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    Hello Everyone, I wanted to ask if anyone here knew anything about the transfer process into CMU. I am planning to give them a call this week but I just wanted to have a heads up as to what it is like. Currently I am studying for the Step 1 examination and have already finished the basic science review course and passed the preclinical rotation semester 5 at my current school. I wanted to know if anyone has an idea of whether CMU directly sponsors transfer students for step 1 or do they make students redo their semester 5? Any information would be appreciated. Thank you.

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    From what I understand they do sponsor you once you are enrolled as a student, but, I think you will be asked to take an NBME exam at a testing center to show that you are ready for the exam. Now, this is not one of those NBME exams that you get online at the NBME website, from what I understand it is made up of new questions not old retired questions. Regarding the transfer process it will be very simple, once you have your transcripts sent in, applications filled out, interviewed, fees paid, and documents and information verified you should be on your way. At the website there is a link to chat with a rep during business hours and they are very helpful with answering questions. Good luck, I'm currently in clinicals so if I can answer any questions, let me know.

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    Hey man thanks for the information. I actually took the nbme basic science comp with my current school at a pro metric center and I received a 70. Do you know if CMU has a certain passing score for the nmbe in order to sit for step 1? I also wanted to ask how are clinicals going in terms of (scheduling, placement, quality of rotations etc)? I was reading some other threads on this forum and some people were saying some negative things about cmu. I know we should take everything said with a grain of salt but is there any hint of truth so far with your experiences with the school. Anyways man whenever your free whatever information you could provide would be appreciated. Thanks man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oddjob View Post
    Hey man thanks for the information. I actually took the nbme basic science comp with my current school at a pro metric center and I received a 70. Do you know if CMU has a certain passing score for the nmbe in order to sit for step 1? I also wanted to ask how are clinicals going in terms of (scheduling, placement, quality of rotations etc)? I was reading some other threads on this forum and some people were saying some negative things about cmu. I know we should take everything said with a grain of salt but is there any hint of truth so far with your experiences with the school. Anyways man whenever your free whatever information you could provide would be appreciated. Thanks man.
    No a problem. This NBME test thing is sort of a new requirement. If I remember correctly for Step 2 CK they told us that if the passing score is 203 then we needed to score a few points above that, I think it was 213. So whatever the passing score is for Step 1 you would have to score about 10 points above it in the NBME in order to qualify for the real exam.

    Regarding clinicals, my experience with it has been positive. I have always been scheduled quickly into the rotations I choose; the quality of the rotation really depends on what the student wants, the clinical director will ask you if you want an easy, medium or difficult rotation, the more difficult ones tend to be the best because you are with your preceptor most of the week, seeing patients, most teach you on a daily basis, and you get to ask and learn about what you see on a daily basis. I have not taken any easy ones but I have heard of some rotations where you only attend like 2 times a week, and there tends to be several students in the same rotation some students choose these because they get to sit around and study (not good IMO if you really want to learn). I have only met one student here in Chicago who was having difficulties with the school but, that student was having a lot of financial problems and was not meeting his/her end of the deal with payments.

    I'm sure you already know that this school is young, and to me the people running it seem to be very smart, doctors themselves, some who have gone through the same thing you are going through right now. It would be crazy for them to start giving students a hard time, making it difficult for them to perform well, or hindering their chances of entering Residency by giving you messed up clinical rotations. Poor scores, poor residency matches, excessive drop out rates - that would end up destroying the school and it just doesn't make any sense. But, don't forget that just like every other school you have looked into, these are businesses and they will always be looking to protect their interests. As long as they meet their end of the contract and we meet ours then I think we can make it out of here successfully. Let me know if I missed something, cool?

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    Hey man, thanks for your reply. It was quite thorough. I don't think you missed anything and I definitely will give CMU a call this week. I'll let you know how it goes.

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    Hey oddjob:

    Let me know if you have other question. I transferred into the school myself, so I can hopefully answer specifics. The school does let you sit for step 1. Each transfer case is independent of each other, so it is important you don't miss out on details when talking to the school. I didn't have to repeat MD5 and transferred in. I love clinicals and I am very happy here in Chicago. I like the fact all we have to do is worry about tuition and not setting up rotations on our own. I know a lot of other Caribbean schools that rotate in the city have to do their own paperwork and setup the rotation themselves. Luckily, CMU students don't have to worry about. Setting up a rotation just involves sending an email to the clinical dept.

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    Hey thanks for the information cadmd4. Right now I do not have any further questions but I will let you know if I do. Take care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadmd4 View Post
    Hey oddjob:

    Let me know if you have other question. I transferred into the school myself, so I can hopefully answer specifics. The school does let you sit for step 1. Each transfer case is independent of each other, so it is important you don't miss out on details when talking to the school. I didn't have to repeat MD5 and transferred in. I love clinicals and I am very happy here in Chicago. I like the fact all we have to do is worry about tuition and not setting up rotations on our own. I know a lot of other Caribbean schools that rotate in the city have to do their own paperwork and setup the rotation themselves. Luckily, CMU students don't have to worry about. Setting up a rotation just involves sending an email to the clinical dept.
    I'm glad to have found this thread. I am contemplating transferring in to CMU for 5th semester. I'm not sure if you know the answer to this, since you stated that each transfer case is treated on an individual basis (as it should be), but I would have to take a few exams to make up for some deficient grades from my last school. I've been told they are NBME shelf exams for those respective classes: do you know what the passing score required is and *if* I don't pass, could I retake the exams again later?

    I know I get to sign up for a Step 1 prep course of my choosing (so long as it falls on their approved list) but I wondered how the school approves you for Step after the course ends. Do you have to merely pass the diagnostic the course gives you or do you have to fly to Chicago to take some standardized exam (maybe NBME comp)?

    Lastly, since you're already in rotations, are all the hospitals listed on the CMU website really available to CMU students? Some schools list more schools than they're actually affiliated with (or the website is just out of date). Do you know how big each class is (i.e. how many students are you competing with for a spot in your 6th semester)?

    Thank you so much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lola18 View Post
    I'm glad to have found this thread. I am contemplating transferring in to CMU for 5th semester. I'm not sure if you know the answer to this, since you stated that each transfer case is treated on an individual basis (as it should be), but I would have to take a few exams to make up for some deficient grades from my last school. I've been told they are NBME shelf exams for those respective classes: do you know what the passing score required is and *if* I don't pass, could I retake the exams again later?

    I know I get to sign up for a Step 1 prep course of my choosing (so long as it falls on their approved list) but I wondered how the school approves you for Step after the course ends. Do you have to merely pass the diagnostic the course gives you or do you have to fly to Chicago to take some standardized exam (maybe NBME comp)?

    Lastly, since you're already in rotations, are all the hospitals listed on the CMU website really available to CMU students? Some schools list more schools than they're actually affiliated with (or the website is just out of date). Do you know how big each class is (i.e. how many students are you competing with for a spot in your 6th semester)?

    Thank you so much!
    Hi Lola18:

    I will try my best to answer your questions in order. I think there is some confusion. If you transfer into MD 5 then you would have to take whatever basic sciences courses you are missing. Upon completion of the basic sciences portion and usmle step 1 prep. Students must sit for an NBME at a prometric center (the testing venue you select). It takes 1 month to schedule this exam. Upon a passing grade of 470 on th NBME- approx 210 you can register for the real exam. If you don't pass this NBME exam you can retake it.


    The shelf exams you are talking about are taken at the end of each core rotation. These are taken only 1 time. Passing grade varies with rotation depending on rotation grade breakdown (shelf exam, case write ups, logs, etc..)

    Yes the hospitals listed on the website accord to the actual rotations.Mind you, i am basing this from my experience in Chicago. What do yo mean how big each class is? For basic sciences i know around 160 started this fall term. Once you start rotations,the class size change.Students split up by state and vary with their clinical time line so as to when they want to finish rotations, complete step 2 cs/ck and apply for match. My graduating class 2015 will have close to 80 students.

    I hope that addressess your questions!

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