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Hatman
05-06-2014, 05:38 PM
So I recently got dismissed from MUA because I missed the pass mark by 2 points in path2. Admin didn't accept the appeal and now here I am. I have 2 questions.

1.) Is it worth applying to CMU for a transfer if path2 is the only thing I have to take over?

2.) CMU says they are applying for NY certification which matters to me the most since I want to do residency in NY. Exactly when did they apply and how long does it usually take?

I understand that path supposedly isn't well taught but I got that covered with all the path prep I did from MUA and pathoma. Please help!

cadmd4
07-18-2014, 01:06 PM
Hi Hatman:

How did your appeal go? It is always good to have a backup. There are many transfers that have switched to CMU including myself for clinicals. I am very happy with my transfer and I am very grateful for the opportunity. The transition was smooth and I started clinicals right away. The school was very attentive to my needs including my move, questions and even addressed the smallest concern I had. At the end of the day, a transfer looks better than a dismissal. However, if you have managed to work something out with the school than that is a different story.

NY boards requires a school be opened for a minimum of 10 yrs, The school is in process of working on NY approval for residency. You have to realize that these are newer institutions thus it is a matter of time. I can understand the frustration as NY is your first choice for residency. However, think of the bigger picture- if your desire to become a physician is greater than your choice of state to practice-nothing is stopping you.

You will still become a physician, as long as you work hard, persevere and follow through.

PM me if you have questions! We have all been where you are- will be glad to answer qs.

Cavalier
07-18-2014, 03:57 PM
"You will still become a physician, as long as you work hard, persevere and follow through."
++++++++++++++++++++++
good luck in Chicago

JVE/PhD
07-18-2014, 09:44 PM
Dear Hatman,

CMU is a very understanding institution. Feel free to contact the admissions office with your questions. They are extremely helpful and will be more than willing to assist you with the pros and cons of continuing your journey with CMU. I know your in a tight spot, transferring for a single course is never the option you hoped for. But keep in mind that others have done this, and succeeded.

Your close to your dreams, keep running my friend, and do not give up.

I wish you the most success in your Journey!



So I recently got dismissed from MUA because I missed the pass mark by 2 points in path2. Admin didn't accept the appeal and now here I am. I have 2 questions.

1.) Is it worth applying to CMU for a transfer if path2 is the only thing I have to take over?

2.) CMU says they are applying for NY certification which matters to me the most since I want to do residency in NY. Exactly when did they apply and how long does it usually take?

I understand that path supposedly isn't well taught but I got that covered with all the path prep I did from MUA and pathoma. Please help!

VMD_Opinionated
07-20-2014, 12:48 PM
Hey Hatman,

I know its very discouraging going through that situation, your post is from May, what's going on with you right now? Did you already find a school? Regardless of where you go. Look at your school's requirements for graduating from basic sciences, requirements for being able to take Step 1 and 2. Some schools will require you to pass their exit exams to get out of the basic science, others will required you to pass NBME exams to prove you are ready. It is not easy, but that's not why you chose medicine. The one thing I like about CMU is that they will help you as much as possible to accomplish your goals, they give as much support as U.S. Students get from U.S. schools. I believe this past May was the graduating ceremony for the first group of students who finished clinicals, and I see students getting all their documents ready to apply for residency this September. Hopefully we will see how many people matched to residency by the end of March.

If I was you I would call the school its self, go to the website and chat with a representative, or even better find a current student, a real student and ask questions.

Scott1981
07-20-2014, 07:36 PM
Hey Hatman,


One very important thing, don't pay attention to the paid trolls who go from forum to forum bashing schools just to drive students to quit or go to other less reputable schools. If I was you I would call the school its self, go to the website and chat with a representative, or even better find a current student, a real student and ask questions.

a wise choice would not to blanket everybody who questions a school as just another paid troll. you should be encouraging people to hear opinions from everyone and do their own research on it.......then and only then.....make a decision.

unfortunately, it has been proven on VMD that the CMU website has been less than truthful. due to that, it surely makes one wonder how truthful the information one would get from speaking with a school representative would turn out to be.

VMD_Opinionated
07-21-2014, 12:28 AM
:d........

CMU
07-21-2014, 04:26 PM
Dear Mr. Scott
Your posts are less than truthful so don't wonder real students call them paid troll. Please visit Summa Medical Education - Internal Medicine (http://meded.summahealth.org/residency-programs/internal-medicine/2013-2014-residents/internal-medicine) before posting false information over and over again.

No wonder VMD has such a bad reputation if even its moderators posting false information here. I would advise prospective students to visit our Facebook pages, talk to our students and get proper advices.

Doc
07-21-2014, 07:42 PM
No wonder VMD has such a bad reputation if even its moderators posting false information here.

Just thought I'd clarify VMD's role in posting.

VMD provides a platform for others to discuss medical education topics. We only intervene in order to moderate Terms of Service (TOS) issues. VMD never posts about specific programs, whether positive or negative, or otherwise attempts to steer opinions one way or the other. The only info that is provided by VMD on specific schools is objective information on the various school info pages (see http://www.valuemd.com/som.htm) such as tuition costs, location, etc.

Our Moderator Team is made up entirely of volunteers. In fact, all of them started out as regular active users before taking on their volunteer position, and most of them are IMGs (medical students, residents and licensed physicians). Unless they are posting in an official capacity, they are free to continue to post their own opinions the same as any other user. It should be noted that their personal views do not represent the views of VMD.

I believe the "reputation" of VMD is greatly enhanced by allowing users to discuss and debate the pros and cons of various programs, then allowing the readers to decide for themselves. If something is posted that you disagree with or believe may be false, I encourage you and/or others to dispute those statements by posting info that backs your points.

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Hope this helps.

Scott1981
07-21-2014, 08:41 PM
Dear Mr. Scott
Your posts are less than truthful so don't wonder real students call them paid troll. Please visit Summa Medical Education - Internal Medicine (http://meded.summahealth.org/residency-programs/internal-medicine/2013-2014-residents/internal-medicine) before posting false information over and over again.

No wonder VMD has such a bad reputation if even its moderators posting false information here. I would advise prospective students to visit our Facebook pages, talk to our students and get proper advices.

i think it has been well established that i took for word another poster that cmu had 4 residents in residency. i am glad you, as an offical CMU rep, have dropped by this thread since you disappeared from the previous thread when you had to answer for your website. if you are serious about "clearing the air" then you should have no problem answering the few questions. there was a misleading pie graph on your website, that you did not answer for, but quickly removed once it was pointed out. your website still references graduates that have "distinguished themselves as chief residents, researchers, and fellows." kind of hard to do if you have only 4 graduates in residency..... do you not agree?

i have no reason to have an agenda against cmu. i am just asking the important questions that i see arise from your school's marketing.

a little background on me. i started my med school journey over 10 years ago. i graduated 6 years ago and celebrated the day i never needed to pay another penny to my school, but was grateful for the opportunity they gave me. during my time post graduation, i have been involved in academic medicine, sat on resident selection committees, as well as been in private practice. i have no dog in this fight. what i do take interest in is guiding prospective students in what i perceive as the direction that will make them the most successful. it is tough coming from the caribbean. i feel there should abundant research about one of the most important and expensive decisions of their life. when making any big purchase, do you not do a cost analysis, compare other products, compare reviews from independent sources?

but in any case, back to the issue at hand. you as the CMU rep have the ability to clear the air and answer to the very valid questions about what i perceive as false information on your website. here is a link to the post. please, by all means, feel free to counter with any answers to my questions. http://www.valuemd.com/caribbean-medical-university-cmu/236851-questions.html#post1502592

as doc eloquently pointed out, moderators are still VMD users. we can still have opinions. when we become moderators, we agree to uphold the TOS......but we are not above the TOS. if you ever feel myself or another user or moderator violate the TOS, feel free to report the post and it will be reviewed.

CMU
07-22-2014, 01:00 AM
Excuse me but we have over 600 students to serve which are way more important that responding to negative posts on VMD over the same issue. It was stated that CMU does not have residents. CMU DOES HAVE RESIDENTS and I proved you wrong. Obviously you may have options as any other VMD member but please verify the facts before posting.

CMU
07-22-2014, 01:09 AM
I agree with you Doc but there is a difference between opinions and statements. Someone may say: I dont like VMD cause users are anonymous , but noone should state VMD manipulates posts without a proper proof.

Scott1981
07-22-2014, 02:28 AM
Excuse me but we have over 600 students to serve which are way more important that responding to negative posts on VMD over the same issue. It was stated that CMU does not have residents. CMU DOES HAVE RESIDENTS and I proved you wrong. Obviously you may have options as any other VMD member but please verify the facts before posting.

Really? Please do show me where I have said that recently? My questions about your website have specifically taken that your school has 4 residents as a given.

Very telling that that you cannot answer for your website.

Scott1981
07-22-2014, 02:38 AM
I agree with you Doc but there is a difference between opinions and statements. Someone may say: I dont like VMD cause users are anonymous , but noone should state VMD manipulates posts without a proper proof.

What you are asking for is censorship. Users are free to express their own opinion on a wide variety of matters. There is no reason you should be upset about these questions. Stonewalling and agreeing with some to call anybody with legit questions about very real discrepancies on your website as a paid troll will not do your school very good as a school rep. You have an open forum to set the record straight on your behalf. Stonewalling just adds to the speculation.

1215Ethix
05-09-2015, 08:14 PM
CMU is very good at stonewalling students among other atrocities

verokmed
05-16-2015, 05:01 PM
but at least VMD is very good at banning users like you who violates TOS

Cert.pls
05-16-2015, 10:10 PM
I don't really care either way.....but it is kind of strange that you would explain that under your own TOS there would not be any positive or negative views on it this website.....but yet Scotty the moderator seemed to have a rather 'strong' opinion on his concept of not liking the school, according to his last post. I mean moderating is like having no opinion...whereas it seemed like he had an opinion. Just a general assimilation. You know!

Scott1981
05-17-2015, 07:18 AM
I don't really care either way.....but it is kind of strange that you would explain that under your own TOS there would not be any positive or negative views on it this website.....but yet Scotty the moderator seemed to have a rather 'strong' opinion on his concept of not liking the school, according to his last post. I mean moderating is like having no opinion...whereas it seemed like he had an opinion. Just a general assimilation. You know!


moderators certainly can have an opinion. also, please read the TOS again, because it seems you are confused on what is and is not allowed on this website. my role is to simply make sure all the TOS are followed in an objective manner.







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