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    ek_civic is offline Newbie 510 points
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    Should I write the Canadian Boards?

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    Hi, All

    I am a Foreign Medical Graduate who applied for Family Medicine in the U.S.A. I did not get a single interview and hence did not match. Since I am Canadian and currently living in toronto, I am debating whether or not to do the Canadian Boards, and am wondering if it is worth the time and effort? I know how difficult things are.

    I have done USMLE Step 1, 2CK and 2CS but have not done step 3. I graduated 3 years ago and am currently working and volunteering as a physician assistant in a medical office.

    I honestly don't know much about the process of registering for the exams and am trying to look into it.

    If anyone would like to chat, or provide any insight, please PM. I would appreciate the help.
    Last edited by ek_civic; 12-24-2016 at 11:30 AM.

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    If you are in Ontario I would suggest signing up with Health Force Ontario. They provide counseling on the process and can give recent stats on the people who matched. In other provinces there are similar organizations but you need to do your research and find the right organization. The process is entirely free and, at least in Ontario, you will be assigned to a counselor who would guide you through the application, exams, and match process.

    It is competitive in Canada but what will determine whether you get an interview and ultimately match are your scores on the evaluating and the Nac-OSCE exams. Another factor is the recency of your medical education. The longer you have been out of school the less likely that you will even get an interview. Most programs in Canada have a cut off of two years post graduation from medical school but outstanding candidates with good scores have matched within three or fours post graduation. This requirement somewhat varies depending on the province but two years seems to be the bench mark.

    If you are thinking about giving Canada a shot, I recommend you take the required exams quickly since you have already been out of school for three years and time is not on your side.

    Assuming good scores on the exams, a letter of recommendation from a Canadian preceptor is valued highly by programs but the letter must be from a doctor who supervised you during clinical rotations if you did any Canadian electives. Otherwise they won't consider a letter from any other Canadian sources .

    You should review the Canada Match website as it has a lot of information, including the basic program requirements. These rules change frequently and there is no guarantee that what you read this year will still be applicable in subsequent years.

    Lastly, the US exams mean nothing in Canada and the Canadian scores are the main drivers in the match for IMGs.

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    The Canadian match, numbers-wise, is even tougher than the US... but you have the right passport, so that should help some in addition to the timely advice from Med grad above.

    Note: I would honestly highly recommend removing your telephone number from your posting, just to be on the safe side. The internet is not a friendly place and that information could be used for nefarious purposes. Ask people to PM you, and if you feel you can trust them then share it in a private forum. Just my .02.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildoc8404 View Post
    The Canadian match, numbers-wise, is even tougher than the US... but you have the right passport, so that should help some in addition to the timely advice from Med grad above.

    Note: I would honestly highly recommend removing your telephone number from your posting, just to be on the safe side. The internet is not a friendly place and that information could be used for nefarious purposes. Ask people to PM you, and if you feel you can trust them then share it in a private forum. Just my .02.

    Thanks.both.for.your.responses. If any of you are willing to chat, please pm me

    i will be removing my phone number from the thread.

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    You can post your questions and I will answer. This way others in similar circumstances or with similar questions would hopefully benefit from responses by me or others.
    Quote Originally Posted by ek_civic View Post
    Thanks.both.for.your.responses. If any of you are willing to chat, please pm me

    i will be removing my phone number from the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ek_civic View Post
    Hi, All

    I am a Foreign Medical Graduate who applied for Family Medicine in the U.S.A. I did not get a single interview and hence did not match. Since I am Canadian and currently living in toronto, I am debating whether or not to do the Canadian Boards, and am wondering if it is worth the time and effort? I know how difficult things are.

    I have done USMLE Step 1, 2CK and 2CS but have not done step 3. I graduated 3 years ago and am currently working and volunteering as a physician assistant in a medical office.

    I honestly don't know much about the process of registering for the exams and am trying to look into it.

    If anyone would like to chat, or provide any insight, please PM. I would appreciate the help.

    My advice would be to write the canadian boards. If you are not on a rotation and just volunteering then you should be able to dedicate time to study for the exams you need and do well. I suggest getting involved with people directly involved in the decision making process for selecting residents; one method that usually works is becoming involved in research they are doing. Volunteering as a physician assistant is better than nothing but may not be helping you very much.

    Getting into canada for residency is hard, but they have to select someone. You have to demonstrate that you are better than other applicants. This usually involves working hard and going the "extra mile", which sadly many are not willing to do.

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    Hey guys,

    My advice would be the same as well. If you are not on a rotation and just volunteering then you should be able to dedicate time to becoming involved in research they are doing.

    Here are some tips to score high on your exams:
    When you apply for a position, the board of interviewers goes through your record and checks how many times you have taken the exam and what were your previous performances like. The Medical Council of Canada’s Evaluating Examination is a mandatory test that all prospective medical practitioners who intend to work in Canada must pass and getting great scores during the first attempt shows that you read and pick up science very fast and your intuition for medicine is well trained.


    1) Familiarise yourself with the objectives & tested topics: Use the Objectives for the Qualifying Examination as a guideline for preparing study guides and resource material.These parameters have been specifically identified by the MCC as key attributes and topics that medical students should master in order to provide outstanding care. The objectives are a framework for teh exams, and they are free to access on the MCC’s website.

    2) Make a schedule for studying and stick to it. Create a timeline for the topics you wish to cover in a given amount of time, and be sure to throw in a few extra days for review of previously covered material. Organized studying generally leads to a more proficient understanding of the content.

    3) Take advantage of third party resources like CanadaQBank and Toronto notes. The majority of successful test-takers report that the Toronto Notes are the most comprehensive and thorough for MCCQE studying. There is also a plethora of high yield MCQs on CanadaQBank (read their testimonials) with more than 3900 questions geared toward the Evaluating Examination which are based around the exam topics tested by the MCCQE. The ideal time to master this qbank is 3 months, make sure you familiarize yourself with the topics and questions on the qbank. If you need a discount code, use “institute2019c” to get a 20% discount. LMCC Exams is another online source for questions that are designed similarly to those you might see on the official test, but I prefre CQB because most of these MCQs were actually on the etest, this is one qbank I would highly recommend.

    4) Familiarize yourself with the test format, question style, and also time limits. Also be aware of the specific energy requirements for actually participating in the test itself. You will need to time yourself and observe your attentiopn span and stamina over time, I use the question bank to time practice on the MCQs. Knowing what to expect before you take the test will help to reduce any unnecessary stress and anxiety.

    5) Practice self-testing and follow up to your results. Try out several different types of practice exams and be sure to review your results thoroughly. Taking the time to analyze your mistakes will surely help you from making them in the future. Dont dwell too much on silly mistakes, you will get them wrong, so allocate 5% to silly mistakes, now focus on topics you need to get better at.

    6) Give yourself plenty of time to master the qbanks and toronto notes. Many successful students report spending at least 7-10 months, sometimes more, fully dedicated to studying for the MCCQE. Not to mention, registering for this exam is not cheap. Avoid wasting your money by ensuring that you are as prepared as possible before you enter on test day. Master the Canadaqbank questions, its imperative. For the record, some people only spend 2-3 months preparing for the exam on CQB, but if you are feeling rusty on any of the topics, it’s always better to be safe than sorry!

    7) When taking the test, relax, breathe and pay attention to the question. Many folks report that MCQs on the MCCQE can be vague and somewhat difficult to understand. One of the best ways to concentrate is to actually leave these questions for the last and get back to them when you have more time. Don’t let complex sentence structure throw you off from the primary aspect of timed performance.

    If you follow these seven tips, you will have a much greater chance of obtaining a high score on the MCCQE! Best of Luck!
    Last edited by thunderbolt1409; 04-18-2019 at 06:45 AM.

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    I am General Internits in AUSTRALIA and planning on taking 2019 spring RCPSC IM Fellowship exam so I'm looking for some help with preparation. As I'm in overseas I can't be part of a study group but I'm seeking to get some study materials for preparation.
    Can I buy oral scenario and board review materials from somewhere or will it be possible for you to share such materials if you have any even if for some fee?

    Is there any board review course for this exam that you can recommend?



    Appreciate your help,

    MUHAMMAD SHEIKH
    email:msheikh03@yahoo.com

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    I am General Internits in AUSTRALIA and planning on taking 2019 spring RCPSC IM Fellowship exam so I'm looking for some help with preparation. As I'm in overseas I can't be part of a study group but I'm seeking to get some study materials for preparation.
    Can I buy oral scenario and board review materials from somewhere or will it be possible for you to share such materials if you have any even if for some fee?

    Is there any board review course for this exam that you can recommend?

    I thought you might have more updated information

    Appreciate your help,

    MUHAMMAD SHEIKH
    email:msheikh03@yahoo.com

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