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sumbody1245
01-27-2014, 10:34 PM
Hey everyone. I have been out of college for a few years now, working, and applied to AUA back in college. I decided to finally complete the application and I got in for THIS semester, like in 2 weeks, to my surprise.

I know I can save 2 years of my life getting a masters by going to an international med school, but I am worried about AUA since they are a lower tier international med school. I want to avoid Family Practice and Internal Medicine at all costs, and I know the odds are stacked against me going to AUA, but its not impossible to say the least. I was thinking of taking off work for a semester, sitting down for the MCAT, and trying to get into a higher tier international school to better my odds of not getting into a bottom tier residency. But would really make that big of a difference going to Ross over AUA that it warrants me spending an extra semester studying for the MCAT?

Though the MCAT prep might be useful since I've been out of school for a while and barely remember anything, but I was under the impression that med school is there to prep you for Step 1 so they will teach you everything you need to know? Thanks beforehand for any replies!

EDIT: Forgot to mention my stats, 2.8 GPA, AUA told me I need the MCAT so I sat down and took it blind and got a 22. I can't get into an American med school regardless of how high I get my MCAT.

JCguy
01-29-2014, 09:47 AM
I am in the 4th semester at AUA (last semester on the island). I could list a number of reasons why not to come, but the reality is that going to med school anywhere is a challenge. I have friends that went to many US schools, and also Caribbean - and essentially it is all the same. You get a truck load of information and try to absorb and learn as much as you can a little time as possible.
Of course island life has many more sacrifices and many more frustrating moments. For me, the school did not prepare me for the challenges on the island. It gave an image of luxury and ease, when in reality it was more like being dropped in the middle of nowhere. The best advice would be plan for the worst and hope for the best. And remember that Caribbean schools are FOR PROFIT, don't be surprised to see tuition increasing ~$500 every semester, and paying for the semester before you register for classes and late fees for everything and anything. One other thing, although online you might see small classrooms, the reality is they did not show you the big ones. There are two huge rooms that can fit ~300 students in which ~80-90 % of all teaching is done. My class size in 1st semester was ~450 (even though I was told ~250) and every semester we lost ~20% who either failed, dropped out, or could not get loans - sad reality. Also don't count or believe any statistics they give you. With a little modification, statistics can say anything you want them to say. This is not to discourage you, but to keep you in reality. There are many students who were ahead of me who are now in clinical rotations at various hospitals. The school has been improving many things since I started but at a very slow pace. Hope this helped, let me know if you have any specific questions.

Raj25
01-29-2014, 10:22 AM
I am in the 4th semester at AUA (last semester on the island). I could list a number of reasons why not to come, but the reality is that going to med school anywhere is a challenge. I have friends that went to many US schools, and also Caribbean - and essentially it is all the same. You get a truck load of information and try to absorb and learn as much as you can a little time as possible.
Of course island life has many more sacrifices and many more frustrating moments. For me, the school did not prepare me for the challenges on the island. It gave an image of luxury and ease, when in reality it was more like being dropped in the middle of nowhere. The best advice would be plan for the worst and hope for the best. And remember that Caribbean schools are FOR PROFIT, don't be surprised to see tuition increasing ~$500 every semester, and paying for the semester before you register for classes and late fees for everything and anything. One other thing, although online you might see small classrooms, the reality is they did not show you the big ones. There are two huge rooms that can fit ~300 students in which ~80-90 % of all teaching is done. My class size in 1st semester was ~450 (even though I was told ~250) and every semester we lost ~20% who either failed, dropped out, or could not get loans - sad reality. Also don't count or believe any statistics they give you. With a little modification, statistics can say anything you want them to say. This is not to discourage you, but to keep you in reality. There are many students who were ahead of me who are now in clinical rotations at various hospitals. The school has been improving many things since I started but at a very slow pace. Hope this helped, let me know if you have any specific questions.


Just to echo what JCguy said, the harsh reality of AUA or any other caribbean school for that matter can never be over emphasized - and that is the over inflated statistics presented on the school website or the adcoms. I just wrote my step 1 and passed it (just received my results last week) and I have to honestly say AUA is not a school to make physicians. I started out in August 2011 with a class size of 350 students. And so far (almost 3 years later) I can only see a maximum of 20-25 have passed step 1 - and that is a huge failure. Not to mention securing residencies with an AUA degree. Yes, reputation does matter for residency directors when choosing students with similar step scores. AUA is notorious for cheating the school lost nbme privileges completely, not to mention losing clinical spots in certain States in the U.S. That does go a long way in your residency application status.

The clinical situation is not great - long waiting times and hardly anyone available (contrary to what the school website suggests) to help you along the way through your clinicals.

In the end, what does even getting a stellar 240+ step score get you with an AUA degree? - tons of student loans with high interests unpaid, maximum family medicine residency or a bottom line internal med residency 4-5 years after writing step 1.

JM_MD2017
01-29-2014, 12:28 PM
I also atteded AUA and I couldn't agree more with JCguy and Krish123. I left after one year and retook the MCAT and applied to lower end MD and DO schools. Going to AUA will only bring you more debt and a very unfulling education. The reason for you "quick" admission is because of the small incoming class size this spring and if you need the private loan, you better beable to qualify for buying a house because you need a 700+ credit score. You are better off doing a Postbac and retaking the MCAT then going to caribbean. Trust all three of us. If you can;t get into ROSS, AUC, St. George or Saba save your self sometime and take our advise.

sumbody1245
01-29-2014, 02:14 PM
The thing is I CAN'T go into a US med school. If I retake my MCAT, they won't give a DAMN how high I get in it with my GPA. Only way to go to a US med school would be to waste 2 more years getting a masters degree, at which point I would go into dentistry rather than medicine, because there's no residency period and the lifestyle of an non-specialized dentist>>>>non-specialized doctor.

So its basically AUA this semester or Ross next semester, which would be the better option? If there's not a big difference b/w the 2 there's no point in wasting a semester.

JM_MD2017
01-29-2014, 02:31 PM
The thing is I CAN'T go into a US med school. If I retake my MCAT, they won't give a DAMN how high I get in it with my GPA. Only way to go to a US med school would be to waste 2 more years getting a masters degree, at which point I would go into dentistry rather than medicine, because there's no residency period and the lifestyle of an non-specialized dentist>>>>non-specialized doctor.

So its basically AUA this semester or Ross next semester, which would be the better option? If there's not a big difference b/w the 2 there's no point in wasting a semester.

AZCOM has a one year Bio Med Program granting a Master of Arts in Science. So, don't say you can't b/c of your GPA. I had one of the better professors at AUA says that the DO programs do a better job in teaching system based medical school hands down. But if you have to go to med school in the caribbean, Ross is the best choice. Plus, they are Title IV funded. But remeber those schools weed you out. They accept 200 to 300 students at at the end 70 to 100 remian. You said your GPA was a 2.8 so taking upper division science courses probably wasn't your cup of tea. Honestly, a one year postbac is you best bet to a US med school and a MATCH. The Postbac will reflect how you will perform in med school and it will give you a new GPA for schools to look at. But in the end it's your choice to attend med school in a third world country.

sumbody1245
01-29-2014, 02:43 PM
Thanks for all the replies everyone!

AZCOM has a one year Bio Med Program granting a Master of Arts in Science. So, don't say you can't b/c of your GPA. I had one of the better professors at AUA says that the DO programs do a better job in teaching system based medical school hands down. But if you have to go to med school in the caribbean, Ross is the best choice. Plus, they are Title IV funded. But remeber those schools weed you out. They accept 200 to 300 students at at the end 70 to 100 remian. You said your GPA was a 2.8 so taking upper division science courses probably wasn't your cup of tea. Honestly, a one year postbac is you best bet to a US med school and a MATCH. The Postbac will reflect how you will perform in med school and it will give you a new GPA for schools to look at. But in the end it's your choice to attend med school in a third world country.
In the US my GPA is so damn low I can't even apply to bottom tier grad schools! I barely meet the MINIMUM requirement to APPLY to AZCOM's masters program. I don't know man, just getting into a US med school looks like a huge waste of time that will likely end up in me getting another undergrad because no grad school will take me.

Raj25
01-29-2014, 04:16 PM
Thanks for all the replies everyone!

In the US my GPA is so damn low I can't even apply to bottom tier grad schools! I barely meet the MINIMUM requirement to APPLY to AZCOM's masters program. I don't know man, just getting into a US med school looks like a huge waste of time that will likely end up in me getting another undergrad because no grad school will take me.


2.8 GPA is relative. If that was your GPA in a competitive State school of a hard undergrad program then it is understandable - you would have to speak with the graduate school admissions people to see where you stand. Remember, international students from India, China etc get into U.S. grad schools with less than stellar GPA. But I guess you would have to write the GREs + TOEFL (depending upon the standard of your undergrad institution) for Graduate school. Apply for Graduate programs + it helps if you have great LORs from professors or where you've worked.

A 2.8 GPA can get you into a Medical program in the States - if not an MD (directly from undergrad, you may get into an MD by doing great in Masters and scoring high on MCAT), if not MD, you can try DO, Optometry, Dentistry (I know TONS of people with less than stellar grades getting into dental school - gonna be expensive to pay though), pharmacy schools, podiatry and the list goes on.

Just don't make the mistake of hastily jumping to a caribbean school AUA or even ROSS just with a gut instinct of becoming a Doctor. In my class only 20-25 people passed step 1 almost 3 years after starting basic sciences. Think about the money and time wasted for those who didn't pass STEP 1 yet or got a low score or will never be able to match with an AUA degree.

JM_MD2017
01-29-2014, 04:18 PM
Thanks for all the replies everyone!

In the US my GPA is so damn low I can't even apply to bottom tier grad schools! I barely meet the MINIMUM requirement to APPLY to AZCOM's masters program. I don't know man, just getting into a US med school looks like a huge waste of time that will likely end up in me getting another undergrad because no grad school will take me.

I see your point. But do what you can to get into ROSS or AUC. AUA has issues as a school and you won't be happy there, no one that goes there is! Like I said before, ROSS and AUC have funding. There program is faster so do your best to stay ahead. Rethink about the Postbac, it doesn't hurt to apply. The caribbean med market should be your last desperate attempt for med school. Futhermore, search all the DO programs. MD or DO its all the same, except that DOs do 400 hours of OMM whcih is awesome. I wish MD schools had the extra hands on time. Best of luck!!!

sumbody1245
01-29-2014, 06:45 PM
2.8 GPA is relative. If that was your GPA in a competitive State school of a hard undergrad program then it is understandable - you would have to speak with the graduate school admissions people to see where you stand. Remember, international students from India, China etc get into U.S. grad schools with less than stellar GPA. But I guess you would have to write the GREs + TOEFL (depending upon the standard of your undergrad institution) for Graduate school. Apply for Graduate programs + it helps if you have great LORs from professors or where you've worked.

A 2.8 GPA can get you into a Medical program in the States - if not an MD (directly from undergrad, you may get into an MD by doing great in Masters and scoring high on MCAT), if not MD, you can try DO, Optometry, Dentistry (I know TONS of people with less than stellar grades getting into dental school - gonna be expensive to pay though), pharmacy schools, podiatry and the list goes on.

Just don't make the mistake of hastily jumping to a caribbean school AUA or even ROSS just with a gut instinct of becoming a Doctor. In my class only 20-25 people passed step 1 almost 3 years after starting basic sciences. Think about the money and time wasted for those who didn't pass STEP 1 yet or got a low score or will never be able to match with an AUA degree.
I'm a bit worried since my preferred specialty is emergency medicine, and it seems relatively straightforward to become an EM doc as a US grad but MUCH harder as a US IMG. Harder than non-US IMG's oddly enough.

But a good STEP score is a good STEP score, did so many ppl do bad on the test because AUA just teaches badly, or the students didn't study/were dumb? If I am doing medicine, I really do feel cornered into AUA vs a high tier Caribbean school, the latter would make me delay school another semester to study the MCAT. Is AUA really so bad that its worth it to waste another semester to get into another international school?

EDIT: and to the guy who said you get nothing after getting 240+ on step after going to AUA, there are several people who get into anesthesiology, neurology, etc every year.

Ubuntu
01-29-2014, 10:32 PM
Just a little perspective from a carib USIMG going through the match this year....as a carib grad, regardless of school, you'll have one hell of an uphill battle...especially anything more competitive than IM. With that, even more of a reach if you want to go to a well respected program. I had one PD at a mid tier uni program for IM tell me point blank that he did not invited any carib students until his AMG applicants cancelled and even at that his cutoff was at least a 250 on step 1 or 2 with zero red flags. From talking to friends applying to EM this year it's an even bigger struggle as a carib grad. I think if you're going to head to an off shore now you need to be in the mindset that you are going to end up in peds/family/psych/IM. Not to say that people will not match into other specialties, however I think everyone should be prepared mentally to go into one of those 4.

Personally I don't recommend anyone to head to the carib if they don't HAVE to. At least try applying DO schools a few cycles. Entertain the idea of PA school. Whatever you need to do. If you will only be happy in life as a MD and you've exhausted all the other options then do whatever you can to get into AUC/Ross/SGU.

To your statement "a good step score is a good step score"....yes, you're right...scores matter but not as much as everything thinks. I know more than one person with double 260's not getting programs that should be easily within reach...at least for an interview.

Raj25
02-02-2014, 01:18 PM
To be completely fair, caribbean schools are FOR PROFIT schools and they accept students with unrealistic expectations of becoming a high end doctor. I remember when I entered AUA in 2011 August being part of the first batch for the "American modeled two semester" model - students just had unrealistic goals of becoming Surgeons, Anaesthesiologists etc and the faculty by no means helped rectify it. They just kept lying and fooling the students until we reached MED 4 and the bar for passing the kaplan comp shelf was raised by our school president and provost to 72.

I think it was completely fair on part of the higher admin of AUA to be realistic set standards that you need a 72 on comp shelf to score atleast 220+ on Step 1. Students who came to class, went to ALL TA sessions, extra help sessions and read textbooks/kaplan videos/did Qbanks scored well on the kaplan comp and passed STEP 1 with flying colors (and that was around 20-30 students). The rest two hundred odd passed by basic sciences without coming to class, partying and cheating by. What was worse is that the faculty and the teaching staff had a hand in the cheating and encouraged it until these students blindly moved onto med 4, clinicals without passing comp shelf and now 3 years after starting basic science, it is sad that they WILL NOT realistically get a residency.

Moral is: BE HONEST with yourself!!! Your friends don't pay your tuition dollars so don't get carried by trying to impress them (that was what many of my classmates did and they failed miserably on the kaplan comp exam). If AUA or any of the caribbean is not for you (i.e., you passed by basic science by cheating and could not pass comp shelf), then you are not destined to be a physician.

NYMD121
02-03-2014, 05:52 PM
To be completely fair, caribbean schools are FOR PROFIT schools and they accept students with unrealistic expectations of becoming a high end doctor. I remember when I entered AUA in 2011 August being part of the first batch for the "American modeled two semester" model - students just had unrealistic goals of becoming Surgeons, Anaesthesiologists etc and the faculty by no means helped rectify it. They just kept lying and fooling the students until we reached MED 4 and the bar for passing the kaplan comp shelf was raised by our school president and provost to 72.

I think it was completely fair on part of the higher admin of AUA to be realistic set standards that you need a 72 on comp shelf to score atleast 220+ on Step 1. Students who came to class, went to ALL TA sessions, extra help sessions and read textbooks/kaplan videos/did Qbanks scored well on the kaplan comp and passed STEP 1 with flying colors (and that was around 20-30 students). The rest two hundred odd passed by basic sciences without coming to class, partying and cheating by. What was worse is that the faculty and the teaching staff had a hand in the cheating and encouraged it until these students blindly moved onto med 4, clinicals without passing comp shelf and now 3 years after starting basic science, it is sad that they WILL NOT realistically get a residency.

Moral is: BE HONEST with yourself!!! Your friends don't pay your tuition dollars so don't get carried by trying to impress them (that was what many of my classmates did and they failed miserably on the kaplan comp exam). If AUA or any of the caribbean is not for you (i.e., you passed by basic science by cheating and could not pass comp shelf), then you are not destined to be a physician.

I do not understand why u feel it is necessary to continually post about how the students who have yet to take comp/step are not going to succeed and obtain a residency? Just because YOU were able to successfully pass a kaplan comp after TWENTY FIVE MONTHS of basic science doesn't mean you are god's gift to AUA. Most US medical students take it BEFORE the summer between their second and third year (i.e. after about 22 months of basic science). So why do u feel as though the time you took and passed the exam is the optimal time to take it? Bottom line is that anyone who passed any of the kaplan comps on the island beginning with the first one given in July WILL be matching for 2016. This is due to our 5th semester preclinical rotation not beginning until the following November of 2013. Therefore, if anyone takes the comp AND then step anytime between the beginning of 5th semester (July 1st, 2013) and probably June of 2014, EVERYONE from that group will be applying for the match of 2016 assuming all goes well during clinicals. Sorry to break it to you, but just because you took your comp and step and got whatever score you got DOES NOT eliminate the rest of the students who are still studying and continue do to do well anytime between now and June.

I would LOVE to be a fly on the wall during your residency interview when you drop the famous line about how you passed kaplan comp on the island. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.

ps_lovenadia
02-19-2014, 12:51 PM
I just got an interview to AUA and was SUPER excited because for me it was an accomplishment. (Even though I know that I'm not accepted yet.)
But now reading all of these threads with AUA being seen as "bad" and having cheating problems is just saddening. :( I've always been excited to go to a caribbean med school and this was one of my top ones. Anyone who is attending or has attended AUA want to give me some insight? :-/
Thanks in advance!

BigOT
02-24-2014, 08:58 AM
Greetings everyone. I attended AUA for Pre-med, and continued into the Med program. I do not regret my decision at all. I miss my island! It is my second home. I had a wonderful time at AUA during basic sciences and in clinical rotations. I traveled the country (NY, Nebraska, Chicago) and saw all kinds of patients and pathologies. I studied hard on island and during clinicals and earned good scores on my USMLEs (215 and 258). Rotation availability is only getting better and our reputation as a solid Caribbean medical school is growing. I applied to Internal Medicine and Family Medicine this residency cycle and received 35 interviews (attended 18) and God willing I hope to match in 3 weeks. Study hard and shine and you will achieve your goals. I was a mediocre student in undergrad and the pre-med program at AUA taught me HOW to study for rigorous science classes and prepared me well for Med 1. The only thing I would caution people about is the private loans. I am not familiar with the current situation, but I know the private bank (Bank of Lake Mills) has high interest rates and no/minimal deferment in the past. Review that closely before taking loans. If you are lucky enough to not need loans and can fund it from another source, AUA is a perfect option. Best of luck to you all.

devildoc8404
02-24-2014, 09:28 AM
It appears that nobody on this thread has mentioned the fact that someone who starts medical school overseas now (anywhere, not just AUA) will be graduating +/- 2018. I hate to flog a VMD-dead-horse here, but comparing the match rates of the past decade with the predicted rates starting between 2016-2020 is an exercise in futility. If the ACGME and AAMC are correct in their published data, and they achieve a 1-to-1 ratio of US medical graduates to US internship positions during that time period, then all bets are off as far as applying for the Match as a foreign medical graduate.

Nobody has a crystal ball for exactly how this will all play out, but it is not hard to do the math and come up with a fair idea. (I do not post this to pee in anybody's cheerios, but it is important information for making these kinds of decisions.)

Raj25
02-25-2014, 10:12 AM
I do not understand why u feel it is necessary to continually post about how the students who have yet to take comp/step are not going to succeed and obtain a residency? Just because YOU were able to successfully pass a kaplan comp after TWENTY FIVE MONTHS of basic science doesn't mean you are god's gift to AUA. Most US medical students take it BEFORE the summer between their second and third year (i.e. after about 22 months of basic science). So why do u feel as though the time you took and passed the exam is the optimal time to take it? Bottom line is that anyone who passed any of the kaplan comps on the island beginning with the first one given in July WILL be matching for 2016. This is due to our 5th semester preclinical rotation not beginning until the following November of 2013. Therefore, if anyone takes the comp AND then step anytime between the beginning of 5th semester (July 1st, 2013) and probably June of 2014, EVERYONE from that group will be applying for the match of 2016 assuming all goes well during clinicals. Sorry to break it to you, but just because you took your comp and step and got whatever score you got DOES NOT eliminate the rest of the students who are still studying and continue do to do well anytime between now and June.

I would LOVE to be a fly on the wall during your residency interview when you drop the famous line about how you passed kaplan comp on the island. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.

And I would love to be a fly on the wall when you actually CAN PASS the SHELF and STEP 1!!! YOU NEED TO SPEAK FOR YOURSELF!!! I LOVE IT WHEN YOU MUSTER THE COURAGE TO ACTUALLY DEFEND THOSE WHO CHEAT AND RUIN THE ENTIRE SCHOOL AS A RESULT!!! UNLESS OF COURSE YOU HAVE A HAND IN THIS CHEATING ALONG WITH THE MSA AND NAGRA'S MANIPAL FACULTY!!! How can you possibly say that every one is doing well when it is not possible EVEN in the BEST US medical school that students who don't even come to class, party every weekend somehow pull incredibly high scores on their MINIs and Shelfs and yet can't even come close to passing the comp shelf and STEP 1!!!

NYMD121
02-25-2014, 01:45 PM
And I would love to be a fly on the wall when you actually CAN PASS the SHELF and STEP 1!!! YOU NEED TO SPEAK FOR YOURSELF!!! I LOVE IT WHEN YOU MUSTER THE COURAGE TO ACTUALLY DEFEND THOSE WHO CHEAT AND RUIN THE ENTIRE SCHOOL AS A RESULT!!! UNLESS OF COURSE YOU HAVE A HAND IN THIS CHEATING ALONG WITH THE MSA AND NAGRA'S MANIPAL FACULTY!!! How can you possibly say that every one is doing well when it is not possible EVEN in the BEST US medical school that students who don't even come to class, party every weekend somehow pull incredibly high scores on their MINIs and Shelfs and yet can't even come close to passing the comp shelf and STEP 1!!!

There is now a system implemented where students have access to their old exams for reviewing purposes which forces the teachers to constantly come up with new questions. So it seems to me that the cheating issue has been resolved at this point. And it appears that the only one who is ruining the reputation of our school are those who keep posting all this nonsense on public forums, i.e. YOU. Please point out anywhere in ANY of my previous posts where I defend ANY single student who cheating. Let me save you some time by telling you that there are NONE. So please next time you attempt to respond to something I have written, try to actually read it first, and then form a coherent thought instead of just going on some sort of pointless, redundant tirade like you always do.

BTW I like how all of your previous posts mention that our classes averages were the lowest averages EVER, but all of a sudden in your most recent post, our classes averages were above and beyond the averages in the history of medical schools.
Stop contradicting yourself and stop posting useless information.

rahulb
02-26-2014, 06:39 PM
i started in sep 2011 and i'm a wildly successful doctor now

pepsatrap
03-01-2014, 09:06 AM
NYMD121 - you seem to be posting the most useless info here. Be in the shoes of the old curriculum students for once who finished step1 and 2 in the middle of their rotations finding out the school lost rotation spots because of what your class has done.

chb
03-02-2014, 04:24 PM
It appears that nobody on this thread has mentioned the fact that someone who starts medical school overseas now (anywhere, not just AUA) will be graduating +/- 2018. I hate to flog a VMD-dead-horse here, but comparing the match rates of the past decade with the predicted rates starting between 2016-2020 is an exercise in futility. If the ACGME and AAMC are correct in their published data, and they achieve a 1-to-1 ratio of US medical graduates to US internship positions during that time period, then all bets are off as far as applying for the Match as a foreign medical graduate.

Nobody has a crystal ball for exactly how this will all play out, but it is not hard to do the math and come up with a fair idea. (I do not post this to pee in anybody's cheerios, but it is important information for making these kinds of decisions.)

I appreciate you psychic prediction. Not only did you pee, but you pooped on my cheerios. Do you have an anal sphincter problem? I heard they can implant an artificial one to help ya with that :)

NYMD121
03-02-2014, 04:58 PM
NYMD121 - you seem to be posting the most useless info here. Be in the shoes of the old curriculum students for once who finished step1 and 2 in the middle of their rotations finding out the school lost rotation spots because of what your class has done.

Iím sorry you donít find my posts usefulóAll I am merely attempting to do is show the entire truth in regards to what has happened and what is currently happening, rather than allowing people to endlessly post these extremely skewed versions of the truth.
If you don't like my posts, then donít waste your time reading them.

Raj25
03-04-2014, 09:38 AM
NYMD121 - I'm sorry if you feel that what I am saying and infact what those who passed step 1 from AUA are the "Skewed version" of the truth. But the fact is someone has to raise their voice against this blatant nonsense at the school. When infact WE (includes YOU NYMD121 and I) are entrusting thousands of OUR tuition dollars to the school only to find out the faculty are hand in glove with the MSA in the cheating scandals costing the school NBME privileges, rotation spots and numerous frustrating arguments rather than meetings with Dr. Nagra in the middle of class room time.

I am just voicing my inbuilt frustration which over the 2 years in basic sci was suppressed by the dictatorship Nagra's Manipal faculty and the MSA imposed over the student body where infact the resources and time lost were not only intolerable but criminal by a huge margin (you can even refer to the Provost's threats to fire the faculty members).

But as YOU said NYMD121 - my frustration is not over the school which HAS made strides in rectifying the mistakes but over the guilty members responsible for destroying the lives of many students at AUA.







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