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    Residency Placement

    Hello,

    I'm a rising Junior at Columbia U who is thinking about attending JUMC. Initially, the only reason I was considering this medical school was because of the family edge (my father lives in Krakow); however, since I spend each summer in Poland, I had a chance to pop by the uni and have found that I really quite like it.

    I'm going to stop by the school again tomorrow to ask this question among others, but I was hoping that maybe some alumni are active on these boards or can be contacted somehow to answer the following: how successful is this school in placing students in their top-choice residencies? (obviously, it's not just up to the school to do this, but if a very low percentage of students get their top choices, then there's something to be said about that...) I have no idea where I'll want to work in the future, but I do think that a residency in the States would be beneficial for my career. If specifics help at all, I'm thinking about being a surgeon, but I'm not sure how the choice of specialty affects how likely one is to get it (I haven't quite thought so far ahead -- I just want to know that I shan't be burning any bridges by attending this school!)

    Thanks much in advance,
    -Ola

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    yeah about the residency-if i were to finish the 6 yr med program ad Jag, if i decided to come back to the u.s., would i have to do my residency again?
    p.s. how long is the residency in poland?
    Thanks!

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    The residency follows the 6 years...which would be for the first time in the states (if you so choose and if your step 1 scores are sufficient).

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    For further clarification on Glokta's point above, you need to understand that residency is not part of medical school. Residency is your specialization training (as a surgeon, family physician, psychiatrist, or whatever else) that comes AFTER you graduate from medical school. If you attend any foreign medical school, and want to work in the States, you need to take the USMLE Steps, match into a residency program, and complete your residency in the US.

    Residencies vary in length by specialty, and sometimes by program. Family medicine is 3 years. OBGYN is 4 years. General Surgery is 5. Neurosurgery is 6-7. There is a lot of information on this site about such things, have a look around.
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    ...which would be for the first time in the states...
    Glokta what do you mean with "in the states"? Is it US? What is first, I couldnt get As far as know, residency out of US is not recognized in US. Do you mean Jag offers residencies for foreign students for the first time in the English med program?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 156287 View Post
    ...if i decided to come back to the u.s., would i have to do my residency again?
    p.s. how long is the residency in poland?
    Thanks!
    Sorry for being so vague, Bidi...my only excuse is a caffeine fueled Assassin's Creed Revelations weekend and a solid cold. I was responding to his misunderstanding about the residency, which was then lucidly clarified by devildoc. All I meant by 'for the first time' was that he wouldn't (involuntarily, of course) be subjected to the residency process twice in his lifetime if he chose to attend Jag and then practice in the US.


    Traditionally, an internationally earned medical licence wouldn't allow one to become board certified in the states, and one would have to take the steps and do their residency again in the states. This is not always the case, a member of my extended family was asked to join a hospital in the states and was told that the residency requirement would be 'worked around'. He turned down the offer, so I am not sure about exactly how this would work, but I'm guessing that this is the exception and not the rule. One might have to, at the very least imo, write all three steps.

    I hope that this hasn't confused you even further =(

    On a lighter note - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsiv1...feature=colike
    Thanks to the MS1 student in the 6 year program who shared it with us.
    Last edited by Glokta; 11-28-2011 at 02:56 PM.

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    There are rare exceptions to the residency-repeating rule in the US, but they are few and far between. For example, in some states, a highly-regarded physician may be recruited from overseas to work as a faculty member at a US medical university, and will then be licensed in that state to practice in university-affiliated hospitals and clinics ONLY.

    In every instance, however, a foreign-trained physician must pass all of the USMLE Steps (1, 2cs, 2ck, 3) and become ECFMG certified in order to work in the States. Board certification is also generally not offered to foreign trained physicians, even if they are US licensed, which can lead to difficulties finding a job in some areas of the country. (However, I have seen US medical faculty from the UK who use their foreign "Fellow of the Royal College of Super-Duper Awesome Medicine" board certifications, and they seem to be doing fine.)

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    I just noticed, that double negation wasn't supposed to be there.

    Yeah, he's not British, but he is a Fellow of the Royal College of Surgeons or summat and is also on a few of their committees.
    Last edited by Glokta; 11-28-2011 at 02:56 PM.

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    Which double-negative... and who isn't British?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glokta View Post
    I just noticed, that double negation wasn't supposed to be there.

    Yeah, he's not British, but he is a Fellow of the Royal College of Surgeons or summat and is also on a few of their committees.

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    All I meant by 'for the first time' was that he wouldn't (involuntarily, of course) be subjected to the residency process twice in his lifetime if he chose to attend Jag and then practice in the US.
    May I get my nose in here again
    Glokta I still didnt get it and I dont have any excuse like that Assasin thing
    If you attend Jag (to be an MD, not for residency) does it have a positive role in finding a residency match in US?
    Or does it mean, if you attend residency in Jag, .. ?
    What does this "residency process twice in lifetime" mean, man? I am totally lost now..

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