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    6thyearfudanmbbsstudent is offline Newbie 510 points
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    I'm a 6th year MBBS student at Fudan, ask me anything!

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    I'm currently in my internship year. I haven't been on this forum in a long time and realize that information on here may be out of date.

    Ask me anything about the program, life in Shanghai, etc. I'll wait till there are a bunch of questions, compile them into a list, and answer them point by point. I'll try my best to get other current students to answer some questions as well.

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    Hi!

    Thanks for this! It's quite difficult to gain an honest opinion about what the uni is like since there are lots of contradictory messages, mainly from touts or people who push their opinions as facts, so its great to be able to speak to someone who's there and has been through it all!

    I'll be starting the MBBS program this year and my main questions would be:

    1) Would you recommend the course to others? Some people have said that despite its reputation, the English standard of lecturers on the course and lack of exposure to clinical placements means that the course isn't worth it- would you agree with this? Or does it depend on certain topics/Lecturers?

    2) Are there big differences between bthe chinese course and English mbbs? I.e. does the Chinese course get preferential treatment or better equipment? And do you mix much? (Again just something I read somewhere).

    3) How successful have previous studentsection been at gaining jobs abroad? Are there any who have moved into the UK (where I would ideally like to practice), the US, Australia or anywhere really?

    4) How easy is it to do your internship abroad? Is it all done yourself? And does the name Fudan help you gain places? I know that the uni is part of the Universitas 21-can English mbbs student take advantage of collaboration with these unis also?

    5) How expensive is shanghai to live? I want to budget as least as possible (whilst still enjoying my time). I know everybody has a different view of what this means, but what would you say a conservative budget would be? Is 2000 yuan a month too little?

    Thanks so much again! And sorry if there's a lot here! You can add me on ruisi4315 if it makes it easier to chat. 😀

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    6thyearfudanmbbsstudent is offline Newbie 510 points
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisi View Post
    Hi!

    Thanks for this! It's quite difficult to gain an honest opinion about what the uni is like since there are lots of contradictory messages, mainly from touts or people who push their opinions as facts, so its great to be able to speak to someone who's there and has been through it all!

    I'll be starting the MBBS program this year and my main questions would be:

    1) Would you recommend the course to others? Some people have said that despite its reputation, the English standard of lecturers on the course and lack of exposure to clinical placements means that the course isn't worth it- would you agree with this? Or does it depend on certain topics/Lecturers?

    The program is what you make of it. The English lectures are sufficient for years 1, 4, & 5. Keep in mind, every student has different goals as to where they want to practice after graduating, and it's impossible to satisfy the needs of every student, so a lot of self-studying will have to be done. The curriculum is the exact same as the Chinese program; the only difference is that it has been translated into English. So, the diseases they emphasize have high epidemiological occurrence in China. For example, cystic fibrosis is not high yield here but tuberculosis is. Your clinical experience is like anywhere else. It depends on what you make of it. They let you be as hands on as you want to be.

    Lecturers are chosen based on whether or not they're experts in their specific field, not based on their teaching or English ability. Some lecturers are great at lecturing, some not so much. The student body has helped counter-act these deficiencies with peer tutoring and a large study-bank.


    2) Are there big differences between bthe chinese course and English mbbs? I.e. does the Chinese course get preferential treatment or better equipment? And do you mix much? (Again just something I read somewhere).

    Actually, I would argue the English course gets preferential treatment. We're able to have a lot more say about our education than the local students. We have received training and access to facilities that the local students haven't. You really only mix with the local students during year 6.

    3) How successful have previous studentsection been at gaining jobs abroad? Are there any who have moved into the UK (where I would ideally like to practice), the US, Australia or anywhere really?

    The program is pretty young. I think our first class graduated a few years ago in 2014. I don't have statistics on placements, but of the people that I know, the one person who wanted to go to the UK is a fully registered physician there. 2 alumni matched into internal medicine in the US (100% match rate). Of the 8 people I know who took USMLE step 1, they scored between 240-260. I don't know anyone who wanted to go to Australia. I know the Thais and Malays got to go back to their countries to practice. Some are practicing here in China. You have to be self-motivated. The school's not going to help you get residency/job placements.

    4) How easy is it to do your internship abroad? Is it all done yourself? And does the name Fudan help you gain places? I know that the uni is part of the Universitas 21-can English mbbs student take advantage of collaboration with these unis also?

    It's all done yourself except for the universitas 21, or whatever it's called; they help you with that. I have 3 classmates doing clinical rotations in the US through that program. But, for everyone else that did rotations abroad, which are many, they didn't have any problems doing it themselves. Everyone tries to get into the "prestigious" hospitals for rotations (e.g. Mayo, Columbia, Cornell, Harvard, Cleveland, Oxford, etc.) and they haven't had any problems getting in.

    5) How expensive is shanghai to live? I want to budget as least as possible (whilst still enjoying my time). I know everybody has a different view of what this means, but what would you say a conservative budget would be? Is 2000 yuan a month too little?

    Shanghai can be as cheap as you want it to be, and as expensive as you want it to be. Your biggest cost is going to be rent. Unfortunately, in my time here, rent has more than doubled. For a 1-br apartment, you're looking at 4,500-9,000RMB. Dorms are 1800-2800 I think. The rest of your budget is all on you. You can eat at the school's canteen for 10rmb a meal, or you can go eat at Michelin starred restaurants for thousands of rmb. You can drink beers from the convenience store for 3rmb, or you can go sip on martinis at fancy lounges and clubs for 90rmb. Catch my drift?

    I will say this: living in Shanghai has afforded me the ability to live a cosmopolitan lifestyle, a la the jazz age, on a student's budget. I'd be in major debt if I tried to live the same lifestyle in a first world city like NYC or London.


    Thanks so much again! And sorry if there's a lot here! You can add me on ruisi4315 if it makes it easier to chat. 😀
    Let me know if there's anything else you'd like to know.

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    Hey guys.. I'm thinking of applying for Medicine or Dentistry in China.
    Are there any February or March intakes? Are there international students from UK or US? and is China safe for international students?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamjarz View Post
    Hey guys.. I'm thinking of applying for Medicine or Dentistry in China.
    Are there any February or March intakes? Are there international students from UK or US? and is China safe for international students?

    Thanks!
    To be best of my knowledge, China only admits students in September. No March or February intake.

    Yes, there are international students from UK, which I am one. Got two more in my class anyway.

    Yes, China is safe for international students. Been here over 2 years; haven't been in any trouble. Follow rules and regulations of the country and you will be just fine.

    Feel free to check my blog where u will find more information about my university.
    Pbmed dot WordPress dot com.

    Not too sure about valuemd policies for posting Web address, hence the reason why I posted it that way.

    Cheers
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    Hello,

    First of all, thank you for your availability to answer questions.


    I am a 1st year medical student in Russia, and I am quite disappointed with the quality of the education and the treatment that I receive here in Moscow, therefore, I am looking to transfer to somewhere else. I have some questions regarding the Fudan University, if you could answer them, it would be great.


    1) I would like to know if you have ever heard about international students that were able to transfer from another university to Fudan University? Or if you do not know, do you know any information about transfers in general? If I want to study there, am I obliged to start from the 1st year? I can not transfer?

    2) How hard is it to get accepted? I have the recomendation letters, but I do not have any extracurricular activities related to the medical area, would this be a barrier in order to get enrolled?



    Thanks for your attention,

    Best regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edu View Post
    Hello,

    First of all, thank you for your availability to answer questions.


    I am a 1st year medical student in Russia, and I am quite disappointed with the quality of the education and the treatment that I receive here in Moscow, therefore, I am looking to transfer to somewhere else. I have some questions regarding the Fudan University, if you could answer them, it would be great.


    1) I would like to know if you have ever heard about international students that were able to transfer from another university to Fudan University? Or if you do not know, do you know any information about transfers in general? If I want to study there, am I obliged to start from the 1st year? I can not transfer?

    2) How hard is it to get accepted? I have the recomendation letters, but I do not have any extracurricular activities related to the medical area, would this be a barrier in order to get enrolled?



    Thanks for your attention,

    Best regards
    Hey,

    To the very best of my knowledge, Chinese medical universities do not accept transfers. If you want to study in one, you will have to begin from scratch irrespective of what you year you are in your current university. However, I have heard of only one case where the person was able to transfer from one Chinese medical university to another, but that was a university in Wuhan. And even that, he was pushed one year back, thus, instead of starting 3rd year, he had to start from 2nd year.
    All the best in whatever decision you end up with but just a word of advice, studying medicine generally depends on the individual, not the school. I have seen people who don't go for lectures but are very good just by watching video lectures from YouTube and reading textbooks on their own.
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    Zhejiang University School Of Medicine, Institute of Neuroscience

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    Hi, thanks for your comments, really appreciate it .

    I just want to know about the postgraduate medical training programs that are offered in English language in many Chinese universities.. how effective and credible are they ? is Chinese a must or English alone would be fair enough ? is there enough clinical training g at hospitals ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6thyearfudanmbbsstudent View Post
    I'm currently in my internship year. I haven't been on this forum in a long time and realize that information on here may be out of date.

    Ask me anything about the program, life in Shanghai, etc. I'll wait till there are a bunch of questions, compile them into a list, and answer them point by point. I'll try my best to get other current students to answer some questions as well.
    im an American student and was wondering how you financed your studies? I am having difficulty getting personal loans and federal aid is not available for Fudan. Help I really want to apply but am low on funds! also did you room with fellow mobs students? thanks for reply!

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    Hey,
    I am not too sure as to what you mean by postgraduate training? Do you mean Specialty training? If that's what you mean, then yeah, Chinese is a must cos you will be dealing with patients who speak little or no English at all. And even those who speak little English do not want to speak English with you. To the best of my knowledge, there really is adequate clinical training at the hospital if your Chinese is good. I currently have two friends doing their training in China at ZJU, one is into Orthopaedic surgery and the other is Cardiothoracic surgery. They both seem to be doing good if not excellent. If your Chinese is not good and you still want to come to China, i would advise you take up a Chinese language course, even if for 6 months, get a grasp of the language well cos it will really really help you and you would learn a lot.
    The very best to you in your future endeavours.

    Cheers.



    Quote Originally Posted by iyad View Post
    Hi, thanks for your comments, really appreciate it .

    I just want to know about the postgraduate medical training programs that are offered in English language in many Chinese universities.. how effective and credible are they ? is Chinese a must or English alone would be fair enough ? is there enough clinical training g at hospitals ?
    --
    'The greatest glory in living lies not in never falling, but in rising everytime we fall'

    Ben
    BSc. (Hons), MBBS (3rd year)
    Zhejiang University School Of Medicine, Institute of Neuroscience

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