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    guys .am Irish and i am applying for medicine in charles university.Is it possible that for me to practice medicine in the uk with this degree..and would it be simpler as I am from the eu?

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    Yes, it would.


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    charles uni

    like am applying for charles 3 in hradec and like is that a bad college or are they all the same..the medical colleges

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    It's neither bad nor the same as the First Faculty. It's just slightly easier than the First Fac. and is not CA approved (which is not a big advantage if you plan on working in the US in the future.)


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    charles university 3rd faculty medicine

    i am in 6th year of my leaving certifincate or the last year of my highschool and i am preparing for my final exams so,i dont know much about medicine as a profession . Could you guys tell me the steps if i were to become a doctor after the mbbs course in charles and how i want to become a doctor in the UK? I am from Rep.Of.Ireland not northern Ireland which is a part of Britain

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    Dear Shery, I hope that you are still at CU, so hopefully I can get an answer from you. My son is an American studying in the USA and will graduate in May with BA Biochemistry, he is Pre-Med. but unfortunately his grades are not good enough to go to an American Medical School, so we are looking for alternatives. A friend of mine suggested that I look through East European countries, my question is, would you recommend this move? and if not CA, which university would you recommend, regardless of location, since we are open to any location and keeping in mind my son will return to USA to practice there. Thank you very much for your time in considering my request.

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    mhawada, I am not shrey, but I am also studying in E-Eu. I would recommend the following graduate programs (4-year) medical schools if your son is determined to study in Europe. (Note that Charles is a 6-year program for students who have not yet been to college, so I am not including it, although it has a fine reputation. I doubt your son wants to start over again with high school graduates after earning his college degree in the States.)

    OK, with that out of the way, some of the best graduate European options for returning to the States for practice are:

    1) Any graduate medical program in Ireland (application available through Atlantic Bridge: US and Canadian students studying medicine, dentistry, and veterinary medicine in Ireland)
    2) Any graduate medical program in England
    3) Jagiellonian (Krakow, Poland)
    4) Australia (which isn't Europe, but also has some graduate options)

    These schools are also competitive for admission, so it will depend on his scores, but they are the best options. Ireland also has a couple of graduate 5-year programs, which may be slightly easier for him to gain admission.

    There are a few other 4-year programs in Poland, but I have heard varying reports about their organization and quality. However, some of them have 50 state approval and offer US rotations. Also, there are four medical schools in the Caribbean (Ross, AUC, SABA, and SGU) that offer 50 state approval, and he may be competitive there.

    The rest of the programs in Europe are mainly 6-year programs for high school graduates. That is the traditional standard in the EU.

    Frankly, and this is important, if he has the stats, his very best option for US practice as a physician is DO school in the States. He should look at that before considering studying overseas. It is not easy, and getting harder, for overseas grads to get residency training in the USA.

    Finally, and I mean this with all due respect, if your son is not motivated enough to get this information himself, it is not likely that he currently possesses the drive and desire to study medicine. If he is, and you are simply helping him glean information, then great, but I'm just putting that out there. It's got to be his baby, because at the point of medical school, mom and dad can't do it for you... nor should they.

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    Thank you very much for your valuable information. The decision to become a Dr. is entirely my son's decision ever since he was little and that is why he went into the premed/Biochemistry track. My son and I are splitting the search, he is taking the USA side and I am taking the other options. BTW, I found that many 6 year medical programs do accept college graduates from US. They evaluate each student on a personal level. The problem is I have no way of finding whether that particular school is accredited state side. Do you know how to find out? Yes you are right, the Island's choices seems to be the best options so far, since they cater mainly to the US/Canadian students. I will search the options you have given me. Finally, are you aware of the Russian options, particularly Kursk State Medical University? I appreciate all your help.

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    Thank you very much for your valuable information.

    Not at all. It's a big decision.

    The decision to become a Dr. is entirely my son's decision ever since he was little and that is why he went into the premed/Biochemistry track.

    Cool. I was just putting it out there, you never know... and I have seen people who are miserable and hate medicine after a decade into it. It's sad.

    My son and I are splitting the search, he is taking the USA side and I am taking the other options.

    It sounds like you have a good division of labor!

    BTW, I found that many 6 year medical programs do accept college graduates from US. They evaluate each student on a personal level.

    That is true, certainly. They will be happy to take six years of tuition from you! The problem is that 1) you will be paying two extra years of tuition for nothing, and 2) he will be EXTREMELY bored during the first two to two and a half years of a six-year program. Not to mention the significant difference in maturity level between a fresh high school graduate and a fresh college graduate, which should not be underestimated.

    The problem is I have no way of finding whether that particular school is accredited state side. Do you know how to find out?

    Yes. The standard for 50-state approval is essentially set through the California Medical Board. (Not because California is all that awesome, per se, but because they are the most strict and several other states follow their list to some degree or other.) Their website clearly delineates what foreign, English-language programs are approved, and which are not. Remember to look for ENGLISH LANGUAGE CURRICULUM designation, and not the native language program. Welcome to the Medical Board of California - Medical Schools

    Yes you are right, the Island's choices seems to be the best options so far, since they cater mainly to the US/Canadian students. I will search the options you have given me.

    The Big Four of the Carib are, to my thinking, the ONLY choices in the Carib. However, I would absolutely consider the 4-year (or 5-year) programs in Ireland, England, and Poland (Jagiellonian). The choice between Europe and Carib is a personal one, and there are positive and negative elements to each.

    Finally, are you aware of the Russian options, particularly Kursk State Medical University? I appreciate all your help.

    IMHO, I would not study in Russia/Ukraine right now, due to serious concerns about visas for foreigners. I also have some classmates who started in Russia and transferred here, but their information is second-hand. In Europe, the best options for 4/5 year graduate programs are Ireland, England and Jag in Poland. The other Polish graduate programs with 50 state approval come after that. The 6-year programs, if you entertain that option, add to the list with Charles First Faculty, Semmelweis, and a number of others. Finally, if your son speaks a European language fluently, the native-language medical schools in Germany, France, etc. are all 50 state approved, excellent, and usually extremely inexpensive.

    For that matter, if you are in Lebanon and your son has the opportunity to study medicine there, the Lebanese medical schools there are also 50 state approved and could be an attractive option.

    Good luck to you in your search for the right school!

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    Hey guys, to apply to charles university 2nd faculty , they give us 2 options either sat subject or the entrance exam.. Does anyone know which would be better, which is easier?

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