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    re: Canadians getting residency in the states?

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    Anyone know anyone with a residency in USA who is a Canadian citizen?
    How hard is this to pull off? How does it work? I know about the visa stuff, since I read the other messages; I'm just wondering about what the
    reality is once you actually get through the visa stuff. Can Canadians get a residency other than the least saught after positions?

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    It is possible....

    If it's any encouragement, I will be doing my IM residency at Cook County starting in July. I know 3 fellow Canadian FMG's who also got IM spots through this year's match, in Oklahoma, southern Illinois, and New Jersey; all of us are on H1. I also know of a few Canucks who got residencies last year with J1: one in IM (Ohio), one FP (Wisconsin), and one Peds (I think also Ohio).

    So it's definitely not impossible, although you may have a hard time getting a Surgery or Radiology spot. Anesthesia is tough too, but at least you can look to Val Ilivitsky for inspiration (if you haven't already seen his site, check out www.csa-notes.com for lots of great info). Anyways, you basically just have to go through the same hoops as all other non-US citizens. In the long run I think you're much better off taking your time and getting an H1, although it does limit your choices since a lot of programs only sponsor J1. My best advice.....plan ahead! Good luck!

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    Canadians

    Steve
    Thanks for the positive feedback. I just wanted to clarify something. Are you talking about Canadian IMG or just Canadian Med students?

    I feel sorry for Canadian IMGs, very little hope here for them in Canada, in even people keeping talking about that things are going to change soon.

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    US residencies

    I am a Canadian FMG, along with the 3 others I mentioned. So getting a residency spot in the US on an H1 is certainly doable, although not exactly a piece of cake. As for getting a position in Canada as an FMG, it's almost impossible unless you're VERY VERY lucky....
    Stephen Sloan, M.D.
    PGY2 Internal Medicine
    John H. Stroger, Jr. Hospital of Cook County (the NEW Cook County Hospital)

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    questions

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    Can you kindly explain the producures (exams and other things) that a canadian FMG has to go through in order to get a residency in the USA?

    Also is it really worth the time and effort for a Canadian FMG to write the MCCEE and apply for residency in Canada?

    Lastly, I know (or at least think) that each province has its own rules or FMG, in which province do you think a person has best chances?

    Thanks

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    Re- Canadian Residency

    Hi,

    I'm a Canadian starting my third year as an IMS - and plan to come back to Canada. As for provincial restrictions - check them out on the CaRMS website.

    I have a question: I am planning on writing both the MCQEE and USMLE Step 2 next fall and I've heard they are similar tests. Does anyone know anything about this. I was planning on using Kaplan Step2 and the Toronto notes. Any other suggestions?

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    Info for Lost & Furfur

    Hey Lost…You should find answers to your 1st 2 questions in some of the previous threads on this forum (especially the "Process for Cdns. to get a residency" and "Timeline" threads). Having already gone through the process myself of trying to get a Cdn. residency position, my best advice would be to forget about coming back to Canada, as sad as that sounds. If you just focus on the U.S., you'll save yourself quite a bit of $$ and a lot of heartache. But if you do insist on trying your luck with CARMS, your best bet is probably in Nfld. and Sask. You can check out the results of the match over the past few years on the MCC site to get an idea of which spots were still available for FMG's after the 1st round. Ontario & Quebec are basically out since they don't even have CARMS spots for FMG's, although I suppose if you really want you could try to get a spot through their IMG programs.

    Furfur…you're right, the EE and Step 2 are pretty similar in content (aside from the Cdn. content on the EE), so it's a good idea to take them around the same time. The EE is harder since you don't get as much clinical info to help you answer the questions. Between Kaplan and T.O. Notes you should be quite well prepared. I would also recommend doing as many practice questions as you can for both exams. Kaplan Qbank and NMS are both quite good. And definitely try to get a hold of some old MCCQE MCQ's…they're almost the same as on the EE.

    Good luck!
    Stephen Sloan, M.D.
    PGY2 Internal Medicine
    John H. Stroger, Jr. Hospital of Cook County (the NEW Cook County Hospital)

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    Thanks Steve,

    Thanks for your advice and input Steve. Coming from a Carib school - it's easy to find access to USMLE study material (ie. NMS, etc) - but I'm not sure how to get a hold of old MCCQE MCQs. Is there some place these can be downloaded - or do people have books of them?? Again, any imput appreciated.

    Furfur

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    MCCEE

    You can order a sample MCCQE test from the MCC for $20. The questions are very similar to those on the EE, so it'll give you a good idea of what to expect. If you happen to know anyone doing residency in Canada, I'm sure they would have some old QE MCQ's. Unfortunately I've already given mine away....
    Stephen Sloan, M.D.
    PGY2 Internal Medicine
    John H. Stroger, Jr. Hospital of Cook County (the NEW Cook County Hospital)

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    IM

    Steve,

    What can you do after your IM residency? I heard you can get a fellowship in a lot of stuff ie Cardiology, nephrology etc.

    Is this hard to do for a FMG??

    Can you email me @ [email protected] if you have any info! Thanks man.

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