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    There is a new program in Florida that is doing Doctor of Physical Therapy degrees that is flex-time

    http://www.usa.edu/flex.htm

    Some chiropractors are apparently being admitted into the program and you can inquire as to the possibility for admittance.
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    Hmmm

    Sounds reasonable.

    Quote Originally Posted by azskeptic
    There is a new program in Florida that is doing Doctor of Physical Therapy degrees that is flex-time

    http://www.usa.edu/flex.htm

    Some chiropractors are apparently being admitted into the program and you can inquire as to the possibility for admittance.

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    Why?

    Why would a chiropractic physician who in considered a primary care physician in all 50 states want to get a DPT and add a degree that doesn't allow you any more scope (and even less of a scope of practice)?

    -M

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    There is a new program in Florida that is doing Doctor of Physical Therapy degrees that is flex-time

    http://www.usa.edu/flex.htm

    Some chiropractors are apparently being admitted into the program and you can inquire as to the possibility for admittance.
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    Good question...

    ..perhaps it might have to do with a "stigma" or stereotyping of the profession. To be honest with you, I have visited 3 chiro schools before; they have incredibly superior facilities and stronger basic sciences programs than most Caribbean medical schools. But, I don't write the laws, I just read them.




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    Why would a chiropractic physician who in considered a primary care physician in all 50 states want to get a DPT and add a degree that doesn't allow you any more scope (and even less of a scope of practice)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genossa maximillian
    ..perhaps it might have to do with a "stigma" or stereotyping of the profession. To be honest with you, I have visited 3 chiro schools before; they have incredibly superior facilities and stronger basic sciences programs than most Caribbean medical schools. But, I don't write the laws, I just read them.
    Insurance companies are basically setting up deals with a few chiropractors, letting them get paid $10/visit which limits other chiropractors. PT's aren't limited in visits and Doctorates give them the ability to write prescriptions for physical therapy.
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    DC primary care?

    Quote Originally Posted by MitchDC
    Why would a chiropractic physician who in considered a primary care physician in all 50 states want to get a DPT and add a degree that doesn't allow you any more scope (and even less of a scope of practice)?

    -M
    DC being a primary care doctors? That's news to me. They are considered to be on par with PTs the most in NY and NJ. The only professions who qualify to be PCPs are MD,DO,NP,PA.

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    The only reason I can see a DC wanting to get a DPT degree is for better payment by insurance companies. The better route in my oppinion would be to change the current laws. We are working on that here in the state of Missouri. Soon we will have laws that require insurance companies to pay DCs at the same rate as MDs for the same service.
    PTs have fought for years in Missouri to have direct access with patients and were always denied because they MDs, DOs, and DCs opposed it on the basis they are not trained to diagnose. This is why the PTs are pushing for the DPT.
    As far as DCs being PCPs, that is an insurance designation on who and who can not be one. Chiropractors are licensed in all 50 states to see patients without a referal from an MD or DO. However some insurance companies require it before they will pay. And as alway - Follow the Money!

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    PCP: this is your primary care physician so unless a chiro can diagnose, treat the plethora of medical conditions outside the spine how does that qualify them to be a primary provider of any medical services?

    hell, they can't even agree on what where a subluxation is how can they move on to more complicated matters?...hehe

    also why would they pay DC same rate as an MD/DO/NP/PA? their scope of practice is much more limited in areas of preventive care or anything related to primary care matters...

    they should be paid for what they are, specialists. trouble is that the chiro schools are putting out so many DC's they have to set up booths in a mall to get some patients and there just aren't enough of them to go around. maybe they should shut off the tap for a while and let the professionb regain some credibility, loose the free mall booths, and find direction again?

    so even though they are specialists they get treated and paid like allied health because the market is super saturated with them....
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    Rrod, thanks for the last post

    Hi,
    I am a Chiropractor. We are not primary care doctors. We are "portal of entry" physicians according to state laws. That simply means we need to be able to differentially diagnose within our scope of practice and can make referrals to other physicians. Many of us probably, after years of experience and continued education, including with patients, could be very competent FP's.

    But I have a question. I very much identified with your comments about over saturation and mall booths. It is degrading. I feel the reason for chiropractors having ot hunt patients down is slightly more complex, wrapped up in the current insurance economics of the lack of proper utilization of chiropractic in teh majority of back pain patients. Many chiropractic politicians are working on that.

    MY QUESTION: Does anyone here know of a valid path for a conscientious chiropractor to travel into medicine. I'd really like to be a Physchiatrist, and would love to skip re-doing the basic sciences. I am evaluating all of yoru posts on UHSA. But is there another path you can reccomend that anyone here can begin to endorse? (where basic science credit is given)

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