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    Going to NUHS in September. Crazy?

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    Hi all,

    I'm new here, and have read everything worth reading, and yes, I've actually decided to go to Chiropractic school. I know the pro's and con's, straight vs. mixers, subluxation vs. science.. I value real science more than anyone I know. Am I crazy for going to Chiropractic school?

    I'm PRAYING (well, hoping - you can't be religious if you value knowledge and science , that by the time I graduate, we will be winning the battle on advancing the scope of chiropractic medicine. I know there is every reason for me to be pessimistic about this. If there has been no progress, I will take classes part time to become a Nurse Practitioner. Problem solved! A Chiro who can actually Rx! (laws vary state-by-state for NP's, but in my state, their scope is indistinguishable from a primary care MD). Heck, if I didn't value my manhood, I'd probably just do that. I digress.

    When I graduate from chiro school, I am fortunate enough to have a well established practice making waiting for me to step right in, where I'll be making more than than the average DC.

    So, there it is. I'm going to National - the only school which is really leading the charge on pushing for a broad scope of practice. Am I nuts?
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    Going MD instead of DC BETTER & SMARTER CHOICE !!!

    I graduated from NUHS, as a Chiropractor, HOWEVER, my advice, save your $$$ and attend MD program, you will recover your loans MUCH MUCH FASTER !!! even while in residency, while MOST Chiropractors are struggling to make 40K per year....

    You can go to AUC for only 30K more and get your MD in same time, so my sincere advice from a NUHS graduate perspective, regardless of the fact that NUHS has STRONG Basic sciences, however their clinical science dept is HUGELY LACKING to say the least in comparison to MD clinicals....

    Save your $$$ and go to Medical school (MD or DO)

    Good luck and I hope you make an informed decision !!

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    double post
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    Am I nuts?
    Na. I'll see you in eight weeks.


    I have been a DC student at National for a year and a half now, so if you have any questions about anything the school, classes, teachers, the area, send me a PM. And remember, this is probably going to be way more difficult than you expect. Unless you put at least 6 hours a day of studying and go to every lecture, you aint gonna make it. A lot of students roll their eyes when people tell them that before starting the DC program here. Those are the people that went home after the first semester and no one at the school has seen them since. Don't be one of them, take it very seriously. You have been warned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AgActual View Post
    Na. I'll see you in eight weeks.


    I have been a DC student at National for a year and a half now, so if you have any questions about anything the school, classes, teachers, the area, send me a PM. And remember, this is probably going to be way more difficult than you expect. Unless you put at least 6 hours a day of studying and go to every lecture, you aint gonna make it. A lot of students roll their eyes when people tell them that before starting the DC program here. Those are the people that went home after the first semester and no one at the school has seen them since. Don't be one of them, take it very seriously. You have been warned.
    So let's see.. Class 9-5 every day, year round, for 3 1/3 years, to be perceived as a quack and "not a real doctor", hearing patients say "how long do you have to go to school to be a chiropractor?" me: "after 4 years of undergrad, it's an additional 3.5 years, year round." patient: "oh, so it's like almost the same as a real doctor?" (real convo I had with a patient while interning with a chiro).

    Man, now I'm torn and second guessing myself.

    Question: Do Osteopathic schools have rolling admission (year-round), or only in the fall? I know carribean MD schools have year-round admission, but I'd prefer staying in the US if I can get into a DO program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiropractic Must Change! View Post
    So let's see.. Class 9-5 every day, year round, for 3 1/3 years, to be perceived as a quack and "not a real doctor", hearing patients say "how long do you have to go to school to be a chiropractor?" me: "after 4 years of undergrad, it's an additional 3.5 years, year round." patient: "oh, so it's like almost the same as a real doctor?" (real convo I had with a patient while interning with a chiro).

    Man, now I'm torn and second guessing myself.

    Question: Do Osteopathic schools have rolling admission (year-round), or only in the fall? I know carribean MD schools have year-round admission, but I'd prefer staying in the US if I can get into a DO program.

    Look if your heart isn't in to it, don't do it. National is a solid school and a graduate of the school can stand toe to toe with any MD or DO when it comes to dealing with non-surgical MSK care. If you want to be a DC and you want to practice it right, come to National. But if you are full of doubt and overwhelmed with concern then you will be regretting your decision everyday. Most DC's make a decent living and properly trained chiropractors can truly help people, and earn the respect of their patients. But if you still see too many downsides, there are many other health care fields to get into. If you want to learn manipulation but chiropractic isn't for you, become a DO or DPT. Both are great professionals, as well.

    But really think about it. Don't rush into anything, whether it is chiropractic school, osteopathic school, med school, whatever. I bet you are young, you have time. Give it a few months, a year, year and a half. Really figure out what you want and find a career where you will be happy and where you can help people. ss All of these professions will still be here when you figure it out.

    And to answer your question about DO schools, it appears some do have rolling admissions and some don't. I'm not sure which ones do but a quick search of the SDN forums seems to show that there are a few DO schools that have it. Going over there might help you with your questions about osteopathy.

    http://forums.studentdoctor.net/forumdisplay.php?f=13



    Best of luck to you.
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    So many people are not informed about Chiro education. If you don't have thick skin and a lot of patience maybe it isn't the best choice for you. We have discussed the Real doctor thing before somewhere on here. That is an overshadowing of the major medical organizations opinion of chiropractors. You will get that a lot because of the public perception of chiro. The point is we are doctors; just like J.D., Ed.D., Pharm.D. and other first professional degree holders. In the public's eyes the word doctor is synonymous with Medical Doctor. Chiro's are still doctors, just not medical doctors. And there are alot of idiot DC's out there that make the profession look bad. The point is to realize what a chiropractors scope of practice is and stay within it. Like AgActual said most evidence based DC's earn the respect of their patients, MD's/ DO's and their communities. So it will be what you make of it.

    This has got to be a personal decision not a consensus of our opinions. At the end of the day, you are accountable to yourself. Are you going to regret your decision, or will you love what you're doing? I made that decision a year or so ago; that's what we all have to ask ourselves. Do what you will love doing and you will never go wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiropractic Must Change! View Post
    So let's see.. Class 9-5 every day, year round, for 3 1/3 years, to be perceived as a quack and "not a real doctor", hearing patients say "how long do you have to go to school to be a chiropractor?" me: "after 4 years of undergrad, it's an additional 3.5 years, year round." patient: "oh, so it's like almost the same as a real doctor?" (real convo I had with a patient while interning with a chiro).

    Man, now I'm torn and second guessing myself.

    Question: Do Osteopathic schools have rolling admission (year-round), or only in the fall? I know carribean MD schools have year-round admission, but I'd prefer staying in the US if I can get into a DO program.
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    go for it and good luck!

    p.s. not the best forum on chiropractic advice

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    Forget Chiropractic go to Osteopathic or Medical school !!!

    Believe me, Chiropractic is on a rapid down slope, most MDs (99%) don't think highly of your 3-4 years education at Chiro-college, and have no idea of the differnces (Palmer vs. National etc...) also treat DCs as Massage therapists with 3 months of education.....

    The Chiropractic profession has no credibility nor is accepted as a mainstream profession !

    I will repeat it for the last time on this blog, I am a DC graduate from a reputable DC school (NUHS-4 years program, and one of the FEW Evidence based/science based DC programs internationally) graduate with honors, HOWEVER, there is NO money in the profession of Chiropractic, and in order for you to make a $$$ you are going to work as a used car salesman. I spent over 150K on my DC education and 4 years of my life, luckily woke up soon enough to make a switch to Medicine...No comparison.....you will make 60K as R1, and after Residency potential income is at least 200K....VERY secure profession..

    If you enjoy body work, or Manipulation I would encourage you to consider DO programs, currently at least 20 accredited programs nationwide and average class size is 200....while most DC collleges are STRUGGLING with enrollments issues, many are actually CLOSING down, due to lack of students....When I was in NUHS, our DC class size was around 40 DC students, on my graduation there were 36 DCs.....A FAR CRY from my MD class at AUC which was over 100 MDs !!!

    Do your research NOT only on DC schools, but on the CHIROPRACTIC Profession as a whole and watch some Two and a half men as a side kick

    Good luck !!


    Quote Originally Posted by Chiropractic Must Change! View Post
    So let's see.. Class 9-5 every day, year round, for 3 1/3 years, to be perceived as a quack and "not a real doctor", hearing patients say "how long do you have to go to school to be a chiropractor?" me: "after 4 years of undergrad, it's an additional 3.5 years, year round." patient: "oh, so it's like almost the same as a real doctor?" (real convo I had with a patient while interning with a chiro).

    Man, now I'm torn and second guessing myself.

    Question: Do Osteopathic schools have rolling admission (year-round), or only in the fall? I know carribean MD schools have year-round admission, but I'd prefer staying in the US if I can get into a DO program.

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    First of all, I think the 99% is highly overinflated. I personally know quite a few MD's who respect a good evidence based DC. Secondly, Many MD's are not opposed to chiro they are just ignorant about chiro, So educate them. Third look at the number of chiropractors across the US vs the number of MD's; there are alot more MD's. Always have, always will. That has nothing to do with whether or not chiropractic is failing. The number of graduates has not changed with most schools. Only one school has closed its doors recently, and that is Cleveland LA, and the reason is simple economics. there are alot of chiro schools in that area and the market share for the LA campus wasn't large enough to warrant keeping it open. Also all the students at that school either went to a nearby school or moved to kansas city. So the number of students did not change.

    Although some of what you say is true, I disagree with you on some points. I respect the opinions of everybody here, but try not to quote your opinions as facts unless you can provide irrefutable data.

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