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    Russia,Romania or Bulgaria ?

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    hello friends
    i have very limited budget...hence i have decided to study in some cheap medical programmes in east europe......as i went through the net i found that i can afford only a 3 countries viz 1 Russia 2 Romania and
    3 Bulgaria

    can anyone please suggest me which country among Russia Romania and Bulgaria will be the best to study Medicine........i emphasize upon quality of education

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    Russia,Romania or Bulgaria ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimndella
    hello friends
    i have very limited budget...hence i have decided to study in some cheap medical programmes in east europe......as i went through the net i found that i can afford only a 3 countries viz 1 Russia 2 Romania and
    3 Bulgaria

    can anyone please suggest me which country among Russia Romania and Bulgaria will be the best to study Medicine........i emphasize upon quality of education
    I recommend none of the above, unless you speak one of those languages and study in the local language programs.

    Re: finances. If you are a US citizen (and meet certain requirements), you have access to Stafford loans that can finance your education at one of the California approved English programs.

    Before you decide, I would recommend investing the money to check the place out as only first hand info really counts.

    Good luck.

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    my god

    I know nothing about the programs in any of the countries - let's start with that. I think there is one guy on this forum that knows something about Russia. Maybe do a search.

    My opinion: Russia.
    Why? Most people (Americans) have heard of the place and more educated people might acknowledge they have a strong history of have solid math and science programs.

    I would really look at loans. Even if you could pay $8,000 - $10,000 USD you would be in the arena of Prague, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland. Still east but not so 'out there.'

    I also have a good friend from Bucharest in Romania. She is one of the brightest people I know. She's now doing derivatives in Toronto. It is a beautiful city and likely fine.

    I think generally Westerners still suffer a prejudice about the 'East' - natural. But I would argue that academics are solid. Main problems will be with administration, visas, paperwork, health insurance, and if you have a problem. Bribery is rampant everywhere in the East. If you come from a culture that bribery is ok, then maybe it won't bother you much.

    My life is hell sometimes because I won't have over the envelope. Poor Canadians eh? I do, however, sometimes buy good bottles of whisky AFTER something has been achieved.

    Good luck with your choice and I admire your courage and passion for pursuing this pathway.

    S-

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    thanks

    thank u miklos n pracefuljourney

    for ur opinions
    ...............miklos i understaand ur point unless i understand the native language any place ll b a problem for me but again the these three countries there are some english medium programmes...though they are not Cali recognised...i ll have to try my luck in these cheper ones...i know i was not born with a golden spoon (n i m not sad for it) now it is me alone who can help myself....lets hope for a brighter future....

    peacefuljourney
    thanks for ur opinion even i had Russia as my first choice because we have atleast heard of some standard colleges from Russia...i heard St Petersburg and Moscow haas some stndard colleges if not the best.....how ever which college in Russia do u recommend?
    i m not a US or Canadian citizen.....i earned some money after doing my graduation n now i am in a position to spend 6000$- 7000$ peryear for my expenses - thus poland hungary n the rest are out of question

    please if u can give me your comments that will help me in my struggle for exsistance as i call it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimndella
    thank u miklos n pracefuljourney

    for ur opinions
    ...............miklos i understaand ur point unless i understand the native language any place ll b a problem for me but again the these three countries there are some english medium programmes...though they are not Cali recognised...i ll have to try my luck in these cheper ones...i know i was not born with a golden spoon (n i m not sad for it) now it is me alone who can help myself....lets hope for a brighter future....

    peacefuljourney
    thanks for ur opinion even i had Russia as my first choice because we have atleast heard of some standard colleges from Russia...i heard St Petersburg and Moscow haas some stndard colleges if not the best.....how ever which college in Russia do u recommend?
    i m not a US or Canadian citizen.....i earned some money after doing my graduation n now i am in a position to spend 6000$- 7000$ peryear for my expenses - thus poland hungary n the rest are out of question

    please if u can give me your comments that will help me in my struggle for exsistance as i call it.....
    There is one plus for Romania over the other two unless you speak a Slavic language; Romanian is the closest of the three languages to English.

    One, it has a latin alphabet (Bulgarian and Russian use the Cyrillic) ; Two, it belongs to the group of Latin languages. The English language is highly influenced by Latin directly and indirectly (via Norman French). It is my opinion that an English speaker would have less trouble picking up Romanian than the other two. That and my personal opinion is that Romanians in general have an easier time learning English than the Bulgarians and Russians for the same reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peacefuljourney
    I think generally Westerners still suffer a prejudice about the 'East' - natural. But I would argue that academics are solid. Main problems will be with administration, visas, paperwork, health insurance, and if you have a problem. Bribery is rampant everywhere in the East. If you come from a culture that bribery is ok, then maybe it won't bother you much.

    My life is hell sometimes because I won't have over the envelope. Poor Canadians eh? I do, however, sometimes buy good bottles of whisky AFTER something has been achieved.
    Yeah, I'm familiar with that problem. I hate the concept of handing over the envelope...

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    Hi.

    I don't know any programs in Russia and can't advise or even comment on one vs. the other. Look around in this section though, I know there are a couple of guys who study there. I think there is even a school official that visits and contributes to the site.

    I have heard from very well travelled people that St. Petersburg is stunning. But this is not a sight seeing excursion, you're trying to learn medicine.

    Good luck. S-

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    try bulgaria or croatia

    hi
    i'm studying in ukraine , and have met people from all the countries you mentioned ( and more) .
    if these 3 are your only choice , then bulgaria , is the best bet .
    the univ in sofia , is what i would recomend, actually apart from romania , all these countries after poland etc are pretty much the same , but the only difference withbulgaria is that by 2007 they'll be joining the EU , which would give you a huge advantage when you graduate,
    also the cardiology centre in sofia is one of the best hospitals i've ever seen .
    you could also consider the baltics like lithuania, estonia and latvia .
    andthere's another possibilty , in going to zagreb in croatia, where the english program which will start this year, will be one of the best acedemically , cos as far as i know the whole program was designed by harvard medical consultants, and is completely geared up for the USMLE, more so than the other programs in eastern europe.
    so best of luck
    and happy hunting

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlandpoet
    hi
    i'm studying in ukraine , and have met people from all the countries you mentioned ( and more) .
    if these 3 are your only choice , then bulgaria , is the best bet .
    the univ in sofia , is what i would recomend, actually apart from romania , all these countries after poland etc are pretty much the same , but the only difference withbulgaria is that by 2007 they'll be joining the EU , which would give you a huge advantage when you graduate,
    also the cardiology centre in sofia is one of the best hospitals i've ever seen .
    you could also consider the baltics like lithuania, estonia and latvia .
    andthere's another possibilty , in going to zagreb in croatia, where the english program which will start this year, will be one of the best acedemically , cos as far as i know the whole program was designed by harvard medical consultants, and is completely geared up for the USMLE, more so than the other programs in eastern europe.
    so best of luck
    and happy hunting
    Re: EU accession.

    Both Bulgaria and Romania have a tenative date to join the EU in 2007. At this point, I personally, would not bet on that happening on time. Why?

    -The EU has decided for a regatta approach to the Balkans (e.g. they will admit countries when they are ready, not in the current big bang fashion). This means that each candidate country needs to get its stuff done and cannot count on a set time period. (Having seen Hungary promised EU accession for at least the last ten years, I will not believe it until I see it.)

    -The EU will have a significant problem absorbing most of the 10 ascendant countries. The budget battle for 2006 is likely to be bruising affair. Recently, Poland (and Spain) nixed the proposed EU constitution as they (rightly so) feared dilution of their overly generous voting rights within the EU. The southern countries (Greece, Spain, Portugal, etc.)which traditionally have been net beneficiaries of EU aid will fight tooth and nail against the new comers for the share of the pie. In addition, the German tax payer is getting tired of paying for it all.

    Therefore, I predict a deadlock that will delay further EU expansion after this round.

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    ya i understand

    peaceful journey,miklos,highlandpoet
    thanks a lot for ur suggestions......
    Miklos Romania on the basis of language will b a good bet but i have heard that in any europian country u can easyly learn the local language for conversation in three years so will i face any language problems in my study in case i study in a good english medium project....
    acctually i keep romania in as my second choice because i have heard there is a lot of corruption in Romania.....same is the case of Russia on the basis of corruption but as i go through the net i see that russia is gradually improving economically...romania on that basis is far behind...so there is scope for some improvements in future......yesterday i joined a some yahoo groups to get in touch with the students studing in Russia romania n bulgaria...there i found students from romania badly complaining about the medical studies out there...they spoke about corruption ,bunking of classes by the teachers ,local attacks for money,backdated equipments , bribes by professors for credits even found that a normal person can become aa professor by a simple bribe of 5000$ ....on the other hand the Russian students had complains against mainly 3 aspects
    1 attacks by the racists ...mainly students from moscow
    2 problem with the private agents
    3 corruption in getting quick visas and other official procedures

    i found there almost all students from st petersburg n moscow agreed upon the point that the studies, facilities in their academies, were ok
    they highly prased the quality of their professors

    thats why i have 2 colleges in my mind
    1 st petersburg state medical university named after IP Pavlov
    2 Moscow state medical academy

    however if u have info about some good romanian(with english medium) college please give me the name of the said college


    by the way do u have iny info about how a person who have graduated from a non EU country can practice in a EU country?

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