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    Are ALL AUC Cores ACGME accredited in some way??

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    Hey guys,

    I know that this topic has been covered in the past but I I have heard mixed answers to this question. So if anyone is familar with this topic, could you please help me out here??? i would greatly appreciate it. I have looked on the ACGME website and not all AUC cores are on there (for example: sugery at luthern is not in the ACGME accrediated list). However, i know there are loop holes and stuff. So what else would i have to do if it is not listed in the acgme accredited website?? I'm only talking about the AUC CORES, here. I would greatly appreciated on any information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeleton83 View Post
    Hey guys,

    I know that this topic has been covered in the past but I I have heard mixed answers to this question. So if anyone is familar with this topic, could you please help me out here??? i would greatly appreciate it. I have looked on the ACGME website and not all AUC cores are on there (for example: sugery at luthern is not in the ACGME accrediated list). However, i know there are loop holes and stuff. So what else would i have to do if it is not listed in the acgme accredited website?? I'm only talking about the AUC CORES, here. I would greatly appreciated on any information.
    You are asking... How do you go about finding out if this rotation is or is not actually ACGME accredited "greenbooked", right? Your safest bet would be contact the program director directly and contact the Registars Office of the University that sponsors the rotation. Also check to see if they offer a residency.
    Students rotating at Providence can answer this better, because of the Psych rotation there. I don't believe it is listed on the ACGME website but is accredited. If none of them answer this, do a search and then send a private message to one of them.

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    If you want to find out what is accredited (green book) and what isn't? goto this website.

    ACGME Accredited Program and Institutional Listing - Public Access

    put in the state and look for the hospital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skeleton83 View Post
    I'm only talking about the AUC CORES, here. I would greatly appreciated on any information.
    Pediatrics at Kern Medical Center in Bakersfield, California is not technically ACGME (since they have no Peds residency program there) however it supposedly falls under the "umbrella" of their Family Practice residency.

    My advice: If you end up at Kern and think it will cause a problem, go do your Peds at an ACGME Peds site.

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    electives

    How do you find out if ELECTIVES are greenbook or not? I tried using the acgme site for electives but couldnt find anything. Is there another site maybe for electives?

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    for electives it depends on the state you want to go to....

    for instances if you want to get a Tx License you have to do all ACGME electives meaning there has to be a specific training program in the field you are doing the elective in: so if you are doing neurology there has to be a neurology fellowship or residency

    now if most other states you can do your electives at places that have a teaching affilation of a US Med School or under an umberalla of FM

    so you should find out what is the requirement of the state you plan on going to

    now to find out for electives use the ACGME site and look up the program and see if there is a specific program in your elective, or a teaching affilation, or a FP residency (depending on your states you going to)

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    yea allways double check with both the school and more importantly the hospital

    for example psych and peds at providence:

    Psych- is done through wayne state university, waqyne state med students rotate through there also and the providence staff is also teaching faculty for wayne
    Peds-is done through st john main which has a peds residency and you goto lectures there and spend part of your rotation there as well. also the teaching faculty for providence is also teaching faculty for st john

    this is a common theme accross the board even for US schools. wayne state, kmc, and michigan state all rotate at most of the hospitals we go to and some of them do not have residency programs but have affiliations to teach through acgme sites

    bottom line, ask if there is a acgme residency number you will use on your califirnia L6 form
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    Wait.. How can AUC have CORE rotations that aren't ACGME certified? Isn't that a "bad thing"? Can you get licesnsure in all 50 states if you do a core that isn't ACGME certified?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinical_rotations View Post
    Wait.. How can AUC have CORE rotations that aren't ACGME certified? Isn't that a "bad thing"? Can you get licesnsure in all 50 states if you do a core that isn't ACGME certified?

    no one said they are not acgme certified....a few of the cores are acgme certified under different methods...for instance under the umberalla policy or under a major teaching institution of a US medical school

    if you US students are rotating there then there is nothing to worry about since US students do not have licensing issues.

    the only concern is for some states they have certain policy that have to be followed for cores and electives...i.e. texas

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    I dont understand what you just said. It sounds like in your 2nd to last sentence you said it doesn't matter, but then in your last sentence you said it does matter. (i'm not trying to start a fight) That's horrible that AUC would schedule a core rotation for a student at a place that isn't ACGME certified. There's actually one word for that: bullfeces I am really hating all the stuff with clinicals at AUC. I don't want to have some Bullfeces medical license that only lets me practice medicine in some states. That's idiotic.
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