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    cortex_london_uk is offline Member 510 points
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    A few simple/interesting questions...

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    Hello guys,

    I've been doing research into the application process for Medical education in Europe and I really like the Jag medical school ethos, history and reputation....having trawled their website...I'm still left wondering though....and so my questions are ...

    1) When doing the clinical rotations [year 3 and 4]...can we spend these 2 years in the UK rather than Poland?

    2) For year 3 & 4 is there a predefined curriculum with learning objectives clearly setup?

    I heard that with Carribbean med schools there are no real learning objectives and you only have to be "signed off" by a consultant after doing 20 months of rotations (scary!!) which they have to organise themselves ie the university has no links with UK hospitals. I wonder if Jag has links with UK teaching hospitals?..

    3) Are there exams for year 3 and 4 like with UK medical schools?

    4) What is the academic calendar for the 4 year MD? Ive searched the website but cannot find it. I wonder because I would like to fly back to UK during holidays..I have no idea when/how long the xmas/summer/easter holidays are

    5) When is the start date for 4year MD? Am I too late to apply now?

    Thank you to all who contribute to this post :-)
    Last edited by cortex_london_uk; 08-12-2010 at 10:52 AM.

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    Dave_MD is offline Member 515 points
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    1) All year III rotations are completed in Poland. It is in 4th year that you can do your rotations in places such as the US. I believe you can do them in the UK too but you would have to set them up yourself. I am not 100% sure of this however.

    2) not in clerkship yet, but from what ive heard some of the rotations are better than others but overall they do a good job of teaching you what you need to know.

    3) yes there are exams, including some US-curriculum based shelf exams, which are like USMLE tests for each rotation i.e neurology

    4) According to the 2010/2011 calendar, for this year the breaks are as follows:

    Christmas - Dec 18- Jan 9
    Winter - Feb 5 - Feb 20
    Easter - Apr 22 - May 4

    5) First day of classes is September 6...so yea it's a little late to apply. start prepping your stuff now so that when the app cycle opens again for next year then you can apply right away.
    Jagiellonian University Medical College
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    cortex_london_uk is offline Member 510 points
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    Hi Dave,
    Nice to meet you - sounds like you know a fair bit on the topic

    What kinda things will i need to prep?

    Im a UK citizen so i dont think i need to take an entrance exam like MCAT?

    Im bit gutted I cant apply though

    Q) which country r u a citizen of? Which country do you plan to work in post-graduation?...

    could you tell me the holiday dates for years 1 - 3? is there a website perhaps?
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    Dave did a pretty good job answering your questions. but perhaps I can help with question 3. As regards "learning objectives," I can say that yes, for the most part, they are in place. For example, for our Internal Medicine rotation, we are given a booklet with procedures that we should either witness or perform for each subspecialty (ie Stress Testing, Catheterization, or Tilt-Table for Cardiology, etc.). Other rotations are less organized but, as a rule, you get out of a clerkship only what you put into it, as with anything else in life.

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    cortex_london_uk is offline Member 510 points
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    Ok thank you both...


    Like almost everybody else, I also have some insecurities about post-graduation from EEA medical schools in terms of finding a job.

    To make it easier to answer, lets say that I graduate from Jag and I want to work in the United Kingdom. Would this be relatively straight-forward?

    My gut instinct tells me they will make it VERY hard for me to get a job, especially after the first 2 years (FY1 and FY2 - these are called 'internships' in the USA).

    What knowledge does anyone have on this? Please kindly share....

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    Dave_MD is offline Member 515 points
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    This is copy/pasted from a 4th year presentation we had regarding matching:

    UK Foundation Programme:

    http://www.foundationprogramme.nhs.uk
    Apply! It costs nothing, and it is a good back-up if you don’t get something in North America or if you want to strengthen your US/Canadian application
    Electives completed in the UK are not required
    If you plan to work in Poland, the Foundation Programme is highly regarded when applying for specialty training


    Timeline:
    July 19-August 20 (12 noon BST) 2010: Eligibility checking period
    October 4 2010: Applicants enroll online
    October 11-22 2010: Applicants complete the online application form
    December 8 2010: Application results available
    Make sure you contact the School Office early and obtain all required documents by the time you leave for electives.
    If you’re an EU citizen, you can compete in 1st round, otherwise you’ll need the PLAB (which is too much work), and you get to participate in 2nd round.
    You’re given a score based on your class rank, previous degree(s), research, publications, national presentations, and your answers to set questions (this counts for the majority of points). The overall score and your ranking of Deaneries (programs) determines where you’ll end up.
    10% of all questions are verified, so someone must prove your answers.
    Select Deaneries based on your future interests, competitiveness, cost of living.


    UK Residency…
    Is a LONG process
    While it’s a viable option/backup if you don’t match in Canada/US, it can be a headache to negotiate the system
    F1= your 1st foundation year- you rotate in 3 or 4 medical/surgical departments
    F2= 2nd intern year
    Specialty Training (here’s where it gets ugly!): Many people finish F-training but few get into specialty training! However, you can theoretically apply to any specialty you want!
    You can only work max 50h/week so the specialty training takes longer (2-3 years extra)
    If you finish Specialty Training, you must wait until a Consult of GP position opens up so you can be interviewed and assigned to it… until this time you basically work as a Senior resident indefinitely
    If you do take a position there, some say its best to do the full 2 years before coming to North America rather than leaving halfway through
    Canada also accepts transfers of specialists- it’s a long process but you could be certified to work in Canada
    Jagiellonian University Medical College
    MD Class of 2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_MD View Post
    This is copy/pasted from a 4th year presentation we had regarding matching:


    UK Residency…

    If you do take a position there, some say its best to do the full 2 years before coming to North America rather than leaving halfway through
    Canada also accepts transfers of specialists- it’s a long process but you could be certified to work in Canada

    Hi DaveMD
    what do the above statements mean? Is it easy to get back to NA if you specialize in the UK? ( i don't know too much about the UK system... and i have never heard of this)
    I know if you do your family med residency in australia you can easily come back to canada to practice... but that's because the systems are so similar...

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