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    czech vs hungary?

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    Hello all,

    I'm an American and have been doing research on attending an EE medical school, namely Semmelweis in Budapest or First Faculty of Medicine in Prague. My concern is the language barrier that I will have to overcome to be successful. I've heard that hungarian is significantly more difficult than czech, is there any truth in that? I would also appreciate any other significant features in these programs that I should compare.

    Thank You

    PJ

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    very similar...

    well, i can only answer the czech half of the question...as for significant advantage for one over the other, i really don't think there is one. i do know that czech is difficult, but not as difficult as i was lead to believe. it is latin based, and you can learn it while you are studying medicine.

    if you are commited to attending one of these schools, i really think that personal issues such as cost, what city you prefer to live in, etc...are going to be the deciding factors. let me know if you have any specific questions and i am happy to help.

    perhaps miklos can give a better idea on the hungarian language, and bring up some positives or negatives that i don't know about.

    good luck!

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    Differences

    Czech is far closer to English, as it is a Western Slavic Indo European language and thereby a distant relative. (English is a Germanic Indo European language)

    Hungarian is a Finno-Ugric language (not on the same tree as English), whose closest cousins spoken by a large number of people are Estonian and Finnish, though only a few very basic words bear any similarity to each other. Interestingly, Hungarian contains many loan words from Slavic languages, especially the Slovak language (which is mutually understandable with the Czech language).

    Both languages use latin characters and use them far more efficiently than English, as both are (for the most part) phonetic languages (spelling bees don't exist in this part of the world, for this reason: if you can pronounce the word and know the alphabet, you can spell it; no need for memorization). In Hungarian, each sound has its own letter. Some of those sounds are quite foreign to English ears, especially some of the vowels.

    What strikes me about the Czech written language is that it appears vowel poor at first glance. However, I have been told that this isn't necessarily the case, as each consonant is pronounced the same way, thereby including a short vowel sound with almost all consonants.

    As far as grammar goes, I would be willing to bet that Hungarian is more difficult as it includes noun, verb, adverb, adjective, case, tense in word endings. In this way, it is a very foreign grammar for English speakers, who are used to subject verb object structure. Does this mean that it cannot be learned?

    No, but it requires motivation from the individual. Several of my classmates came here and now speak it quite well. IMHO, it also depends on how well you integrate with the surrounding community. Those living in "linguistic ghettos" like some of my Norwegian classmates, speak very little Hungarian.

    As far as the cities are concerned, I think that this is a matter of personal taste. Visit both and then decide.

    For my opinion on Hungarian med schools, especially Semmelweis, their positives and negatives, I suggest that you do a search with the keyword
    Budapest on this forum.

    Good luck.

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    First faculty or second in prague

    Hi

    I want to apply to study medicne in prague. I am a UK citizen.

    cOuld you advise me which faculty the first or second i shoul dapply and what diference is there between the two like teh clinical exposure and recognition and the diferences bwtween teh faculties, ragards..


    Also my email address is muzaffer42@hotmail.com. You can also email me thanks.

    DO you also know what medical school in eastern europe is best to apply to?

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    best?

    there is no huge difference between the two faculties. second faculty used to be for pediatrics, but now it is a general medical school. i have a few freinds from there, and they are doing well, getting a good education. first faculty is where i go, and i am quite happy here. our campus is in the center of prague, and is generally the most "prestigious" faculty, but in reality that doesn't mean much.

    so, as far as the two in prague are concerned, there is no huge difference for a UK citizen. for an american, or somebody working in america, first faculty is quite a bit better for a few reasons: Ca approval, more american students=more familiarity with the process, etc...

    as for best school in EE, that is an impossible question to answer. there are many that can help you achieve your goals. i love my school, but it certainly is not for everyone. and there are many schools that i would never go to that have students that are very happy and successful. it is important that you find the best fit for you and your future goals.

    best of luck

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    Agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by neilc
    as for best school in EE, that is an impossible question to answer. there are many that can help you achieve your goals. i love my school, but it certainly is not for everyone. and there are many schools that i would never go to that have students that are very happy and successful. it is important that you find the best fit for you and your future goals.

    best of luck
    IMHO, the only way to find out is to visit the school(s) in person and check them out. Keep in mind that you'll be spending lots of time, money, blood, sweat and tears getting your diploma.

    Make a choice that is worthwhile for you.

    Miklos

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    Problem-oriented learning vs. traditional preclinic-clinic

    Any comments on pros and cons of the two??

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    Miklos is offline Elite Member 511 points
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    Problem-oriented learning vs. traditional preclinic-clinic

    Quote Originally Posted by 50 ěre
    Any comments on pros and cons of the two??
    If I had my choice, I would go for problem based learning, no question about it. But, again, this is a matter of personal taste.

    IMO, the reason that most of Europe is stuck on the traditional curriculum is that it is much easier for the professors. They lecture whatever they want and the students act like sponges. Then, come exam time, the student reguritates the info and the professor is happy and passes the student.

    I think that the problem based learning approach requires greater commitment from both student and teacher, but I think that it is far more interesting and more challenging.

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    czech vs hungary?

    Quote Originally Posted by paulja
    Hello all,

    I'm an American and have been doing research on attending an EE medical school, namely Semmelweis in Budapest or First Faculty of Medicine in Prague. My concern is the language barrier that I will have to overcome to be successful. I've heard that hungarian is significantly more difficult than czech, is there any truth in that? I would also appreciate any other significant features in these programs that I should compare.

    Thank You

    PJ
    Have you consider Mexico and central and south America?

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    czech vs hungary?

    Quote Originally Posted by paulja
    Hello all,

    I'm an American and have been doing research on attending an EE medical school, namely Semmelweis in Budapest or First Faculty of Medicine in Prague. My concern is the language barrier that I will have to overcome to be successful. I've heard that hungarian is significantly more difficult than czech, is there any truth in that? I would also appreciate any other significant features in these programs that I should compare.

    Thank You

    PJ
    Both schools are good. I think the cities are also important. You have to visit both cities and pick the one you like best. You can your rotations in the US, right?

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