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prakashj
02-24-2014, 10:10 AM
I recently finished my Surgery rotation and now recall some of the questions I had before coming here. How does FIU HWCOM evaluate us? What would the hospital be like? Where would I live? In the past couple of weeks, Iíve learned the answers and gained a better perspective on what it means to be one of the first AUA students to participate in this program. If youíre on the fence about applying, I have some advice that may sway you.
Iíll start with the easy one: housing. Itís pretty fantastic. I live in a five bedroom house with other AUA students, which is great since Iím living with my classmates and instantly have friends in a new city. Housing is only about half a mile from the hospital. With such a busy schedule, itís nice to be within walking distance.
The hospital itself is quite nice and the staff and attendings are very friendly and helpful. I believe that the highest impact on the quality of any rotation is the quality of the attending/residents and we have an excellent preceptor for surgery. However, from a surgery perspective, the hospital is pretty low risk, meaning it is not really geared for more serious cases; so we don't often have the chance to be involved in emergency-type surgeries. It would be nice to have the option of rotating at other hospitals that are affiliated with FIU. However, I hear this is something that is being worked on right now.
I don't know that I would recommend doing all six cores here because itís nice to see other hospitals and how they do things. No matter where you go, there is always something new to learn and it shakes things up a little. Here I learned something crucial about treating patients that I wouldnít have learned elsewhere. Most of the patients Iíve seen speak Spanish. Itís tough to analyze a patientís condition when I canít understand what he/she is saying. Learning how to work with patients that donít speak English can be useful in hospitals in any major city. I've been getting a lot of exposure and itís a thoroughly edifying experience learning Spanish through immersive training.
Overall, Iím pleased with this rotation. Everyone is doing their best to accommodate us and ensure we get everything we can out of this rotation. Itís also a good program for people who choose to do it because of the contiguous nature of rotation scheduling. Also, no other clinical rotation can boast that it has a ready supply of Cuban coffee, which is one of the greatest things I've ever tasted.

lifesaver2
02-27-2014, 01:53 PM
Thanks for the info!
Could you provide a little insight on the requirements to get into FIU's program?

dhermon
02-28-2014, 09:08 AM
For more information about the program:

If you are an AUA student, please feel free to contact the clinical department for further information. They are happy to help.
If you are a prospective student, please contact the admissions department. We look forward to hearing from you!

(212) 661-8899

Hrithik4U
07-15-2015, 02:31 PM
This program has been out for about 2 years and only very limited sketchy information in public domain. Cannot understand why the secrecy. It is a good thing and information should be widely available, unless of course there is a reason not to publish it. How does entrance to this program work, in terms of process? I see on the AUA site, there is a different set of fees (about $5,000 extra per Semester, so about $20,000 for 4 Semesters, additional to regular Semester fees).. Is entrance to this program based on grades in Semester V? If we complete all core clerkship here, what are the options for electives? Does student also have option of completing electives here or have to complete them outside? How does completing clerkship from FIU affect chances of securing residencies? Also see full capacity for that med school is 480 per year. Does that include AUA students too?

I think publishing all the relevant info would be useful for AUA and should be included in the Student Hand book, or the website, which I could not find. Perhaps you can help elaborate on this chain, instead of just providing a number.

dhermon
07-16-2015, 11:12 AM
This program has been out for about 2 years and only very limited sketchy information in public domain. Cannot understand why the secrecy. It is a good thing and information should be widely available, unless of course there is a reason not to publish it. How does entrance to this program work, in terms of process? I see on the AUA site, there is a different set of fees (about $5,000 extra per Semester, so about $20,000 for 4 Semesters, additional to regular Semester fees).. Is entrance to this program based on grades in Semester V? If we complete all core clerkship here, what are the options for electives? Does student also have option of completing electives here or have to complete them outside? How does completing clerkship from FIU affect chances of securing residencies? Also see full capacity for that med school is 480 per year. Does that include AUA students too?

I think publishing all the relevant info would be useful for AUA and should be included in the Student Hand book, or the website, which I could not find. Perhaps you can help elaborate on this chain, instead of just providing a number.

I'm sorry you feel it's secretive. We're thrilled with our relationship with FIU; I'm happy to answer questions about the program or direct you to a person in our clinical department who has additional information. The grading policies for students in the FIU program mirror those of students in FIU. I encourage you to review information provided to prospective FIU students to get an idea of how typical policies clinical students there may expect.
Consideration in the clerkship program requires an additional application and a holistic review by the committee at FIU. They evaluate grades, exam scores and letters of recommendation when determining who to invite. Currently, there is no minimum to apply. FIU has ample seats for qualified interested AUA students. Elective rotations are possible but we encourage our students to work with AUA coordinators to try electives in other states and hospitals as this broadens the student's experience and allows for better networking before applying for residencies.
Students who complete their core rotations as part of the FIU affiliation receive a certificate from FIU in addition to their AUA MD degree. This additional certificate may be an enhancement to residency applications. Don't hesitate to reach out to us for additional information.

Hrithik4U
07-16-2015, 12:33 PM
This is useful information, and will certainly follow up at the right time. It might also help other hopefuls if this information makes it way to the Student Handbook, and to the AUA web site. I am excited at what this could mean for enhancing possibilities. Appreciate your response.

bolmd
09-08-2015, 12:03 PM
Why is it so difficult for students that have gone through this program to give some insights on it!! It is so hard to have them respond!! would be nice to hear from actual students.
I was wondering the time frame of AUA Curriculum and doing Rotations with FIU is you still finish within 4 years? if you have to do fifth semester FM/IM1 for 6 weeks?? seems like it overlaps with the time Rotations start at FIU!

Hrithik4U
09-08-2015, 03:18 PM
That is exactly the reason I raised the question in the first place - publishing all the information on AUA Webpage or Student Handbook would be helpful, and efficient. Above chain indicates that the school is happy to answer any questions, so I am sure school has all information available. It should not take more than few hours to put together all the information, and have it posted. Specially want to hear about experience of students who have studied through this program, like you outlined. My needs are not immediate, so hope they get it done soon.

bolmd
09-08-2015, 07:08 PM
Very odd!! and annoying at the same time…would be nice for students to help others, we are all in this together!! And be honest with the experience if it's bad share it so other people don't go thru it, or make it better. If it's good then talk about it so more students can be a part of it...

Hrithik4U
09-08-2015, 08:53 PM
Very odd!! and annoying at the same timeÖwould be nice for students to help others, we are all in this together!! And be honest with the experience if it's bad share it so other people don't go thru it, or make it better. If it's good then talk about it so more students can be a part of it...

Odd for sure. It is like not such a hard thing to do if they really had the information readily available. Should be able to pull this together without a lot of effort or even put up a simple facebook group together, which has been done by the school before for the new students. Logical conclusion is that this is not a priority for them or there is something more than meets the eye. Let's hope that this gets on their priority list.

dhermon
09-18-2015, 12:41 PM
I’m sorry our students don’t frequent Value MD or other social sites like they used to. There are a number of student run pages on Facebook, but our students typically find their time to participate in those sites is limited during medical school and residency. We do have a network of alumni who have agreed to share their contact information and communicate with students: https://www.auamed.org/graduate-success/contact-alum

Check out some of our “Day in the Life” videos there are a number of videos highlighting student experiences including FIU clinical experiences. https://www.auamed.org/#student-videos and this blog post by an AUA grad who participated in FIU clerkships: https://www.auamed.org/life-aua-clinical-student-fiu-hwcom-edition/

If you’re in the Miami area, please consider joining us for an Information Session at FIU. We’ll have clinical students, FIU faculty and AUA alum at the event. https://www.auamed.org/seminars

Feel free to email me additional content you feel should be added to our FAQ section, thank you.

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jjs4348
02-27-2016, 12:30 PM
I agree with you Ms. Hermon, Aua students don't often find the time aside from their studies to frequent this site to answer questions from future students. For what it's worth I'm a current clinical student at Aua and I personally know 6 students that have done the Fiu program however I am rotating in Atlanta...there is one thing to note, us clinical students talk among each other a lot about which rotations are good and which aren't so good...as for friends that have done the fiu program 4 said they are glad they did it and 2 said they felt it was equal to the other rotations (those 2 are doing electives here in Atlanta now after completing fiu core rotations)...I don't know if they chose fiu for a better experience but most I think choose it because the theory is that doing all rotations at an American medical school and receiving a transcript/certificate from that program will look good for residency...since none of the fiu students that I know have graduated yet I can't say whether or not it does in fact bear any weight but in theory it can't hurt...if you have the extra cash for the tuition then why not right? As for my clinical experience I can say that all Aua clinical cores are green book/acgme certified (important for residency in some states especially Texas) and I have no complaints about Dekalb medical in Atlanta...one thing I want to add is that we rotate with other schools and some Caribbean schools (1 other top Carib school and a few what I call tier 2 Carib schools). I won't say any names of schools bcuz I really don't have anything against the schools I just feel my Aua colleagues stand out in a crowd...idk if it's so much we are better prepared bcuz I'm sure everyone at this point knows their stuff but I feel like Aua instilled a bit of fear in all of us a (do or die mentality) that makes us over prepare and not slack off like I see a bunch of other schools students do...our standards to pass are quite a bit higher than other schools... For example our comp shelf score is set at a 72/205 equivalent on step in order to take step and Auc is set at a 68 or 69 which is right around passing at approx a 195 or so...my brother inlaw is a current Auc student so that's where I get my info from. But Aua doesn't really like when u just pass anything or just blend in... Their mentality is the more we stand out the more the school stands out...not a bad mindset if you ask me.







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