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    Clinical Rotation Contents of The Medical Schools

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    Hi guys,

    At last I found the clinical rotation and internship contents and criteria of a school, Hacettepe. It is just a beginning point to gather concrete data about our schools and see which ones really deserve credit, in clinicals.

    To contribute and see how really the big picture of the schools will gain a shape:

    1) You can take the rotation list of the subjects you are interested in, create your own thread under the relevant forum, and place your own words under the relevant subject lines. Later we can get them together by giving links to your threads under a global thread.

    Example:
    If you are from Jagiellonian and did your rotation in Internal Diseases, then you can copy&paste the Internal Diseases rotation list from this thread to your own thread in Jagiellonian Forum (if there is no school level forum, then in the country level forum, in our case Polish Schools Forum.)
    In your Internal Diseases rotation if you got in "Chronic Liver Diseases" subject, then you can say a word about it, at least yes/no, or better than that, which kind patients/diseases specifically you saw.
    If you had other subjects in your rotation that dont take place in the list here, then you can place them as well so that it clarifies the width of limits of the school.

    2) You can develop your own rotation list from scratch.

    Please tell your opinions to develop this, so that all of the prospectives can have a better and concrete idea about the schools, and dont pick one of them with an idea based on word of mouth and just with a paradigm of "good school".

    Thank you..

    PS: I made the translation; so if you see any problem with it, please let me know so that I will fix it.
    Last edited by bidiboom; 11-30-2011 at 10:33 AM.

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    Internal Diseases Rotation
    4th Year

    Subjects

    • History taking
    • Lung disease symptoms-signs-I
    • Breast(or chest?) examination-I
    • Treatment of Diabetes Mellitus
    • Treatment of Tuberculosis
    • Examination of the extremities
    • Clinical approach to renal failure
    • Abdominal examination
    • Abdominal pain
    • Treatment for COPD
    • Examination of heart-circulation system
    • General appearance
    • Hypertension: Clinical approach in diagnosis and treatment
    • Heart disease symptoms-findings
    • Blood pressure-pulse
    • Diarrhea-constipation
    • Head and neck examination
    • Chronic liver diseases
    • Heart failure
    • Coronary artery disease
    • Approach to the lower respiratory tract infections
    • Bronchial asthma
    • Preventive medicine practices
    • Periodic health check
    • Lower GIT bleeding
    • Fluid and electrolyte balance: a clinical approach
    • Pulmonary thromboembolism
    • Clinical approach to anemia
    • Acute leukemias
    • Chronic leukemias
    • Rheumatic heart disease
    • Symptoms and signs of rheumatologic diseases
    • Hypercoagulability
    • Acid-base balance: a clinical approach
    • Hypercalcemia
    • Infective endocarditis diagnosis, treatment and prevention
    • Transfusion medicine
    • Endocrinology emergencies
    • Hematuria, proteinuria, and glomerular diseases, the clinical approach
    • Rheumatoid arthritis
    • Peptic ulcer
    • Acute pericarditis and pericardial effusion
    • Introduction to Geriatrics
    • Clinical electrocardiography
    • Upper gastrointestinal tract bleeding
    • Systemic lupus erythematosus
    • Physiological changes in geriatric age group
    • Alzheimer's disease
    • Arrhythmias
    • Chemotherapeutic agents
    • Pleural diseases
    • Approach to fever of unknown origin
    • Metabolic bone diseases and osteoporosis
    • Hepatitides
    • The differential diagnosis of lymphadenopathy
    • Hyperlipidemia
    • Obesity
    • Clinical approach to patients with cytopenias
    • Clinical approach to patients with increased blood elements
    • Treatment in genitourinary tract infections
    • Clinical approach in central nervous system infections
    • Approach to hand hygiene and nosocomial infections
    • Vasculitis
    • Lymphoproliferative disorders
    • Oncologic emergencies
    • Seronegative arthritis
    • Other connective tissue diseases
    • Approach to intensive care patient
    • Cardiopulmonary resuscitation
    • Shock
    • Acute respiratory failure: definition, pathophysiology, its clinical and laboratory
    • Acute respiratory failure: Patient follow-up

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    Last edited by bidiboom; 11-30-2011 at 05:15 AM.

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    Child Health and Diseases Rotation
    4th Year

    Subjects

    • Approach to child patients
    • Growth and evaluation
    • Examination of respiratory system, clinical symptoms and findings
    • Examination of cardiovascular system
    • Examination of the abdomen and anorectal region
    • Neurological examination
    • Mental-Motor development
    • Physiological characteristics of the newborn
    • Physical examination of the newborn
    • Resuscitation of the newborn
    • Respiratory failure and related diseases
    • Congestive heart failure and treatment
    • Cyanotic congenital heart disease
    • Convulsions
    • Coma, from symtopms to diagnosis
    • Hypotonic Infant
    • Acute gastroenteritis
    • Immunization
    • Abdominal pain
    • Tuberculosis and treatment
    • Malabsorption syndromes
    • Malnutrition
    • Recurrent lung infections, and cystic fibrosis
    • Neonatal hepatitides
    • Respiratory allergies
    • Pneumonia
    • Neonatal sepsis
    • Growth and sexual development in adolescent
    • Anemia
    • Bleeding diatheses
    • Clinical approach in growth retardation
    • Nutrition
    • Rickets
    • Diabetic ketoacidosis and treatment
    • Dehydration, fluid and electrolyte treatment
    • Lymphadenopathies
    • Ambiguous genitalia
    • Eruptive skin diseases
    • Allergic skin reactions
    • Food and drug allergies
    • Approach to the hypoglycemic child
    • The treatment of bronchial asthma
    • Metabolic disorders
    • Rational use of antibiotics in children
    • Ethical issues in pediatrics
    • Disorders of puberty
    • Acute rheumatic fever
    • Cellular immune deficiencies
    • Humoral immune deficiencies
    • Leukemia
    • Genetic counseling
    • Meningitis
    • Hemolytic anemias
    • Lymphomas
    • Wilms' tumor and neuroblastoma
    • Soft tissue tumors
    • Congenital hypothyroidism
    • Common problems in adolescence
    • Nephritic syndrome
    • Vasculitis
    • Diagnostic approaches to immune deficiencies
    • Panel about approach to the children with high blood pressure
    • Intrauterine infections
    • Viral hepatitis
    • Neonatal cholestasis
    • Childhood cirrhosis
    • Muscle diseases
    • Acyanotic congenital heart disease
    • Increased intracranial pressure syndrome
    • Post-infectious diseases
    • Childhood brain tumors
    • Approach to rheumatic diseases
    • Chromosomal disorders

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    Last edited by bidiboom; 11-30-2011 at 05:16 AM.

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    Obstetrics and Gynecology Rotation
    4th Year

    Subjects

    • Propaedeutic: Gynecology
    • Propaedeutic: Obstetrics
    • Abnormal uterine bleeding
    • Early pregnancy complications
    • Normal labor and delivery
    • Ectopic pregnancy
    • Pediatric and adolescent gynecology
    • Diabetes mellitus and pregnancy
    • Multiple gestations
    • Dystocia
    • High-risk pregnancies
    • Mullerian anomalies
    • Anovulation
    • Benign diseases of the vulva
    • Evaluation of infertile couples
    • Preinvasive cervical neoplasia
    • Perinatal infections
    • Vagina benign diseases
    • Obstetric ultrasound
    • Perinatal follow-up
    • Menopause and perimenopause
    • Epithelial ovarian tumors
    • Uterine cancer
    • Pelvic inflammatory disease
    • Vaginal Cancer
    • Cardiovascular diseases and pregnancy
    • Pelvic relaxation
    • Prenatal diagnosis
    • Benign diseases of the uterus, tubes and ovaries
    • Teratology
    • Operative birth
    • Induction of ovulation
    • Hirsutism
    • Perioperative Care
    • Pelvic pain and dysmenorrhea
    • Thrombophilia and Pregnancy
    • Amenorrhea
    • Germ cell tumors of the ovary
    • assisted reproductive techniques
    • Urogynecology
    • Gynecologic cancer screening
    • Vulvovaginitis
    • Vulvar cancer
    • Premature rupture of membranes and preterm delivery
    • Pregnancy and Cancer
    • Intrauterine growth restriction
    • Stromal & metastatic tumors of the ovary and tube cancers
    • Male infertility
    • Menstrual disorders
    • Hematologic diseases and pregnancy
    • Endometriosis
    • 3rd trimester bleeding
    • Postpartum hemorrhage
    • Postmenopausal hormone therapy
    • Recurrent pregnancy loss
    • Rh isoimmunization
    • Assessment of fetal well-being
    • The basic principles of obstetric anesthesia

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    Last edited by bidiboom; 11-30-2011 at 05:16 AM.

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    General Surgery Rotation
    4th Year

    Subjects

    • The history and principles of general surgery
    • History taking and physical examination
    • Acute abdomen
    • Transplantation
    • Nutritional support in surgical patients
    • Preoperative evaluation and postoperative care
    • Peritonitis and intra-abdominal infections
    • Surgical anatomy of the gastrointestinal system I
    • Endocrine and metabolic response in trauma
    • Acquired heart disease
    • General principles of anesthesia
    • Principles of regional anesthesia
    • Cardiopulmonary resuscitation
    • Surgical infections and principles of antibiotic use
    • Regional periampullary tumors
    • Stomach tumors
    • Septic shock
    • Hypovolemic shock
    • Wound healing
    • Congenital heart disease
    • Burns
    • Colon and rectal diseases
    • Liver tumors
    • Fluid electrolyte treatment
    • Cystic diseases of the liver
    • Melanoma and soft tissue tumors
    • Surgery complications
    • Breast cancer radiotherapy
    • GIT cancer radiotherapy
    • Benign perianal diseases
    • Hemostasis and transfusion
    • Venous system diseases
    • Acute pancreatitis
    • Abdominal wall hernias
    • Parathyroid diseases
    • Principles of approach to trauma
    • Abdominal trauma
    • Upper gastrointestinal bleeding
    • Lower gastrointestinal bleeding
    • Motility disorders of esophagus
    • Esophageal tumors
    • Gallbladder and biliary system disorders
    • Surgical ethics
    • Thorax diseases
    • Peripheral vascular diseases
    • Diseases of appendix
    • Radiology in general surgery
    • Intestinal obstruction
    • Thyroid disease
    • Diseases of adrenal glands
    • GIT physiology: Surgical Perspective
    • Breast diseases

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    Medical Pharmacology Rotation
    4th Year

    Subjects

    There is no detail about it.

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    The subject listing is the same as ours. By detail the subjects are fairly comprehensive. However, the problem comes with the quality of professor that you have each day who will be teaching that subject. That's when you will know.
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    I hustled, bustled, struggled in everyway and couldnt create a common ground to evaluate those profs and the rotations.

    Actually still it is possible to gather some info about those rotations and have an idea about the schools: Say for instance, in one school if you see a COLD case all along your rotation only once, and in another say for instance a couple of times every week, it gives a pretty much idea. Imagine all those data gathered and listed, how many cases you see, in how many of them a prof attends and teachs, in how many an assistant attends, how much time you can spare for every case, in which points you can be active, how much you can communicate...

    You became oldies in early ages guys This medicine thing got you old prematurely You dont have energy to do that and find a way out

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    It doesn't work that simply, though, bidiboom.

    The cases that you will see will often be different than those your fellow classmates will see in another month... even if they are taking the same rotation, at the same clinic, with the same attendings and professors. The simple fact is that you have no control over which patients come through a ward... if you are on an infectious disease rotation, for example, can you absolutely guarantee that someone will come through the clinic with a specific infection? Nope, you can't. You have a set period of time there, and you see what the patients present with while you are there. You will have a lecture on the diseases, of course, but you can't predict what diseases will come through the door for actual clinical exposure.

    (That is partly why, when some rare pathology comes through the door, the good attendings are excited and want the students to come see the case immediately! It's much different seeing a disease presentation in real life than it is seeing it on a Powerpoint presentation.)

    It simply isn't possible to see everything over the course of a clinical rotation. You need to learn it all, yeah, but you aren't going to see it all. That's the case even at a large, university hospital... and you will see a wider array of diseases there than in most places.

    Your point about posting the quality/availability of attendings and other faculty is good, though of course that can vary considerably even within the same department.

    (Oh, and was that an AGE joke, bidiboom?! Hey, I may be an old fart, but I've got plenty of energy... my daughters keep me young. Usually.)
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    Actually you're right. Though its a good idea to gather detailed data, even if it doesnt provide precise info, still it works to make a comparison between schools, but I see that its not a volunteer forum work since we cant get together around such stuff . You must get in the IT systems of the hospitals, suck their data and create another database.. Actually not impossible, and I believe someday there will be such a common ground open to everybody. Only we must demand it.

    And as for your age, I love this style, man I didnt mean you were an old.. well.. uhumm.. old gas and I have never felt any wee bit oldie tone in your voice.. mature but absolutely not old.. but I think you're right, as a whole family you must have a closed circuit energy system the enegy of happiness is passing from one to the other and nobody loses even one single electron! Even I feel good and thankful to God for that

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