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    rockofapathy is offline Newbie 510 points
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    Hi everyone,
    I've been reading that the medical school in Poznan is not approved for California liscensure. The medical board of california 'recognizes' the school, though. Are these two different things? Thanks,
    -Wes

    http://www.medbd.ca.gov/Applicant_Sc...Recognized.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockofapathy
    Hi everyone,
    I've been reading that the medical school in Poznan is not approved for California liscensure. The medical board of california 'recognizes' the school, though. Are these two different things? Thanks,
    -Wes

    http://www.medbd.ca.gov/Applicant_Sc...Recognized.htm
    The native (Polish language) program is recognized automatically on a per country basis. The English language program needs to apply to become recognized. See listings on that same page for Hungary.
    Last edited by Miklos; 03-21-2006 at 04:00 AM.

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    rockofapathy is offline Newbie 510 points
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    Hi,
    I was reading from a third party web site that graduates from 'Karol
    Marcinkowski University of Medical Sciences in Poznan' (Poland) are not
    eligible for a California medical license. The California medical board
    web site, however,
    (http://www.medbd.ca.gov/Applicant_Sc...cognized.htm#P) shows that it
    is 'recognized.' Does that mean the graduates from the school can
    potentially practice medicine in California?

    Thanks for your help






    No, it does not. The Karol Marcinkowski school recognized by the Medical Board of California is the 6-year Polish-language medical program intended for Polish citizens. The English program that this school opened is NOT recognized by the California Board. No English programs in Poland are recognized at this time.

    California law prohibits students and graduates from unrecognized or disapproved medical schools from training in or becoming licensed in California. If you're hoping to train in and practice in California, you must attend a school or schools that the California Board recognizes today.

    If you're interested in Eastern European schools, the California Board recognizes these 5 English programs: Semmelweis University, Szeged University, Debrecen University, Pecs University (all in Hungary), and Charles University First Faculty of Medicine in Prague, Czechoslovakia.

    If you're interested in the Caribbean area, the California Board recognizes these schools, all of which teach in English: American University of the Caribbean, Ross University, St. George's University, University of the West Indies and Saba University.

    Please contact me again if you have other questions about foreign medical schools.

    Pat Park, Foreign Schools Liaison, Medical Board of California

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    However, Poznan is approved in other states. Correct?

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    Other states generally doesn't have specific "approved/disapproved" lists like California does, so it would be the medical licensing board in each state which at the end of the day would grant or deny license.

    BTW: Just as an entertaining aside, it's impressive that California approves a school (First Faculty in Prague) from a nonexisting country (the Czech Republic and Slovakia split up in 1993)....

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    just goes to show how unfair and antiquated the ca medicla board is... czechoslovakia, ha!

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    Hi,

    From what I know none of the English teaching schools in Poland are accredited in California. I have been doing a lot of research on this issue and from talking with the board in CA. The schools must request a review process, with a lot of paper work. Then the board sees if everything is in order. They may also request to visit the school and check out the program. Though this is the catch, because the cost of their visit and flight must be covered by the school. And they usually send a couple people. So for many school that gets expensive. Me and a couple of students in warsaw are currently working on this issue. There are about 10 of us from CA here,and with other students we have written a petition to have this process started.

    The other problem is that if in the future a school gets accredited by the CA board, the accreditation is not retrospective. This means that you have to get your diploma from the school after it is accredited not before.

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    It seems that California basically have to pathways to its approved list:

    A) Foreign medical schools established and engaged in training the country's own nationals to become physicians, due to the reasonable assumption that the country in question would have a self-interest in ensuring a reasonable standard of training, which, combined with a passing USMLE score and a ACFMG-certified US/Canadian residency program is adequant to ensure physicians with qualifications comparable to US trained docs.

    B) Site visits and specific approvals of schools and/or programs specifically or mainly designed to train people to work in the US, or in a country outside the country of training. Again under the reasonable assumption that the charter country wouldn't necessarily be heavily involved in ensuring the quality of training.

    In the past, it was sufficient that the school was listed in the WHO directory, due to the fact that virtually all schools belonged to the A) category. However, today, where you have tiny nations like St. Kitt's chartering six or more medical schools, in order to directly or indirectly generate money, and not to provide medical service for the population, an added layer of approval is needed to ensure adequate quality. Hence the California list.

    Due to the fact that the Polish and other EE English-language USMLE-based four-year programs are not only different from the national local-language programs, but also mainly geared towards those who seek to work in the US, they fall under category B), and would thus need specific approval. Conversely, if you chose to go to a traditional Polish or other EE program, you would have no problem getting a license in California.

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    From what I saw on these boards, the application process in Poznan has been going at least 3 years. So, I would conclude it won't happen any time soon. Not to offend anyone, but without that liscensing, it would be foolish for anyone who wants to practice in the states to go there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockofapathy
    From what I saw on these boards, the application process in Poznan has been going at least 3 years. So, I would conclude it won't happen any time soon.
    That brings up a very good question:

    What is the status of Poznan's application?

    Does anyone know?

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