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    Hi,
    I am still unclear about the admission requirments for australian medical schools. If i am an american college student and i havent finished up my bachelors but do have a year of sciences and an MCAT score, can i apply for the australian medical schools? Ive heard somewhere that if your bachelors is not yet completed then they will ccept you but you have to finish up a bachelors at their college and then you may proceed to medical school. Can someone clear that up for me? im not sure what to believe.
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    Quick Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve11916
    Hi,
    I am still unclear about the admission requirments for australian medical schools. If i am an american college student and i havent finished up my bachelors but do have a year of sciences and an MCAT score, can i apply for the australian medical schools? Ive heard somewhere that if your bachelors is not yet completed then they will ccept you but you have to finish up a bachelors at their college and then you may proceed to medical school. Can someone clear that up for me? im not sure what to believe.
    thanks
    Actually that's completely wrong. You have two choices. You can apply to post grad schools in Australia or undergrad schools.

    Post grad schools are where most of the N.Americans go. They require MCAT scores (usually about the same as US schools) and are 4 years in duration. It is also notoriously hard to stay in Australia afterwards if you attend one of these schools. There are many reasons to this; look up my previous posts.

    Undergrad schools will accept you with an MCAT score and without a bachelors degree; but then the "downside" is that they are usually 5-6 years in length. However most of them (esp. UWA and Tas) allow you to stay in the country afterwards for internship and then residency (if that's an option for you).

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    hi

    for the post grad program do you need a bachelors or just a year of science and an MCAT? also, I was wondering how tough these schools are to get into, and if there are any medical/dental colleges that dont require a bachelors, but do require an MCAT and a year of sciences (like some carribean schools)....also, are these schools recognized in USA and California?
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    hi

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve11916
    for the post grad program do you need a bachelors or just a year of science and an MCAT? also, I was wondering how tough these schools are to get into, and if there are any medical/dental colleges that dont require a bachelors, but do require an MCAT and a year of sciences (like some carribean schools)....also, are these schools recognized in USA and California?
    thanks
    Post grad programs require a full degree if you want to do a 4 year program. These schools are fairly tough to get into; but i never applied to one myself i'm just going on what i've read in these forums.

    If the med/dent schools require a bachelors they definitely require a MCAT. If you want to go to one that doesn't require a bachelors they don't require an MCAT either.

    As for US/Cal contact Pat park directly but from what i've seen all med schools in australia are reecognised in the US/Cal.

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    4 Year Programs are NOT postgraduate.

    These 4 year programs are NOT POSTgraduate programs. They are UNDERgraduate programs. PERIOD. And admission is very arbitrary.

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    Australian Admissions

    Hey,
    Getting into an Australian school as an international student is about equivalent to gaining admission to a school in the US (top 15 aside) and likely significantly more difficult than the Carib. but if you are competitive in the US then you're competitive in Australia. I go to the University of Sydney and I had a GPA of 3.65 and MCAT of 31 and I got in without any trouble.

    You need to have completed a prior degree to gain admission to the Graduate Medical Programs in Australia. Beenthere says that these programs are undergraduate which is not really true. For visas you apply for an undergraduate visa but you are enrolled in a Postgraduate Medical program. Don't ask me why it's like that but it is. I'm pretty sure in most countries (Canada and Aus.) for example Medicine is considered an undergraduate degree eventhough you need a previous undergraduate degree to enter the program. I think it's cause your residency is considered you true postgrad training.

    One year of a bachelor's will not be enough to qualify for postgrad programs. You need the MCAT or the GAMSAT (Aussie test) as well. Hope this info helps....

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    Usyd is UNDERGRADUATE

    Check closely, the Faculty even removed the "graduate" from the name of the program. Deceptive marketing aside, it's an undergraduate (bachelor's) degree.

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    Sorry, you're an UNDERgrad

    If you are a student in UsydMP (formerly called GMP), you are NOT a postgraduate student. How long have you been there? You are an undergraduate for all purposes -- immigration, enrolment, etc.

    (The degree does enable you to apply for ECFMG certification and then for residency training in the US.)

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    Post vs. undergrad

    You're right about not being a postgrad student. That title is only given to Master's or PhD students. I just didn't want people who are considering attending a 4 year program to think that because they apply for an undergraduate visa that;

    1) they don't need a prior degree to enter said program, cause you do

    2) they are still able to return to the US or Canada once the MBBS is obtained. In fact many foreign trained doctors who have either MBBS or BA ChoA (That's what you get from Ireland I believe) still use MD as their designation. More or less to avoid patient confusion I think.

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    RUBBISH

    Quote Originally Posted by JBA
    Hey,
    Getting into an Australian school as an international student is about equivalent to gaining admission to a school in the US (top 15 aside) and likely significantly more difficult than the Carib. but if you are competitive in the US then you're competitive in Australia.
    RUBBISH. Everyone knows this is NOT true.

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