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    Curious about MD5 in Chicago?...Read on..

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    Hey guys,

    I haven’t been on here for a while....and Since I have been getting questions about MD5 in Chicago from a few curious students I decided to write a post that hopefully will be informative for the new incoming students or prospective transfer students!.



    The MD5 program is in Chicago...at Jackson park medical Centre. (yes IN the hospital).
    It is a 16 week program, which is divided in to two 8 week sessions.


    The first 8 weeks is an intensive review course which prepares u for step 1. It’s a really good program taught by REAL doctors who have aced their step exams....and from my personal experience I learnt so much. No doubt it is fast paced and you are expected to know the stuff they are going over, but you are expected to equally put in your time and do you’re studying at home. You are expected to be there Mon-Fri from 8am-2pm, and yes 100% attendance is required, and taken everyday.. or you will be held back.

    They will give you a subscription to Kaplan Q bank (which you have to pay for off course) and are expected to do at least 20 questions per day. The lectures/ppts in class are followed very closely along with the FIRST AID book and Kaplan lecture notes!. (Majority of students carry their first aid to class.) So yes, overall it’s a very intensive yet productive first 8 weeks of the program. It definitely shows you where you have gaps in your knowledge from the classes you took on the island, and which disciplines of medicine you have to focus more on than the others.

    You are required to take a diagnostic exam (3 hr exam) in the first week to see where you stand in terms on knowing your stuff. Then you take two 8 hr exams (one mid term at the end of the 1st 8 weeks, and one final towards the end of the 16 weeks) simulating the step 1 exam.

    The 2nd 8 weeks is where you do rotations/clinical skills/learn how to do intubation, NG tube insertion, put in IV lines, how to write SOAP notes, H&P's etc.


    The rotations are in all the 6 cores...Surgery, Int med, Psyc, Obgyn, Family med and Peds. You do a full day each for these mixed with clinical skills/complete physical exam classes such as HEENT, Cardiovascular, Abdomen, Neuro etc ...and yes... its an awesome experience, especially when your attending physician lets you conduct physical/HEENT exams on the patients you are seeing (yes I did a bunch)!!

    All of the rotations are done offsite at different hospitals in Chicago...and from my personal experience it has made me soo much confident dealing with patients, as we had some really amazing attending physicians who let us deal with patients hands on!!..(yes some of the rotations such as surgery and Obgyn end up being more of observing what ur attending physician is doing). It’s like a heads up as to what you will be dealing with before u start the real rotations after step 1.


    So yea, this is basically what MD5 is composed of. My classroom size was probably around 40 students, some batches (depending when u start) I hear were a little more or even less students, and yes this program has students from St. James as well. So it’s a good mix!...

    So anyways, I hope this was informative. Good luck with everything!!..
    Last edited by Dr.Costa; 01-30-2014 at 01:04 PM.
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    Hey thanks for posting this! I am wanting to transfer to Atlantic from Windsor for MD5. I was a bit worried about Windsor's MD5 because it's in a motel out in the middle of nowhere. Going from that to being thrown with patients at a busy hospital seems like too big of a jump for me. I heard that Atlantic lets you do retakes from Windsor, do you know if there is any truth to that?

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    Hey ther!...Yes, AUSOM lets you do retakes. Contact the head office in NY and they will give you some more info about the same. All the transfers that come to AUSOM from various other schools are given the same option of writing the retakes...

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    What is the passing grade for retakes? Those who had to take this option, can you how the experience was?

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    the passing grade is the same as the usual midterm and final exam grade...i.e 70 %.

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    All of the rotations are done offsite at different hospitals in Chicago...and from my personal experience it has made me soo much confident dealing with patients, as we had some really amazing attending physicians who let us deal with patients hands on!!..(yes some of the rotations such as surgery and Obgyn end up being more of observing what ur attending physician is doing). It’s like a heads up as to what you will be dealing with before u start the real rotations after step 1.
    By this you mean in private clinics? Clinics =/= hospitals

    and for notatroll and anyone else reading this thread, switching schools to avoid having to take windsor retake exams will not help you in the future. It will only hurt you. I don't care whether you transfer anywhere or not but taking the "easy way out" will not help you at all, and only makes it harder later.

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    Dearest Houmd!

    Firstly thanks for taking the time to read my post and feel informed. Secondly, since you have plenty of time on ur hands and probably know plenty of students who have transferred out from UR school to AUSOM, im sure u can find out for yourself that the clinical rotations in MD5 at AUSOM..are NOT at any "clinics" like you assume.

    When I said "hospitals" I wasn't intoxicated or for that matter delirious.....lol...coz I am sure myself and all my colleagues who have gone thru the program know the difference between a 'clinic' and a 'hospital'. Now beyond that if you still want to convince me that I don't know what I am talking about!...then...oh well, there is nothing I can do!..

    Peace out!

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    define what you mean by offsite at hospitals please.

    Yes I know many people who transferred to AUSOM and pretty much all of them did it because they couldn't pass at windsor, some of them are my friends who made bad decisions academically. It has hurt them, they aren't getting great clinical experience, and they still can't pass their boards b/c they chose the easy way out as opposed to reflection and self-improvement.

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    Hello I was just wondering if we have a withdrawal from a course at another school can we still take a retake exam, and for a course that was failed how much does it cost to take a retake exam and are they given in the US or on the island, and how frequently are they given during the semester or how often. Hope someone would be kind enough to answer these questions. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmd36 View Post
    Hello I was just wondering if we have a withdrawal from a course at another school can we still take a retake exam, and for a course that was failed how much does it cost to take a retake exam and are they given in the US or on the island, and how frequently are they given during the semester or how often. Hope someone would be kind enough to answer these questions. Thanks!

    Anyone have info???? Thanks!

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