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    Question about MCCEE equivalency and J-1 visa application

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    I'm a little confused about CPSO's policy on exam equivalencies. If you read http://www.cpso.on.ca/Info_physician.../examequiv.htm it states that the USMLE is equivalent to MCCQE parts I and II. If you have completed your US steps, and ergo meet the MCCQE requirements, do you still need to write the MCCEE to begin with? The reason I ask is because I understand that in order to obtain a letter of need from the Canadian government for a J-1 visa application, you need to have passed the MCCEE. However, if you already hold exam equivalencies for the MCCQEs, isn't that redundant? Any help is greatly appreciated.

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    mccee

    may not be the case. not fully sure. but before you can write the MCCEE you need to have the MD completed.

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    well

    that's not true. you can register for and write MCCEE upto 9 months prior to graduation.

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    HealthCanadaProgAdmin can probably answer your question most precisely, but I believe that you still need to write the EE in order to obtain a J1. The reason is that the granting of J1 statements of need is a federal issue (ie Health Canada) whereas USMLE/QE1&2 equivalency is stricly an Ontario phenomenon. Thus the requirement to write EE stands.
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    well

    hey,
    http://www.mcc.ca/pdf/2005ee/EE_Pamphlet%202005.pdf

    go to the above site and go to page 9 [of 25], under educational requirements, you will find the following. [direct quote]

    1. "GRADUATES OF INTERNATIONAL MEDICAL SCHOOLS (IMGs) must have completed all didactic and practical requirements to obtain the final qualification of Doctor of Medicine or equivalent qualification (see Appendix A for specific credentials for each country) and be in receipt of the final medical diploma from the university that granted their medical degree. The medical diploma must entitle the candidate, with appropriate postgraduate training, to be licensed to practice as a physician in his/her country. The university granting the degree must be listed in either the WHO World Directory of Medical Schools: http://www.who.int/hrh/wdms/en/ or the FAIMER International Medical Education Directory: http://imed.ecfmg.org/. "
    I mean that is how I interpreted it. Am I wrong?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CanIMG
    HealthCanadaProgAdmin can probably answer your question most precisely, but I believe that you still need to write the EE in order to obtain a J1. The reason is that the granting of J1 statements of need is a federal issue (ie Health Canada) whereas USMLE/QE1&2 equivalency is stricly an Ontario phenomenon. Thus the requirement to write EE stands.
    Ah-ha! Makes sense now. Thanks!

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    Keep Reading

    Vancouverite01,

    Keep reading... a few paragraphs later it describes the requirements for students of international medical schools.....

    To summarize:

    Must be in their final year and be expected to graduate within nine months from the date of the exam.

    Cheers

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    yes, I agree. I had only read that far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nabhan007
    I'm a little confused about CPSO's policy on exam equivalencies. If you read Exam Equivalencies it states that the USMLE is equivalent to MCCQE parts I and II. If you have completed your US steps, and ergo meet the MCCQE requirements, do you still need to write the MCCEE to begin with? The reason I ask is because I understand that in order to obtain a letter of need from the Canadian government for a J-1 visa application, you need to have passed the MCCEE. However, if you already hold exam equivalencies for the MCCQEs, isn't that redundant? Any help is greatly appreciated.
    Note the context in which the CPSO exam equivalence policy applies.

    In short:
    One, IMG wants to enter carms second iteration for a position in Ontario

    Two, US trained specialist wants to apply for a restricted licence in Ontario.
    The doctor can obtain an exemption of the EE only after obtaining ECFMG certification (foreign MD), plus all the USMLEs, plus the American Board Diploma.

    The MCC EE is stillthe minimum examination requirement to obtain a Statement of Need (required by the ECFMG to obtain the J-1 Visa). A pass in the MCC EE is your guarantee that the medical degree that was obtained outside Canada/U.S. is recognized in Canada. It is the only Canadian tool/method for assessing the equivalance of an international medical degree. It is necessary at the time of application for a Statement of Need that the applicant show s/he has a valid medical degree (or will have by graduation), and that their medical knowledge is on par with a Canadian medical degree.
    Last edited by ValuableCanadian; 11-18-2006 at 09:11 AM. Reason: additional info; clarify
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