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    So...if there is already a thread to this, can someone put up the link? I didn't see one, but I may have missed it...

    After Step 1, you start rotations, you finish rotations...ideally, when do you take Step 2 CK and CS? End of the cores? When do you need to have all your paperwork in for ERAS and all that? Does the school have like an official "checklist" or "timeline" on what to do next, etc? I know First Aid gives you a nice breakdown, but I was wondering what AUA specifically requires at what point in time, just to have it in mind....Because there wasn't any guidance on what to do regarding Step 1 and how to register for it aside from word of mouth...Honestly, it would've been really nice if they took 1 class during 5th, heck, maybe even 1 hr, during that entire semester to just explain the process...but, anyways, does anyone know? Any seniors out there who've taken Step 2 care to share their experiences? Anything would be appreciated! I've gotten a lot of help from these forums, thanks for the feedback!

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    Quote Originally Posted by med200 View Post
    After Step 1, you start rotations, you finish rotations...ideally, when do you take Step 2 CK and CS? End of the cores?
    ideally it should come at the end of your cores but that depends on if you did any electives during your third year. it is essential to have taken and passed your CK and CS the September before the year you are applying for. the reason for this is that your residency apps go out September 1st and if you don't have your step 2 scores at this time, you may miss early interviews. i took my CK the beginning of June and got it back 3 weeks later. i took my CS in July and got it back 5-6 weeks later.

    When do you need to have all your paperwork in for ERAS and all that? Does the school have like an official "checklist" or "timeline" on what to do next, etc? I know First Aid gives you a nice breakdown, but I was wondering what AUA specifically requires at what point in time, just to have it in mind....
    you need to have everything in and completed by September 1st as i stated above. you can start the process in July filling out your app and begin getting your LORs in. AUA will send you a match guide sometime during your third or fourth year. it's imperative that you start getting your LORs now or at least the writers and have them write the letters early. this is a tedious process and you don't want to get to September 1st with an incomplete file. also the process of sending your LORs into the ECFMG is tedious because they then have to scan it and send it over to ERAS. don't worry about the technicals of this now, just worry about getting your letters.

    Any seniors out there who've taken Step 2 care to share their experiences? Anything would be appreciated! I've gotten a lot of help from these forums, thanks for the feedback!
    step 2 CK was much easier than step 1. it was easier to study for and an easier exam by far, i also scored higher than step 1. don't take it lightly, there's a lot of information to learn but it's more of an understanding of medicine rather than name that enzyme.

    CS is easy also, speaking English and doing H&P's should come naturally to you by your 4th year.

    i hope this helps
    M.D.

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    awesome, thanks Doc.p!! really appreciate it!

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    Doc P pretty much covered it all. I will add that you should do your IM rotation bare minimum before attempting the CK. The CK is a nice spread of topics but IM is definitely the lion's share of tested material.

    Alas I was unable to take my CK before Sept 1st (thank you AUA for dragging your feet on disbursing my loan money) and it has hurt my application for residency. But I did have all my paperwork submitted on time as well as my LORs submitted so that will help with some of the interviews hopefully. You will find that the material is much more clinical and thus common sense approach than Step 1.
    Graduated June 2011!!!! Matched In Psychiatry 2012 PGY-1 Pgy-2 Passed Step 3 July 2016 Attending in Psychiatry

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    post step 1

    Hello I would love to hear some advice from some seniors about this:

    I've passed step 1 recently, sent in my score report and it's been days and I still haven't received any confirmation of any sort. I know there's a general waiting list, but is there any checklist for this whole process or additional documentation that needs to be filled out or an estimate date as to when rotations will start? Who should I contact regarding my preferences for rotation placement? I also heard that personally contacting the medical director at aua affiliated hospitals can expedite the process for obtaining rotations, is this true? I also heard that I can start an elective prior to cores but how can I initiate this without any info/documentation from the school? I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels this way. Please help out. Thanks so much!

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    step 1 stuff

    So i wasnt sure i totally understood your question: I am a AUA student and I have 2 cores left (currently in the 2nd to last) and have finished all my electives , I have prematched in IM as well.

    So its my understanding that you finished step 1 and the report was sent to AUA and your waiting now?.... Ok so if this is the case. First thing to do is contact your clinical coordinator. If you dont know who it is simply contact the clinical department and find out. You will need some basic paperwork done before you can start---medical stuff like titers, physical, nysed form if you will rotate in ny, criminal background check. Ask the cooridator to put you on a list for rotations (dont be picky unless your state in which you need to practice requires greenbook rotations--find OUT NOW FROM YOUR STATES HEALTH DEPT SITE).. Im in VA and mine requires all greenbook cores. anyways ask the coordinator to send you the documentation and put you on a list for cores. Now it was my understanding that you must have IM, SURGERY OR FAMILY MED core before any elective can be done. This was a new rule set up a while ago i dont know if it changed. This is done so that if you want to do say... cardiology you have a basic IM understanding which is needed for that rotation or say if going to urology elective youve done surgery so you have a basic surgical understanding. ALSO IT HAS BEEN AUA's policy that youCANNOT contact program directors on your own for aua contracted hospitals about rotations. You can however attempt to find your own rotation in non contracted hospitals by talking to program directors if you so choose.

    I hope I helped. Aaron

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    Actually I know of a student that just finished a Pain management elective without having done any cores at all. I was told by the clinical coordinators that when it comes to electives, if you haven't done IM, the only electives you can do are Pain Management, Radiology, or Anestheisology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shayloure View Post
    Actually I know of a student that just finished a Pain management elective without having done any cores at all. I was told by the clinical coordinators that when it comes to electives, if you haven't done IM, the only electives you can do are Pain Management, Radiology, or Anestheisology.
    I think the available electives to a student, that hasn't done any cores yet, depends on the hospital. In any case, Jackson Park Hospital allows you to do the 3 mentioned above, with the addition of pathology.

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    I did psych (core & elective) before doing any other rotations.

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