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    Marrying a US Citizen and applying for Residency

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    Hi guys, I really appreciate the insight into this situation I have in advance. Here goes a tough post for me.

    Well I am worried about getting a residency, and an H1-B, and the fact that the prematch is going to be gone by 2006 when ideally I'll be in the application pool for a resdency.

    Questions:
    - If I marry a US Citizen between then and now, is there a deadline for when I have to do this, by allowing the time to be eligible to apply for regular residency positions? Do you get a green-card upon marriage, or a permanent-resident status upon marriage. Which is more immediate - which entitles you to apply for the residency positions that US-Citizen-IMGs are eligible for.
    **PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTION FIRST IF YOU CAN BEFORE BERATING ME ON THE FOLLOWING QUESTION**

    -On a personal note, I am hurting on considering ending a recently started, good relationship that shows promise with someone who is Cdn. Should I be that afraid of the H1-b visa non-occurence? I also never felt ready to get married other than when I was spiritually and financially ready, which I guess would be in the time frame called "residency plus." Am I not wise at this juncture in an early yet heartfelt relationship to be thinking a few steps ahead about my career goals and realistic partner search. It is also probably not going to be any fun for a Cdn partner to relocate and face the same visa issues in their profession when I am bound to relocate to the USA. (by choice of this career path because I am very fond of the USA)

    I am at a tough juncture with all of this at this point, and would appreciate assertive, mature, advice, and constructive criticisms.

    Thank you most sincerely Colleagues,

    -md2b_2006

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    I wonder

    Hi.

    I'm not sure if my comments will fall into the assertive, mature or constructive criticism category, but I can't believe that nationality will be the guiding or deciding criteria for choosing your future life-long mate. I'm sure that's not your only criteria, hopefully things like being kind, loving, supportive, capable of being a good father and (silly me) love would come into play.

    It is now 2004 so you have about 2 years to find an American male who will agree to marry you. I suppose it's possible, but the timeframe seems a bit short to dump the Canadian citizen and search for a man with a more 'lucrative' passport. That is not really a lot of time.

    On a more personal note, I feel for the guy you are currently dating. You say it would be tough for him to transfer his professional credentials to the US in order to follow you. But you haven't even given him a chance to investigate the options or even try.

    The people that I know that marry for visa's and citizenship etc. mostly come from Ukraine or Russia where life is very very difficult.

    Many IMG's face the H1-B visa hurdle. I think there are many ways to overcome this (us clinical rotations, hospitals that sponsor etc.) but I don't think that marriage to accomplish this goal is ethical or fair to the other person.

    My sister married an American and she got her green card first - in about 6 months.

    Do you love the States? or do you love the remuneration? My comment, whether it is constructive or not, is to perhaps examine the allignment within yourself and ask yourself if integrity and honesty are the guideposts by which you live.

    I would hold that integrity and honesty should certainly be cornerstones of the medical profession and those who choose to practise in this field.

    Good luck with your choices and your journey. S-

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    Ok, this gets complicated. First thing: green card and permanent resident status are the same thing. After 5 or so years of resident status, you can apply for citizenship, giving you the right to vote. Now, if you wanted to marry a US citizen for the purposes of obtaining the green card you would have to do it well in advance of applying for residency. After marrying, you make your application and then wait for your immigration interview where you will provide evidence that you and your spouse are indeed married and intermingling your lives (financially, and otherwise). How long it takes for this interview to come up varies by the city you live in...count on about a year. If the interview goes well, you will be given conditional permanent resident status (green card) on the spot. It is conditional because you and your spouse must reapply after 2 years, at which point you will be granted unconditional perm. resident status...the 2 year wait is to discourage scamming. If you were to get divorced before the 2 years, you would have to prove to BCIS that you entered the marriage in good faith, and not for the purposes of evading the immigration laws of the United States if you want to keep your green card. For all this it helps to have a good lawyer. Hope this answers some questions.
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    huh?

    first off...I do not think this type of question warrants helping...this is not a legal way of getting into the States...loophole maybe, but not legal.
    Secondly, if this is the way one wants to start to practice Medicine in the States, I wonder what else kinda illegal activity would they easily fell into...This is as bad as GW and his recent immigration policy...
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    re:Huh?

    now if you fell in love...that would be a different story...re-phrase the question to maybe-->"what happens if I fall in love and married an american citizen...etc."
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    Um, well...

    Can you please answer THAT hypothetical question? I posted on here a little bit last year after getting the big rejection from the Cdn schools I applied to. If I don't get in this year, I am about 70% sure that I am going the Caribbean route. I have an American girlfriend of 3 years, and although we live on opposite sides of the continent right now (we had lived together for about a year and a half), I could possibly see us being married by the time I would be applying for a residency. Do Las Vegas shotgun weddings count? I ask only because planning a 'real' ceremony while living in the Caribbean seems like a nightmare....haha

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    Um, well...

    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldKaufman
    Can you please answer THAT hypothetical question? I posted on here a little bit last year after getting the big rejection from the Cdn schools I applied to. If I don't get in this year, I am about 70% sure that I am going the Caribbean route. I have an American girlfriend of 3 years, and although we live on opposite sides of the continent right now (we had lived together for about a year and a half), I could possibly see us being married by the time I would be applying for a residency. Do Las Vegas shotgun weddings count? I ask only because planning a 'real' ceremony while living in the Caribbean seems like a nightmare....haha
    Las Vegas weddings are 100% legal...you can go anytime 24 hours/day and get a license and get married. I got married in 1991 at:

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    Caribbean weddings

    My wife and I got married on Royal Caribbean cruise line. It ROCKED. Family can make their own plans to get there, and the cruise line takes care of all your preparations for the ceremony. I think it was $400 for the basic package, and it was very nice.

    And US citizenship can be applied for after 3 years of permanent residency, and your 'conditional permanent residency' applies toward that number. At least, this was the policy up until last year, not 100% sure what it is now.

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    So..

    Thanks for the info, guys. So if I was to get married at least a year before the residency match, I would be able to enter the match in the same position as an American IMG, right? Which would elminate some of the Visa-related issues, and leave me only with the issues related to being an IMG (i.e. less-desirable residency spots...)? This sounds crazy to talk about this far in advance, but I don't see us breaking up, and I'll be about 27 or 28 by that time, so....it's sorta realistic...
    Again, thanks for the help,
    DK

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    Thanks...

    Thanks to everyone who replied to my post.

    To the first reply and the chap who was unsure about my motives for pursuing this line of though: This is not my inspiration for getting married. This is however a legitimate issue for someone in my shoes. i.e.: should I not pursue a new relationship to the point of love knowing that its going to be difficult for all parties in the long term realistically, and should I truly just wait to look for love in the fine US of A.

    I don't plan to be a hitch and ditch type be any means. I have strong values, and wanted to know the timeline as well if I decided to look for my partner in the US.

    Frankly, I never wanted to rush into a marriage, and neither do I want to now despite the hurdles. If it happens before residency, great, but its not my motivation in life. After a few days of thinking about this and reading your replies as well, I am inspired to start a new thread...

    Sincerely,

    md2b_2006

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