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    Is it TOO LATE to apply?

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    Hey Im a Canadian that graduated from a carib school a few months ago and have been working in research back here at home since then. Ive taken all 3 steps and was going to apply in the US only, just because of all the horror stories I heard from other canucks about Carms. Now I think, what the hell, I should apply here, better stay home than go back south. Its worth a try. The only problem is, Its already Oct and I still havent taken any of the exams. Moreover, I dont know the process down pat either, I rather ask than make mistakes.

    What should I do? Please advise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telomere View Post
    Hey Im a Canadian that graduated from a carib school a few months ago and have been working in research back here at home since then. Ive taken all 3 steps and was going to apply in the US only, just because of all the horror stories I heard from other canucks about Carms. Now I think, what the hell, I should apply here, better stay home than go back south. Its worth a try. The only problem is, Its already Oct and I still havent taken any of the exams. Moreover, I dont know the process down pat either, I rather ask than make mistakes.

    What should I do? Please advise.

    Thanks
    wait, you haven't taken ANY Canadian exams?? You need to get on that ASAP...the J1 visa (which, as a Canadian, I assume you will need), requires that you have taken at least the MCCEE (at least the last time I checked). You need to double-check the visa requirements and make sure you take those Canadian exams as soon as possible, and it's getting late for that as well. And don't give me that "I'm going for the H1B crap", the reality is, is that most residency programs don't sponsor it because it's expensive...
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    and in all reality, you probably won't be able to make the cutoffs for CaRMS if you haven't taken any of the exams....
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    You still need to write the MCCEE to get a letter of need for a J1 visa. You can still go ahead and write it during the November session in order to be eligible for a J1 visa and for the second iteration of CaRMS. It's too late to write the MCCEE for the first iteration of CaRMS. All the programs make a note to say that you must've written it during the September session in order to be eligible for the first iteration of CaRMS (most spots for IMGs are given out during the first iteration).

    Its still cutting it close to be able to write it November especially if you haven't done anything up to this point. You need to register and send the physicians registry of Canada and the medical council of Canada all the necessary documents i.e. notarized proof of citizenship, diploma, final transcript, etc etc. The whole process takes about a month. Not to mention you have to register for a token and do all the application stuff for CaRMS including getting all your letter of references in by the middle of Nov.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kananaskis_girl View Post
    wait, you haven't taken ANY Canadian exams?? You need to get on that ASAP...the J1 visa (which, as a Canadian, I assume you will need), requires that you have taken at least the MCCEE (at least the last time I checked). You need to double-check the visa requirements and make sure you take those Canadian exams as soon as possible, and it's getting late for that as well. And don't give me that "I'm going for the H1B crap", the reality is, is that most residency programs don't sponsor it because it's expensive...
    I really did think I would go for the H1 visa . I guess i am delusional!. thanks for the input guys... i looked it up, i dont think i can make the Nov MCCEE exam session. The studying part is not exactly the problem, but i think the paperwork required to be eligible would take a lot longer.

    I have a couple more questions... please just bear with me,

    1. By the time I arrange all the papers et al, would I still be eligible for the second iteration of Carms if I take the exam in the January session?

    2. If I dont participate in Carms, Can i still take the exam in Jan for J1?

    3. I was told people from Ontario didnt need these exams if theyve already taken the USMLE. Guess theyre wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by telomere View Post
    I really did think I would go for the H1 visa . I guess i am delusional!. thanks for the input guys... i looked it up, i dont think i can make the Nov MCCEE exam session. The studying part is not exactly the problem, but i think the paperwork required to be eligible would take a lot longer.

    I have a couple more questions... please just bear with me,

    1. By the time I arrange all the papers et al, would I still be eligible for the second iteration of Carms if I take the exam in the January session?

    2. If I dont participate in Carms, Can i still take the exam in Jan for J1?

    3. I was told people from Ontario didnt need these exams if theyve already taken the USMLE. Guess theyre wrong?
    dunno about 1, I was never going to ever apply for CaRMS, maybe someone else on here can comment on that. Or, you should be able to look up the timeline on the CaRMS website.

    yeah, I don't think you need to participate in CaRMS for the J1, as long as you have your scores in hand.

    not sure on 3, I'm from Alberta, you'll need to double check with the governing bodies or someone else on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Can2carib View Post
    You still need to write the MCCEE to get a letter of need for a J1 visa. You can still go ahead and write it during the November session in order to be eligible for a J1 visa and for the second iteration of CaRMS. It's too late to write the MCCEE for the first iteration of CaRMS. All the programs make a note to say that you must've written it during the September session in order to be eligible for the first iteration of CaRMS (most spots for IMGs are given out during the first iteration).

    Its still cutting it close to be able to write it November especially if you haven't done anything up to this point. You need to register and send the physicians registry of Canada and the medical council of Canada all the necessary documents i.e. notarized proof of citizenship, diploma, final transcript, etc etc. The whole process takes about a month. Not to mention you have to register for a token and do all the application stuff for CaRMS including getting all your letter of references in by the middle of Nov.
    I am applying for 2013 NRMP match and Need a J-1 visa sponsorship. Do you think writing MCCEE in Jan or Mar 2013 will be too late to apply for the J-1? thanks

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