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    IUHS Straight Answers From Current Students

    I am a current student at IUHS. I have started this thread to reach out to other current students who may wish to share their experiences and to prospective students who may have questions.


    The IUHS program: The first two years of Basic Medical Sciences is on line with live lectures. I just finished Block 3. The Basic Medical Science curriculum takes 27 months to complete. It is followed by the usual 80 weeks over years three and four in U.S. hospitals. The 27 months begins with "Block Zero" (now called "PMT"). PMT is 12 weeks. Blocks 1 -8 are each eight weeks long and comprise the medical and science knowledge needed to be a physician. Blocks 9 and 10 are intensive review, study and practice testing for the USMLE Step 1 Examination. I just finished Block 3 and begin Block 4 on August 18, 2014. There is about a one to three week break between each block. You can finish five blocks per calendar year.

    Each Block so far has been 85-100 lecture hours. Yes, they are on-line. The Power Point slides are available ahead of time if you are like me. I print them out and write notes on them as the professor lectures. 100 lecture hours spread over seven weeks is 12 -15 class hours a week. Week 8 is study time and a final examination. I study at least two hours for every lecture hour. Literally thousands of practice questions (USMLE style questions) are provided to study (best estimate is 1,200 - 1,500 per block)

    Beginning in Block 1 there is "DxR" which is a computer program with a virtual patient to practice on. There is also 20 hours a month working in the clinic with a physician mentor. Thus, the program is not just an "on-line medical school." Bottom line is you have to be mature, self-motivated and dedicated to succeed in this program. Many have and are doing it. The question you must ask and answer for yourself: how bad do you want to be a physician?

    The estimated cost over four years is $70,000. This figure does not include living expenses if you have to move elsewhere for clinical rotations.

    Please post your impressions if you are a current student. If you are a prospective student or just curious post your questions too. I invite my classmates to join me in responding. If you want to keep it private, send me a PM. If all you have to contribute is nastiness please don't bother. I hope that this thread will be helpful. Good luck to all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawyerdoc2b View Post
    I have finally returned to ValueMD after a long absence. I last posted some time ago and so many of you have sent me a PM or an email that it is difficult to find the time to respond. Many have asked me for an update on my personal journey so here goes. A week ago, I finished my 48 weeks of clinical rotations in Atlanta, GA (3rd year core clinicals are: Internal Medicine, Pediatrics, Surgery, Family Medicine, ObGyn and Psychiatry). I have the Step 2 exams this Summer and then some 4th year electives remaining after I finish the tests. I will not be spending all of my time on ValueMD as I am committed to doing well on Step 2 CK and CS. It has taken me almost two years to finish these rotations because I still am the majority owner of a small law firm and it generates money. If I do apply for residency it will be Psychiatry (I do plan on doing so).

    Everyone is on their own journey. Some finish and some don't. Some breeze through and others take a longer route. IUHS worked for me. It may or may not work for you. I belief that many fail because they are in love with being a doctor which is not the same as wanting to be a doctor so bad nothing short of being one will put out the fire in your belly. I have taken longer because I am the majority owner of a small law firm and I have a family to support. It is hard to give up a six figure income to go to school only and then live on Resident pay.

    My advise: If you have the credentials to go to an American medical school then go. If you can go to the Caribbean and afford the massive cost of going to Ross or perhaps another of the big four (e.g. you have no other way to pay for it except by student loans) then go. If you need the traditional classroom experience and you or your family can afford to send you to the islands then go. If distance learning works for you (it did for me) then consider IUHS. I personally rejected Oceana because I wasn't fond of the teaching methodology nor of going to American Samoa for a clinic rotation. I rejected USAT because I know a Nurse Practitioner who went and failed the Step 1 three times. I know, don't criticize my lack of scientific sampling. In addition, I hated the name - it sounds like a trade school. (I must state this caveat: do your own due diligence and don't rely solely on my opinions). I note that a lot of people trash IUHS and they know very darn little about it. So sort through the B.S. and form your own conclusions.

    I have learned that there are many Caribbean students who have successfully navigated through the long process and there are even more that try it and don't finish it. IUHS is not for everyone. I have had clinical rotations with students from probably a dozen Caribbean and other foreign medical schools. My belief is that none of them prepare you to be a doctor (by that I mean no spoon feeding if that is what you expect). You must be dedicated to learning and dig it out yourself. I stand amazed at most other Caribbean schools. We students in clinical rotations talk to one another. They charge $6 - 8,000 per12 week semester and pay the preceptor less than half that to teach you. At IUHS, you pay the doctor directly. I paid from zero to $300 per week. So, IUHS is more affordable in this respect.

    Most schools offer very little guidance in navigating through the 3rd and 4th years and virtually none in how to successfully apply for and gain a residency. For example, my observation is that most students ask the preceptor doctor in their clinical rotations for a letter of recommendation. Most doctors say yes. The doctor then writes a canned letter lacking in specifics and personalization. The reality is the preceptor physicians teach so many students that if you want a personalized letter you need to draft it yourself and give the doctor a flash drive and let the doctor edit the final product. If you do your letter will standout.


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    I agree with everything you are saying except I take issue with two things: If someone really wants to practice medicine, IUHS, being an online school, gives rise to a host of licensing issues in many states. My second point is that after 2023, IUHS would no longer be a viable option for those planning to practice in the US because of the ECFMG's new requirements regarding accreditation. The Caribbean accreditation authority won't accept schools that are online and have no connection to the place they are chartered. This means no ability to even write the Steps. This is something people should carefully research and understand before considering the online route. IUHS is not alone. Other online schools or distance education programs would be similarly effect.

    Oceania may escape this trap because it is accredited by Philippines and is not technically a Caribbean school. If ECFMG accepts the Philippine's accreditation system, Oceania could potentially escape this trap. But it is still an online school and will have licensing issues independent of ECFMG's new requirements.

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    I am currently enrolled in IUHS but I've been reading some negative information about it recently and don't know wether to proceed or just quit. Please kindly inform me how yours has been so far.
    Have you graduated? Do graduates get to practice in the US? Have you met any IUHS graduate?
    Quote Originally Posted by lawyerdoc2b View Post
    I am a current student at IUHS. I have started this thread to reach out to other current students who may wish to share their experiences and to prospective students who may have questions.


    The IUHS program: The first two years of Basic Medical Sciences is on line with live lectures. I just finished Block 3. The Basic Medical Science curriculum takes 27 months to complete. It is followed by the usual 80 weeks over years three and four in U.S. hospitals. The 27 months begins with "Block Zero" (now called "PMT"). PMT is 12 weeks. Blocks 1 -8 are each eight weeks long and comprise the medical and science knowledge needed to be a physician. Blocks 9 and 10 are intensive review, study and practice testing for the USMLE Step 1 Examination. I just finished Block 3 and begin Block 4 on August 18, 2014. There is about a one to three week break between each block. You can finish five blocks per calendar year.

    Each Block so far has been 85-100 lecture hours. Yes, they are on-line. The Power Point slides are available ahead of time if you are like me. I print them out and write notes on them as the professor lectures. 100 lecture hours spread over seven weeks is 12 -15 class hours a week. Week 8 is study time and a final examination. I study at least two hours for every lecture hour. Literally thousands of practice questions (USMLE style questions) are provided to study (best estimate is 1,200 - 1,500 per block)

    Beginning in Block 1 there is "DxR" which is a computer program with a virtual patient to practice on. There is also 20 hours a month working in the clinic with a physician mentor. Thus, the program is not just an "on-line medical school." Bottom line is you have to be mature, self-motivated and dedicated to succeed in this program. Many have and are doing it. The question you must ask and answer for yourself: how bad do you want to be a physician?

    The estimated cost over four years is $70,000. This figure does not include living expenses if you have to move elsewhere for clinical rotations.

    Please post your impressions if you are a current student. If you are a prospective student or just curious post your questions too. I invite my classmates to join me in responding. If you want to keep it private, send me a PM. If all you have to contribute is nastiness please don't bother. I hope that this thread will be helpful. Good luck to all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawyerdoc2b View Post
    No scholarships or grants that I am aware of.


    If you have any questions that you don't want to post or want some indepth information send me a message and I'll provide my contact info.
    Please can I have your contact information? This whole thing is getting me depressed and I need someone to talk to.

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    If you are currently enrolled, you should be guided by your experience and not by what others say about the school. If you are happy with your education you should stay and finish. You should be able to get the answers to your questions directly from the school, especially since you are an enrolled student. The school should be able to put you in touch with their recent graduates who have been able to secure residency.

    I don't think it is useful to seek advice from people who have never attended IUHS. As a current student you should be able rely on your own experience and the information the school provides you.

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    Well i just wanted to hear from someone who it has worked for. I have a feeling that the school authority may not be honest about the success of their graduates in getting residencies when asked and that's why I haven't asked yet although I plan to. What I have asked them however is if there is any kind of discrimination a graduate will face in getting residency seeing that it's an online school and they said there's none.
    Quote Originally Posted by Med grad View Post
    If you are currently enrolled, you should be guided by your experience and not by what others say about the school. If you are happy with your education you should stay and finish. You should be able to get the answers to your questions directly from the school, especially since you are an enrolled student. The school should be able to put you in touch with their recent graduates who have been able to secure residency.

    I don't think it is useful to seek advice from people who have never attended IUHS. As a current student you should be able rely on your own experience and the information the school provides you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omudia11 View Post
    Well i just wanted to hear from someone who it has worked for. I have a feeling that the school authority may not be honest about the success of their graduates in getting residencies when asked and that's why I haven't asked yet although I plan to. What I have asked them however is if there is any kind of discrimination a graduate will face in getting residency seeing that it's an online school and they said there's none.
    The reality for Foreign Medical graduates is that getting a U.S. residency is difficult regardless of the medical school you attend! Becoming ECFMG certified is just one of the hoops to jump through!

    See Phases 1 thru 4 Link regarding medical school recognition by ECFMG:

    https://www.ecfmg.org/about/initiati...quirement.html

    Presently, I don't see any "Sponsor Notes" indicating ECFMG sanctions against IUHS of St. Kitts.
    https://search.wdoms.org/home/SchoolDetail/F0001171

    Another obstacle however, may be getting a U.S. State license to practice with online studies in Basic Sciences even with successful USMLE steps, ECFMG certification and a US Residency. This depends on which U.S. State or Territory licenses you. A lot of people don't realize that licensing is at the State or territory level and except for the DEA license or Merchant Marine license, not the Federal level. Each State or US territory has specific rules and regulations affecting licensure. ie: Number of USMLE attempts, ACGME accredited residency and yes maybe even No online component of medical school, etc. etc. Other exceptions are: Florida House Physician License, Puerto Rican only approved Internship. Some States and territories even consider Foreign residencies like Canada or UK (Royal College of Surgeons, etc).

    It really is rolling the dice going to a foreign medical school with the intent of practicing in the USA! With that said, perhaps there are other countries that may embrace medical graduates from WHO recognized schools. However, if your heart is set on practicing in the USA, please explore all your options for schools in the USA...don't forget, Puerto Rico has medical schools that are US accredited as well. In your search include; MD, DO and consider PA, NP and other health practitioner tracks: DPM, ND, DC, OD, DDS, AuD, PsyD, PharmD, etc. before investing a quarter million plus dollars!

    Just my two cents!
    Last edited by leadsled; 01-07-2019 at 05:50 PM.

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