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    To all ValueMD users writing negative posts on our forum:
    1. CMU will operate no matter how many negative posts you'll write, so don't waste your time, focus on your study and become good doctors.
    2. CMU is a legit school with the ability to provide excellent education, clinical rotations and prepare its students to pass USMLE. The time will show.
    3. No other Caribbean medical school had such a good start as CMU, some started in barracks, some in garage, and some in hotels or small shopping malls. After years of operations they are still there.
    4. CMU is located on amazing, student friendly island, in great facilities, unlike many others has dorms, a lot of available clinical rotations, access to local labs and hospitals, affordable tuition, scholarships and many more advantages over older schools.
    5. The strength of CMU is its students, faculty members, administration and we are very proud of them.
    6. We have started a month ago so don’t expect that everything will be perfect at the beginning. Give us some time.
    7. I personally thing that the all the negative posts come from people who are afraid of CMU, otherwise no one would bother to spend so much time and energy to badmouth our school. It just shows their weakness.
    8. We appreciate all the productive comments about the areas that we need to improve. We will do it ASAP, but 90% of the posts are just inductive, dishonest, black PR and unfair.
    9. We don’t badmouth other schools and are just fairly competing with them.
    10. I think ValueMD is supposed to be a place to exchange valueble information about medical career and the way some of its users behave makes me doubt they will ever become doctors. Please show that you're professionals. Therefore I will not respond to any unfair allegations because we have much more other important things to do than replying to those posts.

    Good luck to all of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diogenes View Post
    Firstly, CMU is not unique in this respect. I see that SABA has similar status and so does St. James; there may be more.
    St. James is N.V /corporation/, I don’t know about Saba tough but I think is N.V. as well. The difference is that foundation cannot have profit and doesn’t have shareholders or owners, unlike N.V or B.V. This results that after 6 years of operation St. James still rents its main building for $300 per month since the entire profit stays in Chicago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rlewkowski View Post
    St. James is N.V /corporation/, I donít know about Saba tough but I think is N.V. as well. The difference is that foundation cannot have profit and doesnít have shareholders or owners, unlike N.V or B.V. This results that after 6 years of operation St. James still rents its main building/looking like a barrack/ for $300 per month since the entire profit stays in Chicago.
    is it professional to directly criticise another school, if you're an official of one school?

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    It’s not criticizing, its just basic information. Is it unprofessional to say that CMU doesn’t have any graduates? Is it unprofessional to say that other schools are business corporations or rent main school building for $300/month? I don’t think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rlewkowski View Post
    St. James is N.V /corporation/, I donít know about Saba tough but I think is N.V. as well. The difference is that foundation cannot have profit and doesnít have shareholders or owners, unlike N.V or B.V. This results that after 6 years of operation St. James still rents its main building/looking like a barrack/ for $300 per month since the entire profit stays in Chicago.
    Saba's own website describes the school as a 'nonprofit foundation'.
    As for St. James, I'm afraid I broke one of my own cardinal rules and passed on something I read on vmd without verifying it first

    I'm glad that we agree that there are no profit-leeching shareholders in a nonprofit foundation. That much is fairly obvious.
    However, it is still quite disingenuous (or naive) of you to use this legal status in the way that you do (on 4 separate occasions). Foundations may generate a revenue surplus (profit, in plain English). They may pay very generous salaries to their employees (and to their 'consultants'). They are not immune to failure through foolish management and even greed.
    Conversely, a 'for profit' corporation may invest wisely, ploughing profits back into the business, keeping its shareholders waiting for a payback until its future is secure and its customers/clients highly satisfied with the product.
    I would agree with you that there are examples of Caribbean schools whose shareholders took the money and ran. On the other hand most of the largest and most prestigious schools are run on a commercial basis: they have excellent facilities and broadly satisfied customers.
    What matters in both models is the quality of the business plan and management.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rlewkowski View Post
    Itís not criticizing, its just basic information. Is it unprofessional to say that CMU doesnít have any graduates? Is it unprofessional to say that other schools are business corporations or rent main school building for $300/month? I donít think so.
    but what you put in your OP was that it resembled 'barracks'. this is your opinion - and one that I took to be negative.

    - I've seen pics of it - and while it ain't as pretty as some - its also quite adequate to teach class in. The class rooms at CMU seem quite similarly equipped in fact.

    I find it a bit abhorrent that one school official is targetting another SPECIFIC school and using them as an inferior example - quoting your opinion of the other school's appearance.

    the difference between what you're doing and what other people in this thread have done is that you, sir, are an official representative of CMU. Your opinion will hold sway with your students - and your opinion represents the image of the school as a whole.

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    i got news for you; med schools are for profit in the us. the issue isnt for profit or not. its quality and do they give you what they promise or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by socalheli View Post
    who cares what the real reason the school was established, as an official you dont go on a public forum and say that another school is bad. you go on here and and say that the school was established because you want to help the medical field........(fill in the rest with your mission statement)

    the lies i am referring to are the plagiarism, and the documents that people have asked you to produce regarding the schools ability to issue degrees.

    all i am saying is that CMU needs to do the right thing and establish their image.

    also, are you an employee of the school? or is the school a client of yours? please disclose your full ties to the school.

    thanks
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