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    Final Exam at Charles or Palacky

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    Does anyone know what language the final exam is at Charles or Palacky? I know the programs are in English, but I read somewhere that in order to become licensed in any country, you need to take licensing exams in that country's official language? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    Under that assumption, wouldn't the final exams be in Czech?

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    In American international medical schools english program + english exams required for practice in the united states.
    For your respective countries + exams its most likely the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gx255 View Post
    In American international medical schools english program + english exams required for practice in the united states.
    For your respective countries + exams its most likely the same.
    So the english programs are designed for American standards?

    I don't really understand what you mean, sorry.

    If it helps, I'm from Canada. I know it's hard for IMGs to get residency here so I'm settling for working in Europe but I can't find any good information on the jobs and salaries available except that Czech doctors make approx. $900 USD a month and plan to strike / leave the country.

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    Not really, the English programs are just a replica of th Czech programs but in a different language. It follows a European standard.

    Physicians' salaries are horrible in CR. I would recommend looking into other European countries for working (Western Europe, UK etc.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by shrey View Post
    Not really, the English programs are just a replica of th Czech programs but in a different language. It follows a European standard.

    Physicians' salaries are horrible in CR. I would recommend looking into other European countries for working (Western Europe, UK etc.)
    I'm really confused on how the process works when trying to find work in other European countries. On Charles' / Palacky's websites, it says the MuDr is valid for at least limited registration. I don't really know what this means exactly. I would assume you'd have to learn the language of the country you'd have to work in and do residency/internship in that country? Or can you simply after the completion of 6 years work in any country you want in the EU?

    Because from my limited understanding, the way I see is that you complete your 6 years, you get your MuDr / MD but you need to complete residency/internship afterwords to start working as a doctor? So in most people's cases, they might go back to US or Canada, pass the USLME or MCCEE and then enter the residency matching program, complete residency, get their license and then start working?

    Thanks for your help btw, I've spent the whole weekend trying to find answers to these questions.

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    You need to complete residency after the 6 years... the medical school completes the certification as a physician, but it is the residency training that allows you to practice medicine and know what the bleep you are actually doing.

    So, yes, if you want to work in the EU, you are well-advised to complete the medical degree in the EU, and then apply for residency training in the country where you would like to work. Some countries are more welcoming than others in this regard, however. For example, Sweden will be happy to accept you as a specialist who has completed residency training, but not as a resident, so you would need to train elsewhere (and speak Swedish, although there are companies that are willing to pay to help you learn the language). Germany is crying for residents (Assistenzaerzte) right now in many specialties, so if you speak German you can often get excellent training there, although the pay isn't that great. However, again, they are mainly looking for grads from EU schools. Ireland is hiring, as well, and they seem to pay better than the Germans.

    If you want to work in North America, you need to pass the USMLE/MCCEE (FWIW do NOT take the USMLE after medical school, take the Steps during medical school after the 3rd or 4th year) and then apply to match into a residency program there. Canada is really-really-really hard to match into from overseas, from a strict numbers standpoint. (The US is only really... or perhaps really-really... hard to match into from overseas. Far easier than Canada, anyway, depending on the specialty.)

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    what devildoc said
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    Quote Originally Posted by devildoc8404 View Post
    You need to complete residency after the 6 years... the medical school completes the certification as a physician, but it is the residency training that allows you to practice medicine and know what the bleep you are actually doing.

    So, yes, if you want to work in the EU, you are well-advised to complete the medical degree in the EU, and then apply for residency training in the country where you would like to work. Some countries are more welcoming than others in this regard, however. For example, Sweden will be happy to accept you as a specialist who has completed residency training, but not as a resident, so you would need to train elsewhere (and speak Swedish, although there are companies that are willing to pay to help you learn the language). Germany is crying for residents (Assistenzaerzte) right now in many specialties, so if you speak German you can often get excellent training there, although the pay isn't that great. However, again, they are mainly looking for grads from EU schools. Ireland is hiring, as well, and they seem to pay better than the Germans.

    If you want to work in North America, you need to pass the USMLE/MCCEE (FWIW do NOT take the USMLE after medical school, take the Steps during medical school after the 3rd or 4th year) and then apply to match into a residency program there. Canada is really-really-really hard to match into from overseas, from a strict numbers standpoint. (The US is only really... or perhaps really-really... hard to match into from overseas. Far easier than Canada, anyway, depending on the specialty.)
    Thanks for your informative post

    I just looked at the Irish Medical Council website and in the registration for internship it says:

    "it is worth noting that the HSE will not consider applications for intern training posts from graduates (of whatever nationality) from Medical Schools in the following countries: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Estonia, Germany, Greece, Spain, France, Cyprus, Iceland, Latvia, Hungary, Netherlands, Romania, Slovenia, Switzerland and the Slovak Republic."

    So does that mean you can simply register and become a GP in ireland? Or is inter training and residency not the same thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yuri View Post
    Thanks for your informative post

    I just looked at the Irish Medical Council website and in the registration for internship it says:

    "it is worth noting that the HSE will not consider applications for intern training posts from graduates (of whatever nationality) from Medical Schools in the following countries: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Estonia, Germany, Greece, Spain, France, Cyprus, Iceland, Latvia, Hungary, Netherlands, Romania, Slovenia, Switzerland and the Slovak Republic."

    So does that mean you can simply register and become a GP in ireland? Or is inter training and residency not the same thing?
    This is very interesting,I didn't know the Irish medical council was that strict.As far as I understand intern training and residency is the same thing,I might be wrong,but I understand the Irish medical council is not willing to accept graduates from those countries,really weird...

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    Quote Originally Posted by brusmani View Post
    This is very interesting,I didn't know the Irish medical council was that strict.As far as I understand intern training and residency is the same thing,I might be wrong,but I understand the Irish medical council is not willing to accept graduates from those countries,really weird...
    Sorry, I should have added the second part to that paragraph. Here it is:

    "it is worth noting that the HSE will not consider applications for intern training posts from graduates (of whatever nationality) from Medical Schools in the following countries:
    Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Estonia, Germany, Greece, Spain, France, Cyprus, Iceland, Latvia, Hungary, Netherlands, Romania, Slovenia, Switzerland and the Slovak Republic.

    This is because these graduates are deemed, under EU legislation, to have already completed their medical training to a standard equivalent to that of a graduate of an Irish medical school who has already completed internship training and has been awarded a Certificate of Experience."

    medicalcouncil.ie/Registration/First-Time-Applicants/Internship-Registration/

    I did assume before intern training and residency are the same thing but Ireland thinks otherwise?

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