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    WildCharm is offline Newbie 510 points
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    MBBS in China?? :D

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    Hey guys!
    I'm planning to do MBBS in China... And majority of the unis teach in Chinese :/
    I would like to know the best unis for Medicine, approved by MOE, medium of instruction - English.
    Good quality education, good teachers, good campus, good hostel/boarding.
    Sichuan or Wuhan or Fudan or Zhejiang or whichever!
    Fudan and Zhejiang seem to be the hype here for some reason..
    So anyone studying MBBS in China, please tell me which unis are good and why, and which are not.
    Thanks :*

    ----WildCharm

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    Fudan's probably the best in this department (this includes their ties with universities overseas). I'd place Zhejiang as 2nd. If you want to consider other factors, including location and costing: Shanghai is more 'international' than Zhejiang, but Zhejiang University's tuition fees are considerably lower than that of Fudan University.

    There are other things to consider as well. For example, Fudan University has an extremely strict staff and they follow extremely strict rules and regulations. A friend of mine who did her Masters there told me that if anyone skipped classes for 3 consecutive days with no valid reason, they would either be kicked out of the program or they would not be allowed to sit the exams for those classes that they missed. If you're not a truant student, then this should not be a problem. But if you can foresee some level of class-skipping with no valid reason (or if you have a part-time job in the city to help you make ends meet), then you should pick a more lenient university. I know that some universities in China will even allow their students to retake a test. Not that I would encourage such a system, but that's just how it works.
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    Yeah Fudan seems pretty cool. I mean they have wonderful professors, and their admissions are quite selective too.
    Fudan and Zhejiang are the only ones on my list now. I wont be applying for another year and six months, but I wanted to start checking out universities early.
    I really want to get into Fudan. Zhejiang is nice too but the student body is MASSIVE and quite carefree from what I've heard. I WANT to study lol
    Really? Gosh. Thankfully I'm not one of the class skippers.
    I'll get into Fudan InshaAllah.
    Where do you study Squintgeek?

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    Now that I'm 2 weeks into classes at Fudan, I can confirm their attendance policy. It depends on the course, but some courses have that rule, where if you miss more than 3 days, you will automatically fail the course, or won't be able to take the final exam (which means you fail the course). But those classes only meet once a week. Most other classes are more lenient than that where you can't miss more than 30% of the class, but your participation grade may fall short if you miss class. 2012's class size is small: 17 students. Mainly comprised of American, Canadian, British, and Thai students. The others are from Malaysia, Australia, South Korea, Hong Kong, and Indonesia. About half of us already have bachelor's degrees, one with a master's degree in biomedical science. All of us have very interesting backgrounds. The professors are great. My biology professor did her PhD and postdoc at UT-Austin, chemistry professor did his PhD and postdoc at Harvard, and physics professor did her PhD and postdoc at UC-Berkeley. So, they have all-star resumes, their English abilities are on par with professors in the US, and they're very nice. Chinese students are allowed to take the same courses as us, and we are allowed to take the same courses as them (but I won't because my Chinese ability sucks). We have several Chinese students in the medical school taking our courses with us, because they want to learn the subjects in English. Having already earned a degree from Purdue University in the States, I have a good reference point as to how course instruction should be, and I'm quite impressed with the lectures at Fudan.

    Study-life balance is the same as in the States. So far we've gone out every weekend and on a few weekdays. There's a super large international student population at Fudan studying various subjects, but they're mostly exchange students. The food at the canteens are great and cheap, Walmart is 1 block away from school, there's a million restaurants surrounding the school, and the #10 Metro line is caddycorner to Walmart. The dorms for international students aren't too bad: 2400rmb/month for a single bedroom with your own private bathroom and shower (and they have regular western toilets, not squatter toilets). I am married, and live 10 minutes away by walking from our classroom in an apartment. That's actually closer to our classroom than the dorms, but I pay 3000rmb/month. I would recommend everyone to live in the dorm their first year, unless they're in a similar situation as me.

    To be honest, just look at Fudan and Zhejiang. Zhejiang's program is a million times better than any other Chinese uni, but Fudan's program is a billion times better than Zhejiang's program. These English MBBS programs are in their infancy, and the only school that seems to get it right is Fudan.

    But, you're an adult, make your own educated decision. These are the observations of someone who had the same questions as you when I started looking at medical schools in China last year. I've made my own conclusions by visiting each school I was interested in, and thoroughly interviewing current American students. Feel free to ask me anything you want, I'd be happy to help.
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    That's nice... That's what I really wanted to know - the professors.
    Physics professor?? Why do you have physics in an MBBS program??
    Cool, isnt it?? Having a class with people from different cultures and backgrounds??
    That's one reason I want to join med school in China. People from SO MANY different backgrounds come together...
    Food, check. WalMart, check.
    Western toilets, CHECK xD Hallelujah!! Oh thank God.

    Fudan it is then. I have no other choice. InshaAllah I'll get through. Fingers crossed. I hope I'm good enough. But it's gonna be in 2014 most probably.

    Hahaha I'm not an adult yet
    Yeah I'm one of those right-out-of-highschool-med-school-here-I-come freaks. Whom you people find it difficult to imagine treating patients lol.
    But I'm serious about this.

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    Ooh and one more thing - I HAVE NOT taken math as my high school subject. Well everybody's definition of 'high school' is different. By HS here, I mean 11th and 12th grade. I have studied math till sophomore year, i.e, grade 10. Is that a problem??
    I've taken Physics, Chemistry, Biology and Biotechnology now. That is, in 11th and 12th grade.

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    The reason why you take basic sciences and maths for a medical degree is because they are the basic foundations of medical sciences. You want to treat someone's eyes, but you don't know the basics of optics? You want to be a cardiologist, but you don't know fluids? These are basic physics problems. Kinematics relates to all motion on Earth. You're useless if you don't have the basic knowledge in all maths and sciences. Try to take calculus before you get here. We take university level calculus here in the first year. I don't know whether or not that will affect admissions, but you should take it because you want to.

    The curriculum here is at a lightning fast pace. I've been out of school for a while, and so has my British friend who has his Master's degree, and we're having a wee bit of trouble keeping up.

    Again, I see nothing wrong with someone coming into medical school right out of high school. I just know that it's very hard for someone at that age to know what they want to do for the rest of their lives. The US has a very good system of making kids go to University first to get a bachelor's before going to medical school. About 90% of the kids that say they want to be a doctor when they enter University, change their minds by the end of their bachelor's degree. Even then, medical schools prefer that applicants have had worked for a few years after getting their bachelor's degree before coming to med school so that they have a better idea of what they want to do with the rest of their lives. So, I have nothing personally against someone that makes the decision to go into medical school right out of high school, I just hope it's what they really want to do for the rest of their lives.

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    I remember having a few friends who skipped classes to work in order to make ends meet (incl. paying tuition fees, living expenses) and I always admired them because they were independent. Although for something as serious as Medicine, where people's lives are in your hands I don't think it would be wise for anyone to skip classes let alone try to balance med school and a job.

    @WildCharm - Haha, it doesn't matter if you're old or young, intelligent or stupid when you start med school. The most important thing is being able to excel. Our journey may be different, but our destination is the same. You can never really know if this is what you want, until you're actually doing it. You may love the course, but hate the practice and vice versa. They only way of knowing, is by doing it. So I wouldn't worry about starting med school fresh out of high school.

    @Shui3000 - I also worry about being able to keep up, mainly because I've been "out of order" for a long time. I've installed a few flashcard apps on my phone to refresh my memory before I start med school. There are some great stuff out there.

    I'll be a non-trad (I'm 29 but I'll be 30 when I start) and gosh, I hate the idea of looking like the idiot who joined the class 10 years later. I'm sure there will be students who think that I finally graduated high school at 30, haha! I did a language year in China, and there were a few older students in my class (one was 30+ and another was around 60 I think) and they were just 'SLOW'! Some of us were already writing essays one month into the Mandarin course, and the two older students had difficulty throughout, even near the end of the school year. I'm not sure what their problem was. Perhaps they had other priorities but I'm pretty sure the less open-minded students felt that these older students were just plain stupid.

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    @Shui3000 - Ahaan.. Okay We do calculus in 12th I guess, so I may have to attend tuitions.
    "but you should take it because you want to" - Take what?? :/
    Can you please find out whether it's okay, not taking math in 11th and 12th? It would mean a lot
    But it's too late now. I can't change to math.

    Yeah that's true. They realise they can't do it after getting into med school. But MANY countries follow the system of getting into med school right after high school.
    Last edited by WildCharm; 09-23-2012 at 10:13 AM.

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    How do I apply to Fudan?? If not *****, can we do it directly through Fudan's site?

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