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    Michael W.W. is offline Junior Member
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    Canadian student consdidering applying to an American medical schools

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    Hi,

    I am seriously considering applying to an American medical school but heard it is very difficult for Canadian students to get accepted. Does anyone know which American medical schools are the easiest to get into for Canadians? Does anyone know what a Canadian would need as a GPA and on his mcats to have a very good shot at an American school? If there are any Canadians who are currently attending or have attented an American medical school out there - I would really appreciate some input. What schools did you apply to? Why did you pick these schools? Are they know for accepting Canadians? I have a 85% at Queen's University after two years and will be taking the MCAT after third year. Does anyone know what my chances would be. I would rather save time and energy going down to the Caribbean right away if my chances at an American school are limited (Please note: don't want to apply to Canadian medical schools for various reasons). My final goal is to practice as an ER physician in the states.

    Thank you

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    Good on Ya

    Hi Michael,

    Very good questions indeed. Let me tell you my story and respond if it helps:

    MY STORY
    My undergrad GPA was 3.2, UWO Chem BSc. Post grad 3.6 and have been working 6 years. I am in the application phase, just turned 32 and have researched my options. Let me add as well, I'm sitting for MCAT in August (KAPLAN review a must).

    MY ADVICE
    Apply to the Caribbean ASAP (only 3-4 options here) and get pre-MCAT acceptance. Begin to prepare how (especially as a Canadian) you are going to obtain residency in the US, and only the US (that is where I got the "Good on Ya") Why. Simply because being a physician in the United States is much better than in Canada. You have a good chance at an American School if your GPA (85% = 3.5-4.0) includes all the pre-req courses and whether this is Basic Science material. If so, then think like me.

    Wait for the score on your MCAT!! If you score low (24) then you can forget about the US. The true reality is, that the average school only accepts 3-5% foreign applicants, (Canadians) so don't bank on anything.

    Having a degree first always helps.

    In conclusion, I would like to say the Caribbean is a great option.

    KDog

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    Bobbypols is offline Newbie
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    More specific please

    K dog, when u say a 3.5-4.0 gpa do u mean before or after we convert our gpa from canadian standards to those of american. i.e. 3.3 is a b+ in canada and b+ in canada is equivlant to 3.5 in that states.

    Thanks.

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    AMCAS-E

    Yes this is after conversion using the AMCAS-E scale which is the standard conversion system for Canadians.

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    some insight

    Hi Michael,

    I dont know how helpful I can be but I can tell you what I know from when I was in your position. Of course what I say shouldnt be taken as fact, you would have to talk to the
    "proper authorities" for the facts. I also apologize for the long post.

    As far as getting into an American school I can tell you it is tough. I dont know for sure since I didnt do it myself (I am in the Caribbean, not US), but I did talk to many people and did research it myself.
    HAving said that, think of it like this; you have to be better than an American applicant to get accepted. You will be taking a spot from an American citizen and you need to prove that you are that much better to 'displace' one. So as a foreign applicant meeting the minimum requirements will not cut it. As far as what schools to apply to......my opinion is that you are probably better off applying to private institutions since they have more latitude in their choice of students (since they receive less government funding).

    GPA is obviously very important so try to improve it as much as possible before you graduate. 85% is good, but you need to stand out. MCAT is also key for American schools (I have several American and Candian friends with high GPAs, healthcare & research experience, and amazing personalities who were rejected simply because their MCATs were poor). I highly recommend a KAPLAN course.
    Probably most important (with any school) though is that you have these criteria in combination with a WELL ROUNDED APPLICATION. You must stand out to the admissions people.

    My advice to you would be to do your best in school, get a great MCAT score, and apply to the American schools you are interested in. Apply to the Caribbean schools as backup. Which American schools to apply to? Well look at the ones you are interested in and call them up. Call them all if you can stand to! You would be amazed at how helpful some will be about providing their admissions policies regarding international students and Canadians. You might even get that info on their websites. That should give you an idea of where to focus your energy.

    I do think you should apply to the Caribbean schools as well, but I dont recommend going to a Caribbean school without first trying the American or Canadian schools. Attending an American/Canadian school puts you at a SIGNIFICANT advantage over caribbean grads.......especially if you are not an American citizen. This is particularly true if you want to enter a competitive specialty (which ER is becoming).

    One thing I am curious about is why you dont want to attend a Canadian school. You obviously have your reasons, but I have to say that I cant understand why anyone would rather go to a Caribbean school than a Canadian school. I know the Canadian schools are extremely tough (I am Canadian) but you should still try....good grades and MCATS go a long way. I know you want to be a doc in the US as well, and believe me you will have a much better chance getting a residency in the US if you are a Canadian grad than a Caribbean grad.

    I would be happy to answer any more questions you have (I dont even know If I answered any with this post!). I got a lot of help myself from these boards. If you dont mind, I would like to hear some of your reasons for not applying to Canadian schools. I also didnt apply to Canadian schools, but my GPA and MCAT scores were too low. You have a decent GPA and one or two years left to improve it, you and as such I cant see why you wouldnt apply.

    Take Care
    ceecee

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