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    M.D degree in ukraine.

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    Does the degree of Doctor of Medicine that is Completed in one of the universities in Ukraine is acceptable in the European Union?

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    Not automatically, no. You have to apply for it from EU country to EU country, and absolutely nothing is guaranteed.

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    The degree itself will be accepted (depends on uni) but the issue is with a permission to practice. Will need to do a re-certification in each individual EU country where you want to work. That means local exams (language), time and associated costs.

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    Perhaps I am in the minority, but I would consider those elements related... "degree acceptance" and "permission to practice."

    At any rate, proving the point, needing "to do a re-certification in each individual EU country" means precisely that the degree is not automatically accepted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildoc8404 View Post
    Perhaps I am in the minority, but I would consider those elements related... "degree acceptance" and "permission to practice."

    At any rate, proving the point, needing "to do a re-certification in each individual EU country" means precisely that the degree is not automatically accepted.
    Degree is an academic accomplishment, therefore, as long as it is legit in a country of origin, it will be (with few exceptions) accepted elsewhere. Degree on its own is insufficient to practice medicine. That is why you need to sit an exam to prove your skills aka being certified.

    One can quite easily go work (EU work permit ) for pharma with just having done 4-6 years of med school - degree is automatically accepted, no need for certification. Although this is probably not what the question was about..

    Is the degree accepted in EU? - yes
    Is that enough to practice medicine? - no
    Semantics..

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    Yes, Im just sure the OP was talking about acceptance of the medical degree to work for a pharmaceutical corporation.

    I think that in most VMD threads, unless stated otherwise, we can safely surmise that when someone asks about "degree acceptance" they mean "actually being allowed to practice medicine." Semantics matter, yes, but they must not be utilized to mislead people. (i.e. "YES, this degree is ACCEPTED in the European Union" while not stating that the poor person will not be allowed to practice medicine there, anyway.)

    There are other stipulations, certainly, such as language skills, and even citizenship in some cases, but if the degree is not automatically accepted (TO PRACTICE MEDICINE) and requires additional academic steps, then that should definitely be part of the discussion. And even if the degree is automatically accepted (TO PRACTICE MEDICINE), there could be other considerations that render one unable to take advantage of that benefit. (Like not being a UK/EU citizen and wanting to work in the UK, for example. Wont happen, no matter where you studied. Even in the UK itself.)
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    hey Crbon I'm just curious what do you mean one can work for pharma?

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    There are some jobs in medical(-ish) industry where 4 years of med school is enough to get a job. Can't touch people though. One option would be working for pharmaceuticals. Probably not a choice for most on VMD as clearly explained by devildoc above

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    Which country is better for study medicine UKRAINE/PHILIPPINES?

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    Quote Originally Posted by albatross View Post
    Which country is better for study medicine UKRAINE/PHILIPPINES?
    Where do you want to study after med school? Where do you want to practice? What languages do you speak? What school can you afford? Which school will accept you? What is your understanding of 'better'? There is no one answer. It all depends on your circumstances.

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