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    UJ vs SGU

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    Which medical school is more respected in the US when applying for internal medicine residency, Jagiellonian University Medical College, or St George's University School of Medicine?

    Jagiellonian is cheaper then SGU, and is in a nicer area, but your clinicals in SGU are done in the US, and you don't have to learn Polish.

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    Do people really go to these schools and learn a new language while learning medicine. It seems impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trillium View Post
    Do people really go to these schools and learn a new language while learning medicine. It seems impossible.
    Well, yes, but the attendings can translate for you. So you don't have to be fluent. Just pass the courses.

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    as long as your school isn't in the continental USA it really doesn't matter which school you go to. both schools have good match rates. SGU posts theirs, Jag does not. However I can say I know graduates from Jag that have matched into specialties such as Neurology, Cardiology, Orthopedic Surgery and Psychiatry. It is not so much which school you go to, rather it is your USMLE Step 1 Score, clerkship experience and reference letters that will determine how well you stand in the Match.

    Also Jag allows for clinical rotations in the USA as well at well respected institutions (UCLA and Rochester for example).

    and regarding the Polish course...it's not like you need to learn the language inside and out, just some things that make life in Krakow and in the hospital easier. Also a good chunk of the class has some polish heritage so that helps too i guess.

    also think about class size. my class is 30 people. SGU's MS1 class is 550.

    and grenada is third world (sorry to anyone from SGU) compared to krakow. and ive been to grenada a few times, so i'm not talking out my *** here either.

    my 2 cents, take it for what it's worth...but i'm glad i came to jag.
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    FWIW, I'd choose Jag.

    But then, I came to Europe (albeit not Krakow) and my opinion is not exactly impartial.

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    Oh, I see, so all classes are taught in english.

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    In the English programs in E-Eu, the classroom courses are in English (except for the language classes, of course). By the time you get to clinicals you should speak enough general medical Language-X that you can understand what is going on, but the attendings speak English to help you understand if needed.

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    Anyone who chooses a polish school over SGU hasent done enough research. SGU is a better academic institution. I have rotated with grads of JU, they talk about the rampant cheating, the many students who cant pass the USMLE, rotations only available in lousy hospitals, etc. The polish school cater to the indian community, advertising heavily in ethnic newspapers to people who dont know any better, but are dying for their kid to be a doctor. Please, for your own sake, go to SGU. Better grads, in better residencies, waaaay more respect. Ross, SGU, Saba, and AUC are all infinitely better choices. Not to mention that polish schools have licensing issues with some states. If you dont believe me, I encourage you to do your due dilligence and find out for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finishingfifth View Post
    Anyone who chooses a polish school over SGU hasent done enough research. SGU is a better academic institution. I have rotated with grads of JU, they talk about the rampant cheating, the many students who cant pass the USMLE, rotations only available in lousy hospitals, etc. The polish school cater to the indian community, advertising heavily in ethnic newspapers to people who dont know any better, but are dying for their kid to be a doctor. Please, for your own sake, go to SGU. Better grads, in better residencies, waaaay more respect. Ross, SGU, Saba, and AUC are all infinitely better choices. Not to mention that polish schools have licensing issues with some states. If you dont believe me, I encourage you to do your due dilligence and find out for yourself.
    Just as every Carib school is not created equal, neither are the English programs at the numerous Polish schools. Same goes for "licensing issues", or lack thereof. So yes, do your due diligence. Personally, I would not go the Carib route. YMMV.

    Btw, what's wrong with Indians? Though, as an aside, they don't tend to end up at Jag.

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    finishingfifth, are UCLA and Rochester lousy hospitals to rotate in? I think your thinking about the other Polish programs which go through agents, charge a lot of money, and makes lots and lots of promises. JU is an extremely old University, one of the oldest in the world, extremely well respected, it is considered the Harvard of Poland. Most of our professors are also well known and respected. You know Wojciech Pawlina who co-wrote the Histo book most people in the U.S. aka (Ross Histo) well, our professor, was his professor, and Pawlina finished JU. Albeit the Polish program, but we still share the same professor/professors and for Histo he is quite good. Also, I really don't see how cheating is rampant in the 4 year program at JU. At other schools maybe, here, I haven't heard about it. And from what I know from other people in the higher years in the program, people have not had any problems passing the USMLE and most have not only passed but done quite well.

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