    is it better in germany or sweden?

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    which is the better for studying medicine? in germany, or sweden?
    i always read that germany is the best, but my uncle (which had lived everywhere in the world...) said that sweden is better. can you please tell me if its true?

    if it is, then what university would you recommend me (a 16years old, indonesian, 3rd year on high school) to check? i want to know the tuition fees and the requirement. also, the length of study. because i think it varies from place to place. for example here in indonesia it took 5 years, and in germany it is 6 years.

    thanks guys

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    Sweden accepts almost no foreign medical students, so that is a pretty easy decision. You will not likely be studying medicine in Sweden.

    German training is absolutely excellent. "Best" is a matter of opinion, but it is definitely world class and very competitive. However, in order to study there you will need to speak fluent German (at least C2-level, more likely Advanced Diploma). Google is your friend.

    https://www.study-in.de/en/community/chat/--15755

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    they accept almost no foreign medical students? but they still do, even though its only a few right?

    about germany, how about the environment? my uncle said that when he lived there for two years, he always got beaten up by thugs on the street.

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    According to everything I have heard from Swedish students, there are not enough slots in medical school even for Swedes with perfect grades, so they end up having to study elsewhere in the EU (Poland, Hungary, etc.). Yes, a few foreigners get in each year (you need to already speak Swedish), but I would certainly not bet money on a foreigner's chances of getting into a Swedish medical school, or even a Swedish training residency. (Once you are already specialized, THEN you can likely get a job as a doctor in Sweden.)

    I have read recently about minorities having significant difficulties in Sweden, as well. Racism is certainly not limited to Germany, or the American South, or Poland, or whatever.

    Germany itself is a pretty great place, and the "environment" depends largely on the area. The country is not full of thugs, although there are certainly some depressed areas where that might be a problem. In general, in university cities (especially in the western part of the country) the people usually tend to be more liberal and open to foreigners. I do not know where your uncle was living, but that city does not sound like a great place to study.

    Long story short, as a foreigner you have a significantly better mathematical chance of getting accepted to a German medical school than to a Swedish medical school.
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    thanks for the information man, that is really helpful! i think germany will be the better choice then. language is not really a problem for me, and i dont really care when my friends said that the payment for doctors there are really low.
    about the city, what do you think about berlin?

    oh, and I've been searching about uk too. I'm thinking of london. but I'm still not sure hahaha

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    Payment for physicians in Sweden is also rather on the low side, comparatively.
    Berlin is an amazing city.
    Medical school in the UK is great, and foreigners certainly study there, but it is very expensive... while tuition in Germany is incredibly cheap. Aside from that, foreigners (non-EU/UK) are generally not allowed a work permit/visa for specialty training in the UK after graduation, even if they studied in the UK. It is ridiculous, but currently how things tend to roll.
    (With that said, nobody knows exactly how things will look in 5-6 years with regard to foreign docs working in the EU/UK countries.)

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    yeah I've heard about that. so i guess its germany then. I'm planning to continue until specialty training. i want to become a surgeon because i was saved by one when i was little hahahha :P not exactly sure what kind of surgeon though. my parents told me if i want to become a surgeon, just be a heart surgeon. a few of my friends told me that brain surgeon gets a lot more payment than heart surgeon, but i think i'll just follow my parent's advice since they know better. not to brag, but I'm in a pretty well-off family anyway so i dont really care about the payment like i just said.

    anything else i should know about germany? like maybe how's the specialty training there?

    anyway, i really appreciate your help man.
    I'm currently studying german. I'm graduating in one month though. i wish i had studied german since a long time ago.

    oh, do you know of any website where i can compare my result slip? i mean, some website to test whether an indonesian graduates are qualified to study there directly or have to go through studienkolleg? even though I'm pretty sure that i have to go to studienkolleg first, i guess it won't hurt to check I'm aiming for charite

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