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    is there any uni better than masaryk

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    I want to study medicine (BA) 6 years decided to study at the University of masaryek in Brno Are there better options than this university in Slovakia, Hungary Poland? After graduation I want to work there, I think masaryek is the best masaryek even better than Charles University i fell charles old system uni please help>

    2. ok if i decide in the future to work or training in the us

    can you please give me the list of E-U uni that aprroved in the us

    iwant to study in english
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    Basically all of the EU universities are "approved in the US," as you put it... but the English programs are not approved in all 50 states. There is a lot of information on VMD about this, feel free to use the search function.

    You can check the California Medical Board website ( Medical Schools Recognized | Medical Board of California ) to find out which English programs have CMB approval, meaning that they are approved in all 50 states. However, you are probably looking at a rough go of it to match in the US after about 2016, according to the AAMC and ACGME. Read up on this, it matters.

    Finally, if you already failed out of Charles, then you need to be double-damn sure that you have made the necessary changes to succeed at an even "better" university. Changing addresses is not going to make you a better student...

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    thanks devildoc8404's

    1. do you know what are the Criteria to approved English program according to calfeoriena i mean why Charles first has approved English program but other 2 and 3 Charles don? is it possible in the near future that California Medical Board approved English program in Masaryk


    2. OK maybe i don work or train in the us after i gradute so in this case California Medical Board not important to me

    maybe i continue my study in canda Australia Ireland Scotland . Germany even in Czech or Slovakia if i study there
    so regardless of California Medical Board i need your advice about eastern Europe MEDICAL SCHOOL CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE ME 5 OR 3 MED SCHOOL THAT YOU RECOMMEND IN eastern Europe

    as i said i think Masaryk is good option and the medical school in czech better than slovakia / hungary and polish

    3. i don have other option expect study in these country ( Russia
    Czech Republic
    Poland
    Hungary
    Romania
    Croatia

    Slovakia
    Bulgaria

    china or india

    3. so what you think as expert in this filed?

    4. please if you have more information about the quality of medical school in Masaryk i will be happy if you share it with me


    5. there is something weird there is bad school in Poland approved in California such as Medical University of Lublin 2.Medical University of Silesia

    i don think these uni better than Masaryk ?
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    First off, I am not an expert in this field... just a guy with an educated opinion.

    1. do you know what are the Criteria to approved English program according to calfeoriena i mean why Charles first has approved English program but other 2 and 3 Charles don? is it possible in the near future that California Medical Board approved English program in Masaryk

    It is a lengthy and involved process. It takes a very long time and a lot of administrative paperwork (which is not a strong point of most schools in the E-EU) to get CMB approval. Like, it takes literally years. Unless Masaryk has already applied and is in the latter stages of the process, it will not be happening soon.

    2. OK maybe i don work or train in the us after i gradute so in this case California Medical Board not important to me

    Wow. OK, that was fast. Apparently you do not know what you want to do. That is OK, but you need to do some more research.

    maybe i continue my study in canda Australia Ireland Scotland .

    No, Canada is not happening. It requires a 4-year university degree to apply, and even top Canadian students, who speak perfect English and have excellent undergraduate grades, are rejected each year. Australia, Ireland, and Scotland all accept foreign students, but they are very competitive (not to mention expensive). Frankly, and no offense is intended, but based on your posts your English is not at a level to make you competitive in these programs.

    Germany even in Czech or Slovakia if i study there

    You can only apply to Germany if you speak German... there are no English programs in Germany. Czech and Slovakian schools have English programs, have a go there if you like.

    so regardless of California Medical Board i need your advice about eastern Europe MEDICAL SCHOOL CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE ME 5 OR 3 MED SCHOOL THAT YOU RECOMMEND IN eastern Europe

    Stop shouting, please. I cannot recommend a school for someone without knowing a lot more about them and what they want to accomplish, where they want to work, etc. It all depends. However, I can tell you that the medical schools with the better reputations in E-EU are Charles First Faculty, Jagiellonian, Semmelweis, Gdansk, Warsaw, and maybe Riga. There are other good ones, I'm sure, and many-many-many of them that suck.

    as i said i think Masaryk is good option and the medical school in czech better than slovakia / hungary and polish

    Then by all means, go to Masaryk. Report back and tell us how things go.

    3. i don have other option expect study in these country Interesting. Is that an immigration issue?

    Russia Would not be my first choice for a lot of reasons... political and otherwise.
    Czech Republic Has some good programs and some bad programs, like most places. Charles First is the most famous... but that ship has sailed.
    Poland Mix of good and bad, Jag, Gdansk and Warsaw seem all right.
    Hungary Mix of good and bad, Semmelweis is the most renowned.
    Romania Would not be my first choice, although Cluj Napoca has some good students and seems all right.
    Croatia I almost went to school here. Zagreb is good, by E-EU standards. Split seems like an interesting program, as well, but it is pretty new.
    Slovakia Mixed bag. Comenius is supposed to be OK.
    Bulgaria I studied here and do not recommend it to most people, unless they have Bulgarian ties.
    china or india I could not be paid enough to study in either location, although some of the Indian programs produce excellent doctors.

    3. so what you think as expert in this filed?

    See above.

    4. please if you have more information about the quality of medical school in Masaryk i will be happy if you share it with me

    I know virtually nothing about Masaryk.

    5. there is something weird there is bad school in Poland approved in California such as Medical University of Lublin 2.Medical University of Silesia
    i don think these uni better than Masaryk ?


    Overall quality has nothing to do with CMB approval. Lublin and Silesia applied many years ago for CMB approval, likely with the help of their US-based application service organization. Masaryk has probably not even applied. The application is incredibly long... the admin at my school would not even consider filling it out. They "lost" it, which is hard to do because it is like the size of a Harrison's text, if it was written in large print.

    Quite honestly, it seems that you need to do some research and figure out exactly what it is that you want.

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    devildoc8404 thanks for your help
    i have friends in Gdansk
    the reason why i except first charles from my mind because i have friend there he told me how the system go there the only take 20 students after the first year they choose the higher rate students i dont know if you have more info about the fail system and how the thing there

    about Masaryk have friend also there

    lets me clear some point i dont mean i will study in canda Australia Ireland Scotland for mudr
    now i mean when i compete mudr in Masaryk.2. Semmelweis.3Gdansk i will go there to study Ophthalmology

    but now i want to study in Masaryk.2. Semmelweis.3Gdansk these are my 3 option but Semmelweis i dont know any one there so it the last option for my

    i serarched alot 6 month >>>

    if your in my position which one of them you choose

    as i said its not Priority to me to study or train in the us i think i will work in czeck or poland
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    That means you will need to speak Czech or Polish, as well as be able to get a work permit there. Perhaps you have an EU passport already, that will simplify things.

    Ophthalmology is very competitive everyplace, I wish you well. However, be aware the numbers for getting specialty training in Canada are abysmal as a foreign grad... even if you were a Canadian citizen the chances are incredibly low. We are talking about single digit percentages. Canada makes the US look easy, which it is not. Ireland and Scotland are very competitive as well, albeit somewhat easier if you have an EU or UK passport. And that assumes nothing changes in the coming 6 years, which I would not bet on. Oz is tough to get as a foreigner until after you specialize, or have at least 3 years clinical experience after graduation. None of those places are super likely for most foreigners as initial training locations after graduation, just FYI.

    Of the three you mentioned, I think Semmelweis has the best reputation, but it is also known to be a bit rough on students (especially the foreign lot), which seems to be a sticking point for you. Gdansk is definitely up and coming and in a nice location. I know almost nothing about Masaryk at all. All three are EU diplomas. Get in, get through, and good luck finding a training position afterward. Your language skills and passport(s) will largely dictate the feasibility of the locations for specialization after medical school.

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    thanks

    do you have more info about Semmelweis ?

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    thanks for your time i will back if i have questions

    all the best to you devildoc8404

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