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    question about setting up clinicals

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    Whats up everyone. So I sent in all my paperwork for clinicals last week and just got an email from my coordinator asking me if Id like to start OBGYN in chicago on monday... my coordinator did not say which hospital in chicago...

    So... can someone please help me out here... Is this how setting up your clinicals goes? I thought I would get some sort of paper that I would fill out ranking in order which rotations id like to do and then she would work with me in trying to get those rotations. Im from Texas and would like to practice here so I need to have all my cores and electives green or AOA.

    So, what do I do? Do I send her an email with a list of rotations that Id like to do???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agraphia View Post
    Im from Texas and would like to practice here so I need to have all my cores and electives green or AOA.

    So, what do I do? Do I send her an email with a list of rotations that Id like to do???
    Your rotations don't necessarily have to been green or AOA. That requirement is waived if you are board certified.


    An applicant who is unable to comply with this requirement, for example, an international medical graduate who performed clinical clerkships in the United States, must demonstrate that the applicant either:

    i)received such medical education in a hospital or teaching institution sponsoring or participating in a program of graduate medical education accredited by the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education, the American Osteopathic Association, or the board in the same subject (emphasis added) as the medical or osteopathic medical education if the hospital or teaching institution has an agreement with the applicant's school; or,

    ii)is specialty board certified by a board approved by the ABMS or BOS.

    Physician Licensure Eligibility Requirements and Documentation - Education

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    Yeah, i know about the board certification. I at the VERY LEAST would like to do all greenbook for my cores. Is this how the whole process works... I email my advisor and tell him/her I want all green cores? I just figured that my coordinator would at least send me an email asking me what are my priorities in terms of selecting rotations etc..

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    Jackson Park -Chicago

    Hey,

    In Chicago, you would be doing rotation at Jackson Park Hospital, which has Family Practice GREEN , the rest are BLUE , you CAN do all your cores here, pretty much back to back, BUT only FP is green, the rest (are ACGME-approved under the family practice umbrella, as it says on their website , which by definition is BLUE book).
    Westlake Hospital has GREEN internal Medicine...

    SO, your OBGYN rotation would be BLUE.

    Thats my understanding of how things are here...... you should go to Jackson Park hospital website and see for yourself though!

    GOODLUCK..!

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    Rotations

    So... can someone please help me out here... Is this how setting up your clinicals goes? I thought I would get some sort of paper that I would fill out ranking in order which rotations id like to do and then she would work with me in trying to get those rotations. Im from Texas and would like to practice here so I need to have all my cores and electives green or AOA.

    So, what do I do? Do I send her an email with a list of rotations that Id like to do???

    If you know that you only want to do GREEN rotations, you should tell the coordinator and she will tell you what is available at the earliest date, but if you want a specific location you should also let her know, but I think you will be waiting for a long time. For example, the earliest Green rotation that was available 2 weeks ago was the end of December, Im not sure what it was and where, but at least you know the time frame you are looking at.


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    I really appreciate the replies everyone.

    Dr. DinaRus... how do you know the next open green spot is in the end of december? Thats a really really long wait. If you do a core that isn't greenbook, I know this severely limits your options when it comes to state licensure. Are you doing cores that aren't greenbook or AOA approved?

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    hey guys... i am in a similar dilemma situation... i just got offered peds at jackson park... and not sure if i should do it because of the whole "family umbrella" thingy... but don't have any other option but to do an elective... please help me out... thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agraphia View Post
    I really appreciate the replies everyone.

    Dr. DinaRus... how do you know the next open green spot is in the end of december? Thats a really really long wait. If you do a core that isn't greenbook, I know this severely limits your options when it comes to state licensure. Are you doing cores that aren't greenbook or AOA approved?
    HEy!

    I know that the next open green spot is at end of dec b/c the coordinator told me, and she is the one that has all of the info about that.
    I dont think that you SEVERELY limit your options, just look up the states that you would like to practice in and see what the requirements are. As for residency, I haven't seen any residency website that mentioned the kind of rotations required, so I think mostly its about the state you want to practice in.
    Personally, I don't really have a preference about where to get licensed/ do residency as long as its what I want. I only talked to the Michigan Med Board and they have no requirement as far as clinicals are concerned. What I noticed is a lot of states required IMGs to have a certain amount of training at an ACGME approved program, but they don't mention clinicals...... so, if you know the state you would like to practice in go to AMA or State MEdical Boards website and you will see the links to all the states and their requirements state by state, and see for yourself what they need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drpri View Post
    hey guys... i am in a similar dilemma situation... i just got offered peds at jackson park... and not sure if i should do it because of the whole "family umbrella" thingy... but don't have any other option but to do an elective... please help me out... thanks...
    I can tell you this, peds, IM, OB, surgery, psych at Jackson Park are BLUE, thats what family umbrella is.
    Family Med -Green
    IM -Green at Westlake Hospital (Chicago)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.DinaRus View Post
    I can tell you this, peds, IM, OB, surgery, psych at Jackson Park are BLUE, thats what family umbrella is.
    Family Med -Green
    IM -Green at Westlake Hospital (Chicago)

    Only Family is green. All other rotations are considered "blue" which automatically removes about 12 states from your pool of states to apply to for residency.

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