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07-10-2016, 09:54 AM
hello guys I want as much information about the medical university of lodz as possible about the lifestyle, its accreditation, level of education, the environment in general and what are the pros and cons a student might face in joining this university in particular I would appreciate all your honest openions

12-16-2016, 11:47 AM
hey there,

Current student here. sorry for the late reply, but i can give a quick description of the general MUL experience..(MD program)

Lifestyle: not sure what u mean, but one could say that the lifestyle is very laid back, especially depending on how much work u put into studying. Most classes that are NOT NBME classes (NBME classes = Anatomy, biochemistry, microbio, epidemiology, pharm, patho) are poorly taught and poorly tested , especially with the past papers being a fundamental part of the studies which allow large amounts of students to pass what we call the "small courses." Students are generally laid-back also, most exams are studied from past papers, and powerpoint presentations a few days before.
Most students are not from English speaking countries; they are from all over the Middle East and some from Europe and a small hand-full from USA and the Commonwealth.

Accreditation : fairly ok in europe and asia, not so much in the USA unfortunately. the States have accreditation in different states so one must look that up rigorously to check that information. the accreditation should not worry you, however...passing exams of the chosen country you want to practice in will be the biggest obstacle

Level of education : this is where it goes downhill. I would say poor. Why? the question is truly : what exam are you studying for? Which country are you planning on working in? if u want to go to the USA, you have to pass the USMLE steps (4 big exams) . The big "step 1" exam in made up of subjects that are mentioned earlier (ie Anatomy, biochemistry, microbio, epidemiology, pharm, patho etc) These MAY technically be tested by American exams called NBMEs, and doing all the NBME prep will allow you to take the step 1 exam confidently. This is the problem, however, that the NBMEs are removed from the final exams since the majority of students don't want them. The students don't want the NBMEs because they are hard, require weeks of studying and TRULY test your knowledge, plus cheating is VERY difficult, if not impossible, for these exams. Ultimately, you may find yourself only doing 2-4 NBME exams during your studies, and even those are “bell curved” meaning you can fail but if the whole class fails the teacher will lower the passing score (even to 40%). Without these exams, the USMLE steps will be a SEVERE struggle. To add to that point, the doctors and teachers have little to no clue on how to prep students for these American exams (which makes sense considering they are european doctors with european degrees). USMLE prep will be given to you from students from older years, but CANNOT be crammed.
In addition, USMLE prep books will not be a lot of help for local quizzes and tests, since there are conflicting pieces of information

Want to stay in Europe? cool, but here it depends where. From what i know, to practice in Poland, you have to pass the LEK exam (final med school exam in poland) The problem however, is that the teachers do not prep you for the LEK exam, since they consider English-division students as "foreigners" that will not stay in poland anyways..so preparing for the LEK will almost be even harder since reference books are in polish and VERY FEW students who are studying with you will be preparing for these exams, so it will be impossible to find a study "network". Don't know what the deal is with UK, or others, but you would need a high GPA with impressive credentials to get interviewed and accepted.

Day-to- day classes: For preclinical classes, it's just a teacher reading off a powerpoint presentation that will be given to you at the end of the class if u bring a USB drive. Classes rarely have quizzes or tests, mostly just an exam at the end.
The spoken English of most doctors is quite ok, considering, but it’s nothing close to fluent..
Never will you have a group project, maybe a presentation with a partner that you can choose (always ends up being the same people pairing up)
MANY individuals plagiarize and there is NO plagiarizing policy, so you will not get caught....

For clinical classes, lots of standing around in your lab coat, taking a patient history. Interpretation by the teacher into Polish is always needed and back into English for the students. Much less frequently, you may do a physical exam on a patient. Teachers in clinical classes are different almost every day, making it hard for follow-up questions.

THERE IS RARELY A SYLLABUS for a class, which was supposed to have changed years ago but unfortunately, it isn't in practice.

For local exams, info is found on the endless powerpoints, and they are confusing and sometimes incorrect! A huge issue has been that mistakes are made on the exam by the prof, and they will NOT change their decision, even with the textbook in front of them proving them wrong.

TL; DR ?
Significantly different from Western Europe and American education systems imho. No direction or purpose...in preclinical classes , nor in clinical classes.

Environment in general: ok. Hard to get around the first 2 years of school since the city has very limited resources. Dorms are quite ok, depending on what you're used to.
The city is very cheap, groceries for a week will cost you 150-200zl (50-100$)
The city can be scary, for all ethnicities, to be honest. Some nice cafes and malls, and a new train station, and the city, as well as MUL building are being built. The modern European stylings in the new library and lecture rooms are still seemingly a facade to what goes on in the administration.

- you'll pass
- you'll get a diploma
- manufaktura is cool
- past papers galore

- you will not know much
- finding a job as a physician will be the biggest struggle

Anything you would like to know, just shout
Sorry for the poor spelling :P
thanks for your questions,

MUL student

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