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Boris Vladimirovich
05-13-2015, 08:46 PM
Hey everyone,

Was wondering if you guys think I would get in and what my other potential options be for applying?

Thanks for your time.

Boris Vladimirovich
05-14-2015, 10:06 AM
bump **************

Boris Vladimirovich
05-18-2015, 08:49 AM
????? anyone ??

Tricuspid
05-25-2015, 08:27 PM
Great GPA but you definitely need to rewrite that MCAT. If you want to apply to the UK you can write the UKCAT. If you do well and you have ECs you have a good shot in the UK as well.

Summer2013
05-25-2015, 10:18 PM
Why not try with some of the US DO schools. They are flexible with GPA and MCAT scores. Recently my daugther got accepted into a good DO school. MCAT 27 and GPA 3.65.

Tricuspid
05-26-2015, 02:55 PM
It won't work with such a low MCAT. OP needs to rewrite his MCAT to have a shot.

Boris Vladimirovich
05-28-2015, 02:17 PM
Would they offer me the 5 year program if i can't get into the 4 year ? Also could I just apply for the 5 year next year if I don't get accepted? With my GPA i should get into the 5 year right ?

Tricuspid
05-28-2015, 02:40 PM
Would they offer me the 5 year program if i can't get into the 4 year ? Also could I just apply for the 5 year next year if I don't get accepted? With my GPA i should get into the 5 year right ?

I think one school does this, maybe King's College London. Other schools don't say it so I presume no.

You only have a shot with the 5 year if you have a good UKCAT score and good high school grades. They look at high school grades for UK applicants not sure about international ones though.

Summer2013
05-28-2015, 02:44 PM
Why not apply for MS in Life Science program. That is a 1 year program essentially covers first year of the medical school. If you do well then Medical school would consider you for admission at their school. LECOM and several other schools has a similar program. This is the best bet. You build a strong foundation towards medical school. You also get to take MCAT again. Since you are in the same school they get a chance to get to know you and offer the admission in their medical school. More than all it is US based degree so you'll be eligible for US financial aid. Why not take a look into it. I looked at those programs for my daughter, luckily she get her self into a good DO school on her own.

Torontomed
05-28-2015, 03:12 PM
Check out the "DO underdog thread" on SDN. There are applicants who get interviewed/accepted with your stats so it's not impossible. Apply to schools like LUCOM, Burrell etc.
Your GPA is great. I'd re-take the MCAT and apply early May next cycle.

Boris Vladimirovich
05-28-2015, 04:43 PM
I want to be an MD not a DO !

Tricuspid
05-28-2015, 04:44 PM
I want to be an MD not a DO !

Most important question is are you American or not?

devildoc8404
05-28-2015, 06:33 PM
I want to be an MD not a DO !

It's your call, of course, but in the long run? Freaking potato-potahto.

My US-based DO friends and colleagues who are cardiologists and ENTs and neurosurgeons and OBGyns and EM-bubbas are physicians. They are "Dr. McGillicuddy," not "Osteopath McGillicuddy."

I understand that there exists DO-itchiness (or scratchiness, or whatever) among a certain subset of the population, but if I were choosing between most of the Carib and a DO School? The latter, in a heartbeat.

Be that as it may, I will not likely be the one to quell your misgivings, dear OP. Buuuuut as a foreign-trained MD, allow me to at least recommend taking a look at osteopathic medical schools. Some of them are pretty outstanding and their match rates are tremendous.

Good luck to you, whichever pathway you wind up taking.

Summer2013
05-28-2015, 07:38 PM
My Daughter is starting her medical school in August at UNECOM to become a DO. Knowing her personality, I have been a strong advocate and encouraged her to go to DO school. She attended some of the open houses at UNECOM and now she thanks me that I suggested her to go to DO school and she really likes UNECOM and looking forward to get started with the program. To be honest, when I started med school, I did not know about DO schools. I would have gladly applied to DO schools instead of starting at a Caribbean school. Now I am preparing my second daughter to start her Med school most likely she might goto UNECOM as well. I work for a cluster of 7 large Hospitals and I shadow several doctors and residents there. Many of them are graduates of DO schools and they are damn good. I would not put down DO Schools or DO residents / Doctors. If some one can get into a good MD school then it is good. Just because they went to DO school, that does not mean they are any less Doctors than those who went to MD school or International Medical School.

devildoc8404
05-28-2015, 07:52 PM
UNECOM is beautiful, right where the Saco River and Atlantic Ocean meet. Southern Maine is truly a gorgeous place to live and study (Winters can be a little rough, and pretty long, but you spend most of it inside studying anway!). I am sure that she will be extremely happy there, Summer2013. Good luck to you and your kids, you will have quite the medical family when all is said and done...

Summer2013
05-28-2015, 09:04 PM
UNECOM is beautiful, right where the Saco River and Atlantic Ocean meet. Southern Maine is truly a gorgeous place to live and study (Winters can be a little rough, and pretty long, but you spend most of it inside studying anway!). I am sure that she will be extremely happy there, Summer2013. Good luck to you and your kids, you will have quite the medical family when all is said and done...

Thanks devildoc. I am a proud Dad. My 16 year old twin daughter is going to National Brian Bee championship competition. Dartmouth Medical college is going to provide her training for the competition and pay for expenses to travel to Maryland. Hope she will win the National Championship and move forward towards International Championships. Ironic, she wants to become any thing but Doctor, but she is slowly being brought into Medicine as well. Now Dartmouth is sponsoring her high school competition, training her for competetion and pay for all travel and expenses to attend the competiton. Who knows, she might as well get into Dartmouth Medical college in the next few years. We will see. I am happy for her and my other daughters. Yes, you are right, we are going to have strong medical family in our house. Now the pressure is on me to complete my STEP1 and Clinical Training and become an MD before one of my daughters beat and become a Doctor before I would become one. In the end, I am so happy and proud, I am able to guide kids in the right direction and help them to make their dream comes true. I can not be more happier.

Boris Vladimirovich
05-28-2015, 09:34 PM
It's your call, of course, but in the long run? Freaking potato-potahto.

My US-based DO friends and colleagues who are cardiologists and ENTs and neurosurgeons and OBGyns and EM-bubbas are physicians. They are "Dr. McGillicuddy," not "Osteopath McGillicuddy."

I understand that there exists DO-itchiness (or scratchiness, or whatever) among a certain subset of the population, but if I were choosing between most of the Carib and a DO School? The latter, in a heartbeat.

Be that as it may, I will not likely be the one to quell your misgivings, dear OP. Buuuuut as a foreign-trained MD, allow me to at least recommend taking a look at osteopathic medical schools. Some of them are pretty outstanding and their match rates are tremendous.

Good luck to you, whichever pathway you wind up taking.

They make way less money in canada like 80K vs 250K

Summer2013
05-28-2015, 09:48 PM
Why so low? Then you should move to US, as far as I know there is no difference in pay between MD and DO.

They make way less money in canada like 80K vs 250K

Tricuspid
05-28-2015, 10:14 PM
That isn't true, there are very few DOs in Canada, but the ones that are here are going to be licensed just like anyone else and make just as much as anyone else.

Tricuspid
05-28-2015, 10:15 PM
That isn't true, there are very few DOs in Canada, but the ones that are here are going to be licensed just like anyone else and make just as much as anyone else. There isn't that much point discussing DO option if Boris isn't a US or Canadian citizen. The easiest way to help him would be to first know his nationality.

Torontomed
05-28-2015, 10:34 PM
They make way less money in canada like 80K vs 250K

This is incorrect. DO's match as CMG's (Canadian Medical Graduate) in BC and MB, and have the same practicing rights and compensations as a MD.
Granted, from my knowledge, you'll be considered an IMG for the other provinces when it comes to matching. If the designations bother you i guess you should just pursue MD.

Boris Vladimirovich
05-29-2015, 09:51 AM
That isn't true, there are very few DOs in Canada, but the ones that are here are going to be licensed just like anyone else and make just as much as anyone else. There isn't that much point discussing DO option if Boris isn't a US or Canadian citizen. The easiest way to help him would be to first know his nationality.

Im Canadian

devildoc8404
05-29-2015, 12:34 PM
Nope. You have been misinformed in that regard. A specialist makes what a specialist makes, post-residency the MD or DO credential is immaterial at that point. There are significantly fewer DOs in Canada, yeah, but with the possible exception of an outlier who only does OMT (part-time?), a DO is board-certified and will make the same salary as colleagues with MD (or any other physician) credentialing.

With that said, a DO would probably have to complete residency in the US before jumping back to practice in Canada, but barring some personal circumstances... so what?


They make way less money in canada like 80K vs 250K

Boris Vladimirovich
05-29-2015, 04:17 PM
I just found out that I'm " on reserve at UCC, UCD and TCD" so there's still hope !

Tricuspid
05-29-2015, 11:51 PM
If you are Canadian it really is up to you whether or not you want to go abroad to the UK or go DO in the US. Both will give you the opportunity to train in the respective countries.

hummous
02-14-2017, 12:12 PM
I know this is a really old post but does anyone have info on international students applying to 5 year programs (with a bachelor's degree already completed)?







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