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lbkali2710
08-30-2012, 04:55 PM
hello all! I am starting the mcdaniel pre med this fall, and because this is premed I assume I can change my mind before enrolling into quite a tolling course such as medicine...
to be frank i have heard a lot of horror stories about hungary, i know it is a well recognized degree, and i come from israel (but i am bulgarian by nationality so i am an EU national if that helps in any way) so alot of israeli's in hungary and its quite a popular option here.
so here come the horror stories, i did my research on this site and on a few other sites online (both isrealis and english ones) and saw a few comments like
"people pay their way to the degree"(meaning in a corrupt way)
"oral exams are too difficult" my question is , i dont mind a difficult few years but i am not capable of studying 24 hours a day so would that mean i could never pass these exams?
but i know its the internet and i shouldnt believe everything i read
but then what really bugged me is I ran into a few kids randomly on the street that study in hungary, and one of them teary eyed said "dont do this to yourself, just run away and never look back"
and i was shocked and he continued in saying "i know of guys that sleep with assistant professors to get the exam question"
well what i know about this kid is that apparently he cant afford another year in hungary so hes moving somewhere else, hes not sure yet.
but really if i only heard a few commets like these i wouldnt mind, but this is something im hearing almost from everybody who knows im going to hungary.
and besides is it really true that if you fail one exam they wont let you continue to the next semester? and lets say i failed one exam do i have a chance of re-sitting the exam again before having to repeat the semester (year?) and also are there A LOT of repeaters?
and really i am sorry if i am making some people angry but really i have to think these stuff through before making my father break his back paying 17,000 dollars a year (that is if they dont increase the tuition this year)
so please, be honest, i dont come from a rich family and im realy taking every risk here in studying in hungary so i would like someone to clear all this out for me!

the_red_devil
08-30-2012, 05:39 PM
hello all! I am starting the mcdaniel pre med this fall, and because this is premed I assume I can change my mind before enrolling into quite a tolling course such as medicine...
to be frank i have heard a lot of horror stories about hungary, i know it is a well recognized degree, and i come from israel (but i am bulgarian by nationality so i am an EU national if that helps in any way) so alot of israeli's in hungary and its quite a popular option here.
so here come the horror stories, i did my research on this site and on a few other sites online (both isrealis and english ones) and saw a few comments like
"people pay their way to the degree"(meaning in a corrupt way)
"oral exams are too difficult" my question is , i dont mind a difficult few years but i am not capable of studying 24 hours a day so would that mean i could never pass these exams?
but i know its the internet and i shouldnt believe everything i read
but then what really bugged me is I ran into a few kids randomly on the street that study in hungary, and one of them teary eyed said "dont do this to yourself, just run away and never look back"
and i was shocked and he continued in saying "i know of guys that sleep with assistant professors to get the exam question"
well what i know about this kid is that apparently he cant afford another year in hungary so hes moving somewhere else, hes not sure yet.
but really if i only heard a few commets like these i wouldnt mind, but this is something im hearing almost from everybody who knows im going to hungary.
and besides is it really true that if you fail one exam they wont let you continue to the next semester? and lets say i failed one exam do i have a chance of re-sitting the exam again before having to repeat the semester (year?) and also are there A LOT of repeaters?
and really i am sorry if i am making some people angry but really i have to think these stuff through before making my father break his back paying 17,000 dollars a year (that is if they dont increase the tuition this year)
so please, be honest, i dont come from a rich family and im realy taking every risk here in studying in hungary so i would like someone to clear all this out for me!

Studying medicine takes a lot of effort and hard work. But is it impossible? Absolutely not. Everything's manageable if you know how to prioritise your time. Use your time and resources wisely and you'll be fine. The oral exams are difficult and sometimes they aren't really a fair way to judge your knowledge but then again these exams may depend more on the teacher and the topic that you get rather than how much you actually know.
There are plenty of people who struggle really hard here without getting good results and sometimes they get bitter and blame everything and everyone but themselves. On the other hand you have plenty of people who are doing quite well.
You have 3 chances to clear an exam in one semester (excluding the self control exams which, by the way, if you pass you won't have to worry too much about the finals). Also, I think you can go to the next semester if you have only one subject left. You get 3 more chances to clear it and if you still can't do it then you must seriously consider whether you have made the right choice and if you're really up for it.
The attrition rate is very high in Hungary. Plenty of people fail/repeat years. But there are several reasons for this unfortunate situation. But as I said, if you're willing to work hard and you know that medicine is what you want to do, you'll not have many problems. Just put your head down from day one get working and remember that you're here to study first and foremost and then maybe have some fun if you manage to salvage some free time.
17,000 USD may not be enough if you're coming to Debrecen or Budapest. The fees in these universities are in excess of 15,000 USD and you'll need at least 5000 USD as living expenses per year. That too if you're willing to spend like a miser and limit your expenses.
Good luck with your endeavours!

fbuni
08-30-2012, 08:51 PM
"i know of guys that sleep with assistant professors to get the exam question"
hmm you are given a topic list that is made up of the exam questions!!! so to be honest you really dont need to sleep with the professor's assistant. the one you need to be sleeping with is the professor;)
- Just because you payed $17000 does not mean you are owed a MD ...

lbkali2710
08-31-2012, 03:06 AM
- Just because you payed $17000 does not mean you are owed a MD ...[/QUOTE]
For that money i want a fair shot at it!!



And thanks the_red_devil for clearing some aspects

But nobody has cleared up the , let's call it, corruption theory.

the_red_devil
08-31-2012, 03:31 AM
I'm yet to see any proof of that theory to be honest. Maybe it was prevalent a few years ago but I don't see any signs of corruption nowadays. There are some things which may seem really unfair to you but I'm sure I haven't seen anyone bribing anyone yet.

fbuni
08-31-2012, 10:39 AM
-I personally have never met a person who failed year due to what we now call the corruption theory...
- for what you are paying>>> I think you have a fair chance to end up with an MD. That being said, many of the students who are here do not deserve to be in a MD program. The admission standards in hungary are LOW! However, that does not mean they are handing out MDs because the bottleneck is set during 2nd and 3rd year.
- As mentioned in my earlier post, most claims of the corruption theory are dismissed ie (bribery, student/teacher sexual affairs and all that good stuff)>>> personally I have never seen it. However, cheating does go on, but it technically should become less of a problem as you go on mainly because weaker students are left behind!
- The "topic examination style" is a bit unfair just because its not standardized, but you are going to have to deal with that
-Finally, teaching style>>> you will have to learn everything on your own, do not expect to be spoon feed! that will simply NOT happen ie "selfstudy" is the KEY to the hungarian system!

the_red_devil
08-31-2012, 11:18 AM
- The admission standards in hungary are LOW!

The Debrecen university website says otherwise. Apparently, they've changed the admission procedures from this year onwards and made the entrance more strict and competitive. It's still relatively easy though.







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