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    Is Your Chiropractor Safe? Accreditor Admits 12% of Chiropractors Are Unqualified

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    asasas

    thats y all this chiropactors get a carribbean md....they wanna b real docs

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    Update- Accreditor Implicated in Chiropractic College Overutilization Scam, Hearing

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    Accreditor Implicated in Chiropractic College Overutilization Scam, Faces Hearing with US Department of Education

    The Council on Chiropractic Education (CCE), the professional accrediting body for every chiropractic professional school in the United States, has been summoned to an upcoming meeting of the U.S. Department of Education to answer questions regarding several unaddressed complaints which pertain to its renewal of recognition with the agency.

    Washington, DC (PRWEB) May 18, 2006 -- The Council on Chiropractic Education (CCE), the sole accrediting body for all chiropractic schools in the United States, faces possible loss of recognition by the U.S. Department of Education (USDOE) arising from its handling of three open complaints pertaining to chiropractic schools accredited by the agency.

    The first two complaints were filed in 2003 by the Council of New Jersey Chiropractors (CNJC) and Doctors for Excellence in Chiropractic Education (DECE). In the DECE complaint USDOE found that CCE failed to provide information requested by CNJC and had several conflicts of interest in its Board of Directors which had interfered with accreditation decisions. The outcome of the second complaint by CNJC has not yet been determined.

    The third and most serious complaint was filed in 2004 by a 1996 graduate of the Life University College of Chiropractic named ***** Botnick from Plainfield, NJ. Dr. Botnick established that CCE violated USDOE accreditation requirements by not investigating his complaint in a fair and timely manner after nine months had passed without the agency taking action on a complaint pertaining to Life University in Marietta, Georgia. The complaint detailed numerous violations at the school including: the use of anti-medical propaganda in course texts, unapproved diagnosis procedures, exaggeration of the benefits of chiropractic care, overutilization of x-rays, inadequate clinical experiences, unqualified faculty and the promotion of unethical practice management procedures. After discovering the problems Dr. Botnick surrendered all chiropractic licenses. He refuses to practice, stating that his education did not teach him to identify and treat patient complaints in a safe, effective and ethical manner...
    There's more on the site. Check out the attached documents. Please distribute-patients are dying!

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    I guess....

    .... you can find out after he cracks your neck.

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    I'm just curious where the outrage over MD "quackery" is. While I do agree with Mr. skeptic's points about the whackjobs that "practice" chiropractic medicine, I've seen my share of allopaths that are far from ethical, honest or for that matter are good physicians.

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    How many people have been killed as a direct result of a chiropractic manipulation?

    Last time I checked, 1999, less than one hundred people had been killed as a direct result of a chiropractic manipulation since it's inception in 1895.

    Medical mistakes kill more people/year than chiropractic has in over 100 years!! True, MDs treat more complicated conditions but there are a lot of iatrogenic deaths/year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kanson View Post
    Jakeislove,

    You have a good point. I came across this disturbing news on yahoo just now before coming to valuemd. 22,000 died amid delayed Bayer drug recall: doctor - Yahoo! News
    In just one year 22,000 people died from the use of Bayer. This is just one incident. Just add all the other MD iatrogenic deaths/year and it would be probably in the hundreds of thousands. I am not siding with anyone here, but just looking at the facts. However, I still think natural alternatives is the the safest way. Good luck.
    Comparing the morbidity and mortality rate btw MD and DC is as much sense as comparing President Bush's brain capacity to Albert Eistein. First of all the high moratality rate in MD, because we actually have to deal with real significant injuries like: Gun shot wounds, septic shock, late stage cancers, complicated infectious disease (HIV), and etc... Mean what lifethreating diseases do DC have to deal with? Please someone informs me on this. I jz love how DC wants to bring out the mortality and morbidity in MD when they have no idea what the responsibilities of being a REAL DOCTOR! Making life and death decisions in matter of seconds or minutes. Just clean up your profession and stop going to outdoor markets for spinal screening before you compare your morditity and mortality rate to REAL DOCTORS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunteradam07 View Post
    Comparing the morbidity and mortality rate btw MD and DC is as much sense as comparing President Bush's brain capacity to Albert Eistein. First of all the high moratality rate in MD, because we actually have to deal with real significant injuries like: Gun shot wounds, septic shock, late stage cancers, complicated infectious disease (HIV), and etc... Mean what lifethreating diseases do DC have to deal with? Please someone informs me on this. I jz love how DC wants to bring out the mortality and morbidity in MD when they have no idea what the responsibilities of being a REAL DOCTOR! Making life and death decisions in matter of seconds or minutes. Just clean up your profession and stop going to outdoor markets for spinal screening before you compare your morditity and mortality rate to REAL DOCTORS!
    So you're saying "real doctors" shouldn't have a lower mortality rate than fake ones?

    Can't remember where I put the stat but from 1895 to 1998 there were only 99 deaths attributed to a chiropract manipulation. That's pretty decent.

    I did a pretty decent job of qualifying that MDs treat more serious conditions but that really doesn't make the amount ot iatrogenic deaths go away.

    Only an idiot would say MD/DC educations are comparable. That's not my point at all. But you're far less likely to be seriously injured, harmed or misdrugged after a free lunch by a chiropractor. Especially considering that some of them might wave a crystal over you, LOL!

    Ironic. I just really became more active in vmed but really had no idea this level of 'bash anything that isn't an MD' really existed.

    Personally, even though there's always going to be a place for chiropractic, I still believe it is a dying art and a D.C. degree doesn't afford its holder the same opportunities as an M.D. That being said, an MD is much, much harder to earn and includes a residency afterwards. I still wouldn't trust any MD I've ever met to adjust C1.

    Be well. Have to study but will come back later to read how silly I am.

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    Well jz think what would this world do without MDs take care the sicks! Let see the mortality and morbidity then. Sure there are risk in any medication or procedure, but jz imagine the world without antibiotics, vaccine, or surgery hmmmm. I think already happened you dont have to imagine it, jz look at the history of the world and all those nice plague that killed millions of people remember; Chlorea, black death, and polio? Yet i cant remember anyone died from subluxated back either hmm. Maybe adjustment can cure polio too.

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