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    How best to study for the Jagiellonian entrance exam and what did/would you do?

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    Hi There Everyone,

    I'm looking to apply to Jag's 6 year program. I want to start studying for the entrance exam. Besides doing the 2 practice tests online, what else should I study from?

    Are there any study material you can suggest?

    I heard that that there are study aids that Jag gives to students to use in preparation for the exam. Is this true?

    Any insight or advice will be greatly appreciated.


    Thank you,
    Mike B

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    Mike hi, SAT subject tests prepared me very well, but SAT Chemistry includes only general chem, so there is a need for organic chem as well. Years ago I have used John McMurry's Organic Chemistry.

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    hey..from what ive read you get the study aid once you apply..so did u apply yet???im gonna sending my app this week too and wll hopefully get the syllabus soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by bidiboom View Post
    Mike hi, SAT subject tests prepared me very well, but SAT Chemistry includes only general chem, so there is a need for organic chem as well. Years ago I have used John McMurry's Organic Chemistry.
    Hi Bidiboom,

    You are a super member on this site! All your posts are super informative !

    Did you take the Jagiellonian entrance exam? Where did you get your sat subject tests? How many did you do? How much time have you spent studying for this exam? I've heard that they send you out a study guide. Do you know anything about this or how useful it may be?


    Quote Originally Posted by candycane View Post
    hey..from what ive read you get the study aid once you apply..so did u apply yet???im gonna sending my app this week too and wll hopefully get the syllabus soon
    Hi Candycane,

    I haven't applied just yet. Where will you be studying from? Where and when will you be taking your exam?


    Thanks guys,
    Mike B

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    Hi!
    Judging from the sample questions, it's seems like the A Level books I'm using at school now should cover most of the stuff but ill know more once I get the aid.
    I want to give the exam on 4th june in Krakow. But idk.coz on the site it says that in Kraków its for applicants from Scandinavia. Altho they haven't give any other dates either....but if 4th is available ill go for it.hbu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LexusLsPro View Post
    Hi Bidiboom,

    You are a super member on this site! All your posts are super informative !

    Did you take the Jagiellonian entrance exam? Where did you get your sat subject tests? How many did you do? How much time have you spent studying for this exam? I've heard that they send you out a study guide. Do you know anything about this or how useful it may be?
    Wow, thats a super compliment, thanks! But actually I am super ignorant at some points as well. And some of my comments were about the things I learned on my way, but later come not true. Regarding that even I myself write some wrong things, I prefer to read the forum posts with a grain of salt, generally speaking

    As for how I prepared: I prepared for and took the SAT subject tests both in chem and bio. I went to a bookstore and bought SAT-chem and SAT-bio prep books (the ones circulation in the market, Kaplan, Barrons, Princeton Review) and studied at home with my own pace. I planned my own test dates, I preferred to prepare and take them not altogether, but one by one. The scores would be important for me in future because, and I wanted to focus on them. But in any case I needed the textbooks and I have already had them. I made one thing certain: During the study, after every single test, I checked the questions I was wrong, turned back to the relevant chapters in both SAT prep and textbooks, and learned what and why the answers were different than what I know.
    How much I prepared for them? Well, I already had a base with another self study years ago, so this study was rather a refreshing. For each I spared appr. 1-1,5 months.

    But for Organic chem I still need to refresh myself, SAT doesnt cover organic because, but Jag.'s entrance exam test do. By the way I didnt take the test of Jag. yet Good luck to you youngsters..

    Quote Originally Posted by candycane View Post
    ...but ill know more once I get the aid...
    What is that aid Candy? I havent seen any such thing in anywhere I would like to know about it too.

    ...I want to give the exam on 4th june in Krakow. But idk.coz on the site it says that in Kraków its for applicants from Scandinavia. Altho they haven't give any other dates either....but if 4th is available ill go for it...
    May I ask is it stated clearly as for Scandinavians specifically? I dont think so, I saw here the dates, but as far as I can see, they are for all everybody:
    School of Medicine in English

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    Quote Originally Posted by candycane View Post
    Hi!
    Judging from the sample questions, it's seems like the A Level books I'm using at school now should cover most of the stuff but ill know more once I get the aid.
    I want to give the exam on 4th june in Krakow. But idk.coz on the site it says that in Kraków its for applicants from Scandinavia. Altho they haven't give any other dates either....but if 4th is available ill go for it.hbu?
    Hi Candycane,

    I'm years out of high school so I will need to undergo super refreshing of high school material, I think.

    Are you applying to any other schools? I take it you are coming straight from high school? What city are you from?

    Quote Originally Posted by bidiboom View Post
    Wow, thats a super compliment, thanks! But actually I am super ignorant at some points as well. And some of my comments were about the things I learned on my way, but later come not true. Regarding that even I myself write some wrong things, I prefer to read the forum posts with a grain of salt, generally speaking

    As for how I prepared: I prepared for and took the SAT subject tests both in chem and bio. I went to a bookstore and bought SAT-chem and SAT-bio prep books (the ones circulation in the market, Kaplan, Barrons, Princeton Review) and studied at home with my own pace. I planned my own test dates, I preferred to prepare and take them not altogether, but one by one. The scores would be important for me in future because, and I wanted to focus on them. But in any case I needed the textbooks and I have already had them. I made one thing certain: During the study, after every single test, I checked the questions I was wrong, turned back to the relevant chapters in both SAT prep and textbooks, and learned what and why the answers were different than what I know.
    How much I prepared for them? Well, I already had a base with another self study years ago, so this study was rather a refreshing. For each I spared appr. 1-1,5 months.

    But for Organic chem I still need to refresh myself, SAT doesnt cover organic because, but Jag.'s entrance exam test do. By the way I didnt take the test of Jag. yet Good luck to you youngsters..



    What is that aid Candy? I havent seen any such thing in anywhere I would like to know about it too.



    May I ask is it stated clearly as for Scandinavians specifically? I dont think so, I saw here the dates, but as far as I can see, they are for all everybody:
    School of Medicine in English
    Bidiboom LOL! A grain of salt with anything except food is always good , too much salt will raise your bloodpressure !

    You actually took the SAT exams? Why?
    Do those books you mentioned actually teach or do they mostly quiz you?
    You actually have those books in Turkey?

    If I take the exam and score poorly can I retake it? How many times is one allowed to retake it?

    Do you think it is possible to study those books you mentioned day and night and absorb all the info in 2 months or less if I am not working and just literally studying day and night?

    Thanks buddy,
    Mike B

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    ... You actually took the SAT exams? Why?...
    Because I am an oldie haha I graduated from high school in 1985, and I couldnt even go to school in last two years of it then. I took only the finals, so the school doesnt give me transcript, understandably. Later I had associates degree equivalent here in software development and got in professional life. At short my background in natural sciences and math was very old and weak. So I needed both to refresh and develop myself in those fields, and to convert my effort to a concrete data, as a worldwide recognized test score.

    ... Do those books you mentioned actually teach or do they mostly quiz you?...
    Five years ago I have bought some US textbooks here and studied chem and bio in English. So they taught a lot. This year I decided to convert those studies to test scores and this time I bought SAT preparation books. They are skimming the relevant and most useful/important parts and also prepares you for a specific test format, SAT. You know, every test has its own style, those books are rather style-oriented and their first concern is to prepare for SATs, not to teach something. But you learn from them too, albeit its not the goal.

    The benefit of textbooks is to prepare/refresh the background. The benefits of SAT prep books is to re-refresh and more than that, to prepare you to multiple-choice tests. After SAT, Jagiellonians sample test was a piece of cake! Actually because of this reason I would take SATs as the guideline for a preparation study for a test like Jag's, because IF you solve all of the multiple-choice questions in those books (by turning back to the ones you couldnt solve, and reading and understanding thoroughly and really the relevant chapters in the textbooks), then you actually prpeare for Jag.s test as well. At least thats what happened in my case.

    ... You actually have those books in Turkey?...
    No Mike, they were all US-based books

    The textbooks I used:
    Biology - Campbell & Reece - 8th Ed.
    Molecular Biology of The Cell - Alberts - 4th Ed.
    Chemistry - Brown, LeMay, Bursten - 10th Ed.
    Organic Chemistry - John McMurry - 6th Ed.
    College Physics - Knight, Jones, Field - 2nd Ed. (I didnt study physics yet, I need to start from scratch , so I cant say a word about the quality of the book, but its used here in private high schools with English curricula)

    The SAT prep books (in the order of content quality):
    SAT Subject Tests - College Board 2nd Ed. (Its the most realistic test book since its prepared by College Board, the organization who holds SAT tests, but it doesnt include explanations on subjects, it includes only 1 test for every subject)
    Princeton Review (the most test-oriented and still extensive content)
    Kaplan (rather easier questions, but still useful, only in biology it took a step forward among others)
    Barrons (the most extensive one, but gets irrelevant as well, still useful for it prepares for tough/irrelevant questions)

    Besides over internet College Board's website includes sample test questions, though limited:
    SAT Subject Tests - Practice SAT Questions

    And Sparknotes, as well, is pretty useful with its sample tests:
    SparkNotes Test Prep: SAT Subject Tests Information Center

    ...If I take the exam and score poorly can I retake it? How many times is one allowed to retake it?...
    If you ask SAT, of course you can take. As for Jagiellonian, I dont know, but I have never seen any limitation about it. You must be able to, I presume.

    Hope this helps
    Last edited by bidiboom; 03-17-2012 at 06:51 PM.

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    hey.....Cześć

    bidiboom.....on the site it says...
    "After receiving application form and the registration fee from a Candidate, Biology and Chemistry Guides are sent via e-mail together with the registration form. The guides are designed to help one to prepare for the entrance exam." soo thts the aid

    and it also says "EXAMS are held in Krakow-Poland, Oslo-Norway (for candidates from Scandinavia), Chicago-USA, and Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia." but they have only given dates for krakow and chicago

    btw id love to know how u add those blue speech bubbles :P

    @lexuslspro.....im also applying to charles university - first faculty of medicine....as a back up ofc coz its exam takes place on 31st aug...till then i will know if i got in jag or not...you should check it out aswell..their application is very easy and you only need to fill it up and email it...no need to post any documents or pay any fee, yet....fee is paid on the day of the exam...
    yup i am comming straight from high school..
    if i may add a bit to tht book list...try getting

    Chemistry in Context - Graham Hill ,John Holman

    A-Level Chemistry - Eileen Ramsden ( i personally prefer this one.it has very detailed organic and inorganic chem)

    also try Edexcel AS Chemistry - Ann Fullick and its A level version too..this is the one we use at school...

    for bio

    AS/A level Biology (Cambridge International Examinations) - Richard Fosbery , Mary Jones
    this one's amazing and we use it at school..its simple and to the point plus easy to use....


    oh and bidiboom..y r u trying to learn Physics...i hate it!!! :P hahahha.... and im glad that the entrance exam for jag doesnt include it.....
    Last edited by candycane; 03-20-2012 at 06:04 AM.

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    Thank alot buddy for that detailed explanation! I will checkout all the books you've mentioned.


    I've sent Jag an email. Hopefully they will reply soon with regards to how many times the entrance exam can be taken.

    Physics is probably my worst subject.

    I wish you luck with it! When do you intend to apply to med school? Which ones?


    Mike B

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