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    Practice medicine in the Czech Republic

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    Does anyone practice medicine in the Czech Republic? If so, did you go to Charles Uni? How's the life of a physician in this country?

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    After you graduate the training salary is very low. I believe it might be so low in fact that you would need external funds to support yourself adequately.

    Afterwards, it gets a lot better but is no way comparable to the western countries.

    A Czech friend told me that many Czech doctors are going to Germany for better pay and that the German doctors are going to Switzerland for better pay

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    Quote Originally Posted by AP95 View Post
    Does anyone practice medicine in the Czech Republic? If so, did you go to Charles Uni? How's the life of a physician in this country?
    The working conditions are really bad here for junior (actually all) doctors.

    Typically they take home about 26 000 czk per month after taxes and this is only because they get paid extra for doing night shifts.

    Czech is not the place to work as a doctor. The cost of living is quite high and rent is expensive.

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    The E-EU in general is a pretty horrible place to practice medicine, unless you:
    a) are independently wealthy,
    b) are comfortable making less than a taxi driver (nothing against taxi drivers, but still),
    c) enjoy complete and utter disorganization,
    d) all of the above.

    Residents here make almost nothing, and 75% of the paltry stipend is taken back for residency fees. How does that make sense?!?!

    The mention above about doctors leaving the E-EU in droves is true. Here in the Balkans, almost any young doctor who speaks another European language has already left, or is planning on leaving, for the W-EU... usually Germany, France, R-Ireland, or the UK. One of my favorite assistant profs here, a general surgeon, left for a new job in Germany this past January. He had been working his butt off for less than 600 Leva ( $400) per month, and often not even receiving that amount. Cost of living in Sofia is cheaper, yeah, but it's not THAT much cheaper. The German doctors are, indeed, pissing off the Swiss doctors by crossing the border to work for more money, themselves... or going to the UK/US.

    Yes, you can get decent medical training in E-EU, depending on your personal work ethic and where you study... but I sure as hell would not want to work here.

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    Unfortunately, the outlook for practicing here is pretty dismal. The working conditions aren't terrible - pretty mediocre, neither the best nor the worst - but the salaries taken by doctors are staggeringly low. My microbiology prof (who received his medical degree here in CZ and a PhD. in pharmacy from the US; works both as a teacher and as an oncologist) complains a lot about it; he said the average salary among his colleagues was around 20 000 CZK/month... I know students who have scholarships worth twice that amount. Highly disconcerting, if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alainamae View Post
    Unfortunately, the outlook for practicing here is pretty dismal. The working conditions aren't terrible - pretty mediocre, neither the best nor the worst - but the salaries taken by doctors are staggeringly low. My microbiology prof (who received his medical degree here in CZ and a PhD. in pharmacy from the US; works both as a teacher and as an oncologist) complains a lot about it; he said the average salary among his colleagues was around 20 000 CZK/month... I know students who have scholarships worth twice that amount. Highly disconcerting, if you ask me.
    This sounds like nonsense because if "your professor" earns 20000 CZK a month, that means in a year he earns 240000CZK, which is about 9000, I made more working as a healthcare assistant in the UK, with no qualifications except for my A-Levels.

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    That is in no way, shape, or form "nonsense." Honestly, Yoma, you must be aware that much of the rest of the world does not operate like the UK. You do understand that there are significant differences between regional economies, right?

    Let me proffer another example. One of my former Assistant Professors, a board certified general surgeon, makes 600 Bulgarian Leva per month. That is not an exaggeration, as we are friends and I have seen his pay stub. That means that in a year he makes 7200 Bulgarian Leva, which equates with today's exchange rate to roughly 2961 British Pounds. That is per year, my friend, and while it is admittedly cheaper to live here, it ain't anywhere near that cheap. And you wonder why people are lined up to get the hell out of Eastern Europe?

    Doctors will sometimes work second jobs as a cab driver here, and literally make more money driving the cab. Yes, there are doctors who do all right in private practice, but almost no general surgeon here can afford to set up a private practice. Anyone whose procedures are tied to the health care facilities (surgeons, anesthesiologists, etc.) makes the crap wages that come with working for the health system... and if they are young enough and speak another language, they are almost always actively looking for an opportunity outside of E-EU. Can you blame them?

    It is absolutely not nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoma View Post
    This sounds like nonsense because if "your professor" earns 20000 CZK a month, that means in a year he earns 240000CZK, which is about 9000, I made more working as a healthcare assistant in the UK, with no qualifications except for my A-Levels.
    Its not nonsense at all, as I said its quite normal to take home 25 000 CZK per month. Generally a consultant will take home unto 40 to 50 000 but not more.

    The cost of living in quite high in Prague, even a basic hole in the middle of nowhere is around 12 000 CZK pcm to rent.

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    I agree with you the cost of living in Prague relative to the general wages earned is high. However:

    Quote Originally Posted by LF1Student View Post
    even a basic hole in the middle of nowhere is around 12 000 CZK pcm to rent.
    12,000CZK per month will get you a comfortable 1 bedroom flat if you hunt around. This was my experience at looking at the websites which were designed for Czech people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honzah View Post
    I agree with you the cost of living in Prague relative to the general wages earned is high. However:



    12,000CZK per month will get you a comfortable 1 bedroom flat if you hunt around. This was my experience at looking at the websites which were designed for Czech people.
    12k will get you something but not much at all, don't forget electricity, heating and water will be close to 2k per month so only leaving 10k for rent.

    Finding anything for 10k plus bills around P1,P2,P3,P7,P5 and P6 would be hard.

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