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iskander1
04-11-2013, 05:28 PM
Iv spent two years in antigua (through pre med/med). thinking of leaving AUA and going back home. Do ontario/toronto schools accept creditation from AUA school? Please let me know. Thanks.

i was hoping to not do the same courses that i did in antigua and try to transfer.

iskander1
04-12-2013, 11:56 AM
what im trying to say is AUA/AICASA accredited in any ontario/toronto schools?

JustTryingToHelp
04-29-2013, 11:15 PM
If you are able to find a school that accepts transfer students then yes, they should accept AUA credits since AUA is a pretty well accredited school. The hardest part is probably going to be finding a school that accepts transfer students. I am not aware of any Canadian school that accepts transfers. Even in the U.S., there are only a handful of schools that accept transfer students and those rarely do.

University of Toronto does not accept transfers.
According to the University of Toronto MD Admissions FAQ
3) Does the University of Toronto accept transfer students (students who are currently undergraduate medical students in other medical schools or who have completed one or more years of undergraduate medicine in another medical school) ?

No. Transfers are not allowed.

iskander1
04-30-2013, 06:43 AM
If you are able to find a school that accepts transfer students then yes, they should accept AUA credits since AUA is a pretty well accredited school. The hardest part is probably going to be finding a school that accepts transfer students. I am not aware of any Canadian school that accepts transfers. Even in the U.S., there are only a handful of schools that accept transfer students and those rarely do.

University of Toronto does not accept transfers.
According to the University of Toronto MD Admissions FAQ
3) Does the University of Toronto accept transfer students (students who are currently undergraduate medical students in other medical schools or who have completed one or more years of undergraduate medicine in another medical school) ?

No. Transfers are not allowed.

Thanks for your reply i found it very helpful. is their anyway you can check if york, western and ryerson are the same? the thing is what do i tell them to show that AUA is accredited? when i went to york they said AUA wasnt accredited. the problem for me seemed was accreditatioin not transfer. im trying to transfer into the pre med programs not the med programs. so what do i show them to convince them that aua is accredited? if you can help me i would greatly appreciate it.

devildoc8404
04-30-2013, 07:45 AM
Remember that, by all accounts, medical school admission in Canada is absolutely cutthroat competitive. No amount of Carib premedical education is going to be viewed as equivalent to that gained at a Canadian university, whether said Carib school happens to be "accredited" or not. You will need to essentially walk on water in order to get into a Canadian medical school to begin with, and having Carib pre-med credit is like putting on concrete shoes. Remember that you will be competing for admission with people who have done their entire premedical curriculum at Canadian schools... what exactly will cause the admissions committees to look at your Carib education as equally rigorous?

Note that I am not saying that your classes in the Carib were not good -- I have no way of knowing whether they were, or not. I am simply pointing out that the perception of said Carib classes within the highly-competitive environment of Canadian medical school admissions will be unlikely to stand you in good stead.

If I were you, and I were trying to get into a Canadian medical school, I would start from square one with a completely Canadian transcript... and use the stuff I had learned in the Carib to help me get outstanding grades in the Canadian university classes.

I know that is not what you want to hear, but it is probably the best and safest route if you want to get into a Canadian medical school.

iskander1
04-30-2013, 08:28 AM
Thanks for your input but my plan wasnt to go directly into a canadian medical school. like you said its impossible. i was hoping to just not do the credits i already did in the caribeans as in transfer credits. if this is possible that will be great.

devildoc8404
04-30-2013, 09:31 AM
Got it. Completely different animal. Good luck to you.

JustTryingToHelp
04-30-2013, 11:46 PM
Thanks for your reply i found it very helpful. is their anyway you can check if york, western and ryerson are the same? the thing is what do i tell them to show that AUA is accredited? when i went to york they said AUA wasnt accredited. the problem for me seemed was accreditatioin not transfer. im trying to transfer into the pre med programs not the med programs. so what do i show them to convince them that aua is accredited? if you can help me i would greatly appreciate it.

I didn't know York and Ryerson had medical schools. The list of Ontario medical schools on the OUAC website only show McMaster, Northern Ontario, University of Ottawa, Queen's, University of Toronto and Western University.

For University of Western Ontario according to their FAQ
Does Schulich Medicine accept transfer students?
Transfer consideration is restricted to Canadian citizens or Permanent Residents of Canada currently enrolled in a Canadian medical school and only when space is available in our program

For the University of Ottawa in the admissions section of their website
Transfers into the University of Ottawa program:
The applicant must:
1.be registered full-time as an undergraduate medical student in a Canadian university offering an accredited and comparable 4-year medical program;

I think it's the same for all Canadian Universities that accept transfers. You must be from another Canadian University.

If you are accepted into the pre-med program, from what I understand, you start from scratch. They won't accept any credits from any other university. So I don't think the issue is really how good AUA's accreditation is. I think the administrators are saying that they just don't really recognize any credits that are not from a Canadian University.

AUA is accredited in the FAIMER IMED and AVICENNA directory. I can't post links, but if you do a search in both of their databases, you can find AUA.

iskander1
05-01-2013, 06:58 AM
I didn't know York and Ryerson had medical schools. The list of Ontario medical schools on the OUAC website only show McMaster, Northern Ontario, University of Ottawa, Queen's, University of Toronto and Western University.

For University of Western Ontario according to their FAQ
Does Schulich Medicine accept transfer students?
Transfer consideration is restricted to Canadian citizens or Permanent Residents of Canada currently enrolled in a Canadian medical school and only when space is available in our program

For the University of Ottawa in the admissions section of their website
Transfers into the University of Ottawa program:
The applicant must:
1.be registered full-time as an undergraduate medical student in a Canadian university offering an accredited and comparable 4-year medical program;

I think it's the same for all Canadian Universities that accept transfers. You must be from another Canadian University.

If you are accepted into the pre-med program, from what I understand, you start from scratch. They won't accept any credits from any other university. So I don't think the issue is really how good AUA's accreditation is. I think the administrators are saying that they just don't really recognize any credits that are not from a Canadian University.

AUA is accredited in the FAIMER IMED and AVICENNA directory. I can't post links, but if you do a search in both of their databases, you can find AUA.

thanks again for your reply. but i think your confusing something. you posted transfer into med schools. thats not what i wanna do, i wanna be able to transfer in their pre med program. since i already did some of the courses they offer i wont to kind of cross it off. also for york and ryerson i was going to do a biomedical program and when i am done just transfer. but im trying to transfer into a pre med program (like biomedical science) not directly into med school which you posted. thanks

JustTryingToHelp
05-04-2013, 07:22 PM
Oh. Like just getting the credit for courses since they are similar.

I cannot find much on York's website about course equivalents. It's very vague. But if the administration says they can't accept the credits, then they probably just don't. It's hard for university's to accept credits done in other countries because it's difficult for them to determine what the curriculum is like. If they are only concerned about accreditation, then FAIMER/IMED stuff is the best you can give them.

Ryerson's website under Current Students > Transfer Credits > Undergraduate > Eligible Credits says that credits are done on a case by case basis. You just apply to the school and the faculty figures it out.
"When applying for Transfer Credits you do not have to specify equivalent Ryerson courses.

Compare your previous courses to your Ryerson program's curriculum to identify obvious similarities to determine relevant applications. If you are uncertain your previous courses apply, we recommend you apply so they can be evaluated.

Transfer Credit equivalencies are determined by Ryerson faculty who are specialists in their field."

iskander1
05-04-2013, 07:32 PM
ok so i guess they will ultimately decide? and do you think this will help my case ACICS Accreditation | AICASA (http://www.aicasa.org/acics-accreditation) ?

JustTryingToHelp
05-04-2013, 07:42 PM
Yeah, they will ultimately decide.

Yes, I think that will help. It sounds really good. Hopefully they accept it.

don1
05-05-2013, 05:41 AM
Why are you not calling schools you are interested in transferring to and asking them directly??? That seems like a good next step rather than asking people you don't know what they think. It is unusual to transfer from a medical school to undergrad, so I doubt many people have done that to draw of their experience.


Iv spent two years in antigua (through pre med/med). thinking of leaving AUA and going back home. Do ontario/toronto schools accept creditation from AUA school? Please let me know. Thanks.

i was hoping to not do the same courses that i did in antigua and try to transfer.

iskander1
05-06-2013, 07:25 AM
i asked some of the schools but most of the time they tell you, you have to come in and discuss it or we discuss it after you have been accepted. they never give a straight answer so to speak.







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