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reality_talk
06-10-2012, 09:55 AM
zimdoctor


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Smu should close!!



People asking for truth? DO NOT COME HERE, us left are screwed! Used to be 50 students now only a dozen left. Smart ones got out! 2 MD4 classes have finished in last 1 1/2 yrs, only ONE passed USMLE. SMU do not have clinicals for him. Told him to find his own! We ask admin at SMU where there clinicals are, never any answers. Nobody can get transcripts! Nobody has transcrits! Nobody can get there legal docs. The admin always threaten us. They tell us if we leave they will be sure we never take USMLE. There all crooks. SMU did not give us grades from Dec. semester! We forced to come back in January to get them and were forced to sign paper saying we would not leave before we get our grades! Some of us are getting help to get out. Original lady PS screwed so many she not allowed back on island. So her husband (Dr. S) and other owner JB continue to screw us. Dr. S is not even a dr. We pray everyday that minister of education here closes them. They are a disgrace. You WILL lose your money if you come here and you WILL NOT ever get your doctor degree! All website is a lie. Most people on site fired long time ago. 6th dean was fired 3 weeks ago. He forbidden to talk to us for 2 years! Most teachers on site never been here. You have been WARNED!

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| I totally agree with jimdoctor and reasons are following..
1) S is not medical doctor as claimed by Jeff. S has done Phd from UIUC and hence is using Dr to fool the aspirants and the current students of SMU.
2) Dr ****** as shown one of the faculty has no teaching experience and is real sister of S.
3) Dr Sonia ***** is BDS not DDS as mentioned on the site and for Jeff's information BDS is not at all equivalent to DDS.
4) Dr ****** ******* is real brother in law of S.

5) There are many faculty members with MBBS degree only how can they teach to students who are preparing for USMLE ???
WHAT A JOKE

6) PS AND S have been involved in many hacking cases and they are on bail in an asian country ( any day they will be behind bars)

7) The only student who has applied for licence in USA is the son of PS and S and his name also starts with P.

i KNOW ALL THIS AS HE WAS WITH US IN POLAND AND ALWAYS BOASTING ABOUT ALL THIS.

iF ANY OF THE INFORMATION IS WRONG THEN i AM READY TO FACE ANY LEGAL ACTION ANYWHARE IN THE WORLD.
jEFF !! You are newly associated with them so please do your research about the management of SMU and then support the cause .

reality_talk
06-11-2012, 12:35 AM
zimdoctor

Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: multiple accounts Posts: 1 Downloads:0 Uploads:0 Infractions: 0/1 (10)


Smu should close!!



People asking for truth? DO NOT COME HERE, us left are screwed! Used to be 50 students now only a dozen left. Smart ones got out! 2 MD4 classes have finished in last 1 1/2 yrs, only ONE passed USMLE. SMU do not have clinicals for him. Told him to find his own! We ask admin at SMU where there clinicals are, never any answers. Nobody can get transcripts! Nobody has transcrits! Nobody can get there legal docs. The admin always threaten us. They tell us if we leave they will be sure we never take USMLE. There all crooks. SMU did not give us grades from Dec. semester! We forced to come back in January to get them and were forced to sign paper saying we would not leave before we get our grades! Some of us are getting help to get out. Original lady PS screwed so many she not allowed back on island. So her husband (Dr. S) and other owner JB continue to screw us. Dr. S is not even a dr. We pray everyday that minister of education here closes them. They are a disgrace. You WILL lose your money if you come here and you WILL NOT ever get your doctor degree! All website is a lie. Most people on site fired long time ago. 6th dean was fired 3 weeks ago. He forbidden to talk to us for 2 years! Most teachers on site never been here. You have been WARNED!

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| I totally agree with jimdoctor and reasons are following..
1) S is not medical doctor as claimed by Jeff. S has done Phd from UIUC and hence is using Dr to fool the aspirants and the current students of SMU.
2) Dr ****** as shown one of the faculty has no teaching experience and is real sister of S.
3) Dr Sonia ***** is BDS not DDS as mentioned on the site and for Jeff's information BDS is not at all equivalent to DDS.
4) Dr ****** ******* is real brother in law of S.

5) There are many faculty members with MBBS degree only how can they teach to students who are preparing for USMLE ???
WHAT A JOKE

6) PS AND S have been involved in many hacking cases and they are on bail in an asian country ( any day they will be behind bars)

7) The only student who has applied for licence in USA is the son of PS and S and his name also starts with P.

i KNOW ALL THIS AS HE WAS WITH US IN POLAND AND ALWAYS BOASTING ABOUT ALL THIS.

iF ANY OF THE INFORMATION IS WRONG THEN i AM READY TO FACE ANY LEGAL ACTION ANYWHARE IN THE WORLD.
jEFF !! You are newly associated with them so please do your research about the management of SMU and then support the cause .

reality_talk
06-11-2012, 12:37 AM
zimdoctor


Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: multiple accounts Posts: 1 Downloads:0 Uploads:0 Infractions: 0/1 (10)


Smu should close!!



People asking for truth? DO NOT COME HERE, us left are screwed! Used to be 50 students now only a dozen left. Smart ones got out! 2 MD4 classes have finished in last 1 1/2 yrs, only ONE passed USMLE. SMU do not have clinicals for him. Told him to find his own! We ask admin at SMU where there clinicals are, never any answers. Nobody can get transcripts! Nobody has transcrits! Nobody can get there legal docs. The admin always threaten us. They tell us if we leave they will be sure we never take USMLE. There all crooks. SMU did not give us grades from Dec. semester! We forced to come back in January to get them and were forced to sign paper saying we would not leave before we get our grades! Some of us are getting help to get out. Original lady PS screwed so many she not allowed back on island. So her husband (Dr. S) and other owner JB continue to screw us. Dr. S is not even a dr. We pray everyday that minister of education here closes them. They are a disgrace. You WILL lose your money if you come here and you WILL NOT ever get your doctor degree! All website is a lie. Most people on site fired long time ago. 6th dean was fired 3 weeks ago. He forbidden to talk to us for 2 years! Most teachers on site never been here. You have been WARNED!

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| I totally agree with jimdoctor and reasons are following..
1) S is not medical doctor as claimed by Jeff. S has done Phd from UIUC and hence is using Dr to fool the aspirants and the current students of SMU.
2) Dr ****** as shown one of the faculty has no teaching experience and is real sister of S.
3) Dr Sonia ***** is BDS not DDS as mentioned on the site and for Jeff's information BDS is not at all equivalent to DDS.
4) Dr ****** ******* is real brother in law of S.

5) There are many faculty members with MBBS degree only how can they teach to students who are preparing for USMLE ???
WHAT A JOKE

6) PS AND S have been involved in many hacking cases and they are on bail in an asian country ( any day they will be behind bars)

7) The only student who has applied for licence in USA is the son of PS and S and his name also starts with P.

i KNOW ALL THIS AS HE WAS WITH US IN POLAND AND ALWAYS BOASTING ABOUT ALL THIS.

iF ANY OF THE INFORMATION IS WRONG THEN i AM READY TO FACE ANY LEGAL ACTION ANYWHARE IN THE WORLD.
jEFF !! You are newly associated with them so please do your research about the management of SMU and then support the cause .

reality_talk
06-11-2012, 12:38 AM
zimdoctor


Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: multiple accounts Posts: 1 Downloads:0 Uploads:0 Infractions: 0/1 (10)


Smu should close!!



People asking for truth? DO NOT COME HERE, us left are screwed! Used to be 50 students now only a dozen left. Smart ones got out! 2 MD4 classes have finished in last 1 1/2 yrs, only ONE passed USMLE. SMU do not have clinicals for him. Told him to find his own! We ask admin at SMU where there clinicals are, never any answers. Nobody can get transcripts! Nobody has transcrits! Nobody can get there legal docs. The admin always threaten us. They tell us if we leave they will be sure we never take USMLE. There all crooks. SMU did not give us grades from Dec. semester! We forced to come back in January to get them and were forced to sign paper saying we would not leave before we get our grades! Some of us are getting help to get out. Original lady PS screwed so many she not allowed back on island. So her husband (Dr. S) and other owner JB continue to screw us. Dr. S is not even a dr. We pray everyday that minister of education here closes them. They are a disgrace. You WILL lose your money if you come here and you WILL NOT ever get your doctor degree! All website is a lie. Most people on site fired long time ago. 6th dean was fired 3 weeks ago. He forbidden to talk to us for 2 years! Most teachers on site never been here. You have been WARNED!

Share


| I totally agree with jimdoctor and reasons are following..
1) S is not medical doctor as claimed by Jeff. S has done Phd from UIUC and hence is using Dr to fool the aspirants and the current students of SMU.
2) Dr ****** as shown one of the faculty has no teaching experience and is real sister of S.
3) Dr Sonia ***** is BDS not DDS as mentioned on the site and for Jeff's information BDS is not at all equivalent to DDS.
4) Dr ****** ******* is real brother in law of S.

5) There are many faculty members with MBBS degree only how can they teach to students who are preparing for USMLE ???
WHAT A JOKE

6) PS AND S have been involved in many hacking cases and they are on bail in an asian country ( any day they will be behind bars)

7) The only student who has applied for licence in USA is the son of PS and S and his name also starts with P.

i KNOW ALL THIS AS HE WAS WITH US IN POLAND AND ALWAYS BOASTING ABOUT ALL THIS.

iF ANY OF THE INFORMATION IS WRONG THEN i AM READY TO FACE ANY LEGAL ACTION ANYWHARE IN THE WORLD.
jEFF !! You are newly associated with them so please do your research about the management of SMU and then support the cause .

reality_talk
06-11-2012, 12:40 AM
zimdoctor


Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: multiple accounts Posts: 1 Downloads:0 Uploads:0 Infractions: 0/1 (10)


Smu should close!!



People asking for truth? DO NOT COME HERE, us left are screwed! Used to be 50 students now only a dozen left. Smart ones got out! 2 MD4 classes have finished in last 1 1/2 yrs, only ONE passed USMLE. SMU do not have clinicals for him. Told him to find his own! We ask admin at SMU where there clinicals are, never any answers. Nobody can get transcripts! Nobody has transcrits! Nobody can get there legal docs. The admin always threaten us. They tell us if we leave they will be sure we never take USMLE. There all crooks. SMU did not give us grades from Dec. semester! We forced to come back in January to get them and were forced to sign paper saying we would not leave before we get our grades! Some of us are getting help to get out. Original lady PS screwed so many she not allowed back on island. So her husband (Dr. S) and other owner JB continue to screw us. Dr. S is not even a dr. We pray everyday that minister of education here closes them. They are a disgrace. You WILL lose your money if you come here and you WILL NOT ever get your doctor degree! All website is a lie. Most people on site fired long time ago. 6th dean was fired 3 weeks ago. He forbidden to talk to us for 2 years! Most teachers on site never been here. You have been WARNED!

Share


| I totally agree with jimdoctor and reasons are following..
1) S is not medical doctor as claimed by Jeff. S has done Phd from UIUC and hence is using Dr to fool the aspirants and the current students of SMU.
2) Dr ****** as shown one of the faculty has no teaching experience and is real sister of S.
3) Dr Sonia ***** is BDS not DDS as mentioned on the site and for Jeff's information BDS is not at all equivalent to DDS.
4) Dr ****** ******* is real brother in law of S.

5) There are many faculty members with MBBS degree only how can they teach to students who are preparing for USMLE ???
WHAT A JOKE

6) PS AND S have been involved in many hacking cases and they are on bail in an asian country ( any day they will be behind bars)

7) The only student who has applied for licence in USA is the son of PS and S and his name also starts with P.

i KNOW ALL THIS AS HE WAS WITH US IN POLAND AND ALWAYS BOASTING ABOUT ALL THIS.

iF ANY OF THE INFORMATION IS WRONG THEN i AM READY TO FACE ANY LEGAL ACTION ANYWHARE IN THE WORLD.
jEFF !! You are newly associated with them so please do your research about the management of SMU and then support the cause .

reality_talk
06-11-2012, 12:44 AM
zimdoctor


Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: multiple accounts Posts: 1 Downloads:0 Uploads:0 Infractions: 0/1 (10)


Smu should close!!



People asking for truth? DO NOT COME HERE, us left are screwed! Used to be 50 students now only a dozen left. Smart ones got out! 2 MD4 classes have finished in last 1 1/2 yrs, only ONE passed USMLE. SMU do not have clinicals for him. Told him to find his own! We ask admin at SMU where there clinicals are, never any answers. Nobody can get transcripts! Nobody has transcrits! Nobody can get there legal docs. The admin always threaten us. They tell us if we leave they will be sure we never take USMLE. There all crooks. SMU did not give us grades from Dec. semester! We forced to come back in January to get them and were forced to sign paper saying we would not leave before we get our grades! Some of us are getting help to get out. Original lady PS screwed so many she not allowed back on island. So her husband (Dr. S) and other owner JB continue to screw us. Dr. S is not even a dr. We pray everyday that minister of education here closes them. They are a disgrace. You WILL lose your money if you come here and you WILL NOT ever get your doctor degree! All website is a lie. Most people on site fired long time ago. 6th dean was fired 3 weeks ago. He forbidden to talk to us for 2 years! Most teachers on site never been here. You have been WARNED!

Share


| I totally agree with jimdoctor and reasons are following..
1) S is not medical doctor as claimed by Jeff. S has done Phd from UIUC and hence is using Dr to fool the aspirants and the current students of SMU.
2) Dr ****** as shown one of the faculty has no teaching experience and is real sister of S.
3) Dr Sonia ***** is BDS not DDS as mentioned on the site and for Jeff's information BDS is not at all equivalent to DDS.
4) Dr ****** ******* is real brother in law of S.

5) There are many faculty members with MBBS degree only how can they teach to students who are preparing for USMLE ???
WHAT A JOKE

6) PS AND S have been involved in many hacking cases and they are on bail in an asian country ( any day they will be behind bars)

7) The only student who has applied for licence in USA is the son of PS and S and his name also starts with P.

i KNOW ALL THIS AS HE WAS WITH US IN POLAND AND ALWAYS BOASTING ABOUT ALL THIS.

iF ANY OF THE INFORMATION IS WRONG THEN i AM READY TO FACE ANY LEGAL ACTION ANYWHARE IN THE WORLD.
jEFF !! You are newly associated with them so please do your research about the management of SMU and then support the cause .

reality_talk
06-11-2012, 12:47 AM
zimdoctor


Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: multiple accounts Posts: 1 Downloads:0 Uploads:0 Infractions: 0/1 (10)


Smu should close!!



People asking for truth? DO NOT COME HERE, us left are screwed! Used to be 50 students now only a dozen left. Smart ones got out! 2 MD4 classes have finished in last 1 1/2 yrs, only ONE passed USMLE. SMU do not have clinicals for him. Told him to find his own! We ask admin at SMU where there clinicals are, never any answers. Nobody can get transcripts! Nobody has transcrits! Nobody can get there legal docs. The admin always threaten us. They tell us if we leave they will be sure we never take USMLE. There all crooks. SMU did not give us grades from Dec. semester! We forced to come back in January to get them and were forced to sign paper saying we would not leave before we get our grades! Some of us are getting help to get out. Original lady PS screwed so many she not allowed back on island. So her husband (Dr. S) and other owner JB continue to screw us. Dr. S is not even a dr. We pray everyday that minister of education here closes them. They are a disgrace. You WILL lose your money if you come here and you WILL NOT ever get your doctor degree! All website is a lie. Most people on site fired long time ago. 6th dean was fired 3 weeks ago. He forbidden to talk to us for 2 years! Most teachers on site never been here. You have been WARNED!

Share


| I totally agree with jimdoctor and reasons are following..
1) S is not medical doctor as claimed by Jeff. S has done Phd from UIUC and hence is using Dr to fool the aspirants and the current students of SMU.
2) Dr ****** as shown one of the faculty has no teaching experience and is real sister of S.
3) Dr Sonia ***** is BDS not DDS as mentioned on the site and for Jeff's information BDS is not at all equivalent to DDS.
4) Dr ****** ******* is real brother in law of S.

5) There are many faculty members with MBBS degree only how can they teach to students who are preparing for USMLE ???
WHAT A JOKE

6) PS AND S have been involved in many hacking cases and they are on bail in an asian country ( any day they will be behind bars)

7) The only student who has applied for licence in USA is the son of PS and S and his name also starts with P.

i KNOW ALL THIS AS HE WAS WITH US IN POLAND AND ALWAYS BOASTING ABOUT ALL THIS.

iF ANY OF THE INFORMATION IS WRONG THEN i AM READY TO FACE ANY LEGAL ACTION ANYWHARE IN THE WORLD.
jEFF !! You are newly associated with them so please do your research about the management of SMU and then support the cause .

reality_talk
06-11-2012, 12:48 AM
zimdoctor


Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: multiple accounts Posts: 1 Downloads:0 Uploads:0 Infractions: 0/1 (10)


Smu should close!!



People asking for truth? DO NOT COME HERE, us left are screwed! Used to be 50 students now only a dozen left. Smart ones got out! 2 MD4 classes have finished in last 1 1/2 yrs, only ONE passed USMLE. SMU do not have clinicals for him. Told him to find his own! We ask admin at SMU where there clinicals are, never any answers. Nobody can get transcripts! Nobody has transcrits! Nobody can get there legal docs. The admin always threaten us. They tell us if we leave they will be sure we never take USMLE. There all crooks. SMU did not give us grades from Dec. semester! We forced to come back in January to get them and were forced to sign paper saying we would not leave before we get our grades! Some of us are getting help to get out. Original lady PS screwed so many she not allowed back on island. So her husband (Dr. S) and other owner JB continue to screw us. Dr. S is not even a dr. We pray everyday that minister of education here closes them. They are a disgrace. You WILL lose your money if you come here and you WILL NOT ever get your doctor degree! All website is a lie. Most people on site fired long time ago. 6th dean was fired 3 weeks ago. He forbidden to talk to us for 2 years! Most teachers on site never been here. You have been WARNED!

Share


| I totally agree with jimdoctor and reasons are following..
1) S is not medical doctor as claimed by Jeff. S has done Phd from UIUC and hence is using Dr to fool the aspirants and the current students of SMU.
2) Dr ****** as shown one of the faculty has no teaching experience and is real sister of S.
3) Dr Sonia ***** is BDS not DDS as mentioned on the site and for Jeff's information BDS is not at all equivalent to DDS.
4) Dr ****** ******* is real brother in law of S.

5) There are many faculty members with MBBS degree only how can they teach to students who are preparing for USMLE ???
WHAT A JOKE

6) PS AND S have been involved in many hacking cases and they are on bail in an asian country ( any day they will be behind bars)

7) The only student who has applied for licence in USA is the son of PS and S and his name also starts with P.

i KNOW ALL THIS AS HE WAS WITH US IN POLAND AND ALWAYS BOASTING ABOUT ALL THIS.

iF ANY OF THE INFORMATION IS WRONG THEN i AM READY TO FACE ANY LEGAL ACTION ANYWHARE IN THE WORLD.
jEFF !! You are newly associated with them so please do your research about the management of SMU and then support the cause .

reality_talk
06-11-2012, 12:49 AM
zimdoctor


Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: multiple accounts Posts: 1 Downloads:0 Uploads:0 Infractions: 0/1 (10)


Smu should close!!



People asking for truth? DO NOT COME HERE, us left are screwed! Used to be 50 students now only a dozen left. Smart ones got out! 2 MD4 classes have finished in last 1 1/2 yrs, only ONE passed USMLE. SMU do not have clinicals for him. Told him to find his own! We ask admin at SMU where there clinicals are, never any answers. Nobody can get transcripts! Nobody has transcrits! Nobody can get there legal docs. The admin always threaten us. They tell us if we leave they will be sure we never take USMLE. There all crooks. SMU did not give us grades from Dec. semester! We forced to come back in January to get them and were forced to sign paper saying we would not leave before we get our grades! Some of us are getting help to get out. Original lady PS screwed so many she not allowed back on island. So her husband (Dr. S) and other owner JB continue to screw us. Dr. S is not even a dr. We pray everyday that minister of education here closes them. They are a disgrace. You WILL lose your money if you come here and you WILL NOT ever get your doctor degree! All website is a lie. Most people on site fired long time ago. 6th dean was fired 3 weeks ago. He forbidden to talk to us for 2 years! Most teachers on site never been here. You have been WARNED!

Share


| I totally agree with jimdoctor and reasons are following..
1) S is not medical doctor as claimed by Jeff. S has done Phd from UIUC and hence is using Dr to fool the aspirants and the current students of SMU.
2) Dr ****** as shown one of the faculty has no teaching experience and is real sister of S.
3) Dr Sonia ***** is BDS not DDS as mentioned on the site and for Jeff's information BDS is not at all equivalent to DDS.
4) Dr ****** ******* is real brother in law of S.

5) There are many faculty members with MBBS degree only how can they teach to students who are preparing for USMLE ???
WHAT A JOKE

6) PS AND S have been involved in many hacking cases and they are on bail in an asian country ( any day they will be behind bars)

7) The only student who has applied for licence in USA is the son of PS and S and his name also starts with P.

i KNOW ALL THIS AS HE WAS WITH US IN POLAND AND ALWAYS BOASTING ABOUT ALL THIS.

iF ANY OF THE INFORMATION IS WRONG THEN i AM READY TO FACE ANY LEGAL ACTION ANYWHARE IN THE WORLD.
jEFF !! You are newly associated with them so please do your research about the management of SMU and then support the cause .

reality_talk
06-11-2012, 12:51 AM
zimdoctor


Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: multiple accounts Posts: 1 Downloads:0 Uploads:0 Infractions: 0/1 (10)


Smu should close!!



People asking for truth? DO NOT COME HERE, us left are screwed! Used to be 50 students now only a dozen left. Smart ones got out! 2 MD4 classes have finished in last 1 1/2 yrs, only ONE passed USMLE. SMU do not have clinicals for him. Told him to find his own! We ask admin at SMU where there clinicals are, never any answers. Nobody can get transcripts! Nobody has transcrits! Nobody can get there legal docs. The admin always threaten us. They tell us if we leave they will be sure we never take USMLE. There all crooks. SMU did not give us grades from Dec. semester! We forced to come back in January to get them and were forced to sign paper saying we would not leave before we get our grades! Some of us are getting help to get out. Original lady PS screwed so many she not allowed back on island. So her husband (Dr. S) and other owner JB continue to screw us. Dr. S is not even a dr. We pray everyday that minister of education here closes them. They are a disgrace. You WILL lose your money if you come here and you WILL NOT ever get your doctor degree! All website is a lie. Most people on site fired long time ago. 6th dean was fired 3 weeks ago. He forbidden to talk to us for 2 years! Most teachers on site never been here. You have been WARNED!

Share


| I totally agree with jimdoctor and reasons are following..
1) S is not medical doctor as claimed by Jeff. S has done Phd from UIUC and hence is using Dr to fool the aspirants and the current students of SMU.
2) Dr ****** as shown one of the faculty has no teaching experience and is real sister of S.
3) Dr Sonia ***** is BDS not DDS as mentioned on the site and for Jeff's information BDS is not at all equivalent to DDS.
4) Dr ****** ******* is real brother in law of S.

5) There are many faculty members with MBBS degree only how can they teach to students who are preparing for USMLE ???
WHAT A JOKE

6) PS AND S have been involved in many hacking cases and they are on bail in an asian country ( any day they will be behind bars)

7) The only student who has applied for licence in USA is the son of PS and S and his name also starts with P.

i KNOW ALL THIS AS HE WAS WITH US IN POLAND AND ALWAYS BOASTING ABOUT ALL THIS.

iF ANY OF THE INFORMATION IS WRONG THEN i AM READY TO FACE ANY LEGAL ACTION ANYWHARE IN THE WORLD.
jEFF !! You are newly associated with them so please do your research about the management of SMU and then support the cause .

reality_talk
06-15-2012, 10:46 AM
Another fact sheet about SMU and It's New OWNER 'S Management skills


pathway



Join Date: Mar 2011

Disappointment - should have listened to umhs






I think people are waiting for a current update on St Martinus and there hasn't been any. So, for all you guys waiting for a report from the "New" school, here it is. Unfortunately, I hate for my first post on ValueMD to be in a negative slant, but things are what they are. It's not a good first report. It's just that you see things happen here that you just don't see anywhere else. I'd have to say that so far WR's letter in November of warning points to consider are right on and he could have even added a few! Come here if you want to wake up in a new world everyday! We are even on our 3rd Dean! Hows that for only being here 2 months! Neither the previous Dean and certainly not the owners have any experience with running a medical school! (understatement of the year). It's literally a daily "learn on the job" situation. It's a day to day experiment! At our expense and sanity.

So far, all of our classes have changed so many times we've lost count. Get this one: we actually had 6 classes all at one time- all in one day! How would you like those apples! It gave us a whole new meaning for study ALL night! Epi, Immuno, Pharm, Path, ICM, and Micro? Or just as good - they lumped the MD1 with MD2's! Seriously, they did. Owners said 4 students wasn't enough to do a separate MD1 class so they just stuck them in MD2! Oh that's smart! HA They really didn't need that cell bio, histo and anatomy for anything! They can get thru med school a lot faster if they just skip all those silly classes and just start right into Physio and genetics! We play musical classrooms everyday, but no need to go far- there's only 4 classrooms and a library! They won't spend any money on getting the campus to look like a school- its basically a total dump. Broken windows, no paint, junk in the courtyard with a fabulous crop of weeds! Don't have weed killer in Curacao? We have 2 little bathrooms at the tops of flights of steps- good thing we don't have any handicapped- they'd be out of luck! You gotta hurdle chains daily just to get to the front door. The front of the building is lined with disgusting containers. No money is spent on anything - we even have to share a projector between classrooms! Our poor profs! So frustrating! We use extension cords for our computers. We finally got a copy machine last week- wahoo! Internet is a never know status. Library books outdated. Mosquitoes everywhere - 3 people have gotten dengue fever in the last month! These people must have got a good deal on this school and are determined to spend as little money as possible! Don't know if its because they are cheap or they just don't have it- either way- pretty sad or pretty scary, not sure which! Hopefully they have enough to support the school for a couple of years. Let go of some $$$ guys, why don't you hire some people and get this place fixed up! Make it look like a school inside and out. The picture of the school on the website looks great, but can you spell ....... photoshop?

Speaking of the website- not much is accurate. Most of the site is out of date and has wrong info. We are all still trying to figure out who all the faculty is that is listed under faculty. Outside of 2 of them, we have no idea who all these people are. Let's talk about housing and expenses: Get an apartment for $350 - yep in your wildest dreams- try more like $800 to $1100. Oh wait, the owner (PS) told us that if 4 people rented this unfurnished, non air conditioned house (not in a good area) that it would be $350 a person! So I guess you actually can get something for $350- just don't count the high $$$$ you will have to spend on furniture or that you will die of heat from no A/C or that you better not need to walk there after dark! If that doesn't work for you, you get to choose to live in a hotel with mold (we have our own Royal here too - HA) or you can choose to live in what everyone calls the "prison"- an apartment complex behind bars and barbed wire- and located 50 feet from the main exit ramp to the main highway! Yep- nice and quiet for study (NOT)! It's not bad if you don't mind the sounds of cars, motorcycles, and sirens in your room 24/7. If those 2 places don't suit you, then your on your own. Good luck, you won't get any help from the school to find housing, or anything else for that matter. They can't even tell you where anything is on this island! Our orientation, was NO orientation! And do we have any kind of a schedule for dates of anything? Nope, and if we did, they would be constantly changed! We have seen few of the promises made to us come around. And they actually wonder what would cause us to question things?

Then the real kicker, don't try to ask questions or express concerns here - oh no, don't make that mistake. We have learned that that is a big no-no (unless you are one of the "pets"). That's when the tantrums roll. In our very first meeting we heard "we want to be here for you", "we want to make this school the best", "call me mom" (my mom doesn't treat me like we are treated here), "come to us with any problems".....yada...yada...yada. I think they really did mean this at first and then when school really started and huge problems surfaced, they just found they were WAY over their heads. All these comments sure sounded good, but didn't last long. We did come to them when we were a LITTLE overwhelmed with 6 full time classes a day! (Maybe someone forgot to tell them this was a med school). Other people were also coming to them with real problems. Big mistake- Guess they didn't like that! The owner (PS) suddenly fires the Dean and brings in the whole school for a meeting and WHAM-BAM- she treats us like total crap! She told us to stop whinning, to grow up, our only problem was that we needed to study more and work harder! That went over well! (NOT). We all just sat there in disbelief! Sorry for her, she hired a Dean that didn't know jack squat about running a med school - but then the woman actually didn't realize that scheduling us with 6 classes would be classified as STUPID!! Hello, any lights on here? I have a hamster at home that would know that you don't do that. (any common sense at play here?) We finally got half our classes cut out, so we wasted more than a month in classes we didn't need. MD1s finally got their own real class! MD1s are still waiting on their White Coat ceremony - guess its gone to the White Coat Ceremony in the sky. But the MD1s are doing good as long as they don't mind an anatomy lab without any air circulation or the small detail of NO teacher to teach dissections! So are the cadavers are here for what reason? MD1s are still combined with MD2 in genetics. So do they get to take it again next semester? But then wait- MD2 and MD3 are both being combined for neuro in a few weeks! Hmmm? As it is now most of the MD classes are in school from 8 till 5, so much for that realistic schedule we were promised to have to allow us enough study time as compared to where we were. HAHA Its 10x worse! We got lucky when they cut half our classes, so we have a life. But give them time, I'm sure they will fix that! Or they will just fix our classes like some of the other MD classes on campus- how about the MD2s taking a 5 hr biochemistry course and spending 10 hrs a week in class? Or a 3 hr genetics class but spending 5 or more hours a week in class? We just totally do our own thing down here. Nothing is standard.
And this even goes for firings. No notice or warnings for anyone- Nope- Bam- you're fired. The Dean and one of our teachers met this fate. Amazing.

It gets better! We just got another warning about the clinical sites from "another" school. Guess some students decided to actually check them out. Don't know what they found out but boy did the s....t hit the fan. MD2's got their rear ends reamed! Even though several others checked on them too, MD2s took the rap. (Sorry, but thanks guys). The owner sent out an email sometime this past week which got circulated around. Doesn't she know that nothing is secret between students! Some of us finally got a copy of the email today- pretty sad. (Excerpts of the email is at the bottom of this post). This is actually written by the OWNER of our school! It's just one of those things you have to see to believe. Talk about pis....ing people off! What owner would actually write an email like this? A little maturity please! Can you see WR doing this? Hahahahahahaha, not in 1000 years, no matter how mad he might be. Its going to be a long road for her if she has a hissy fit every time someone questions her. She may not get questioned in India or in her company in Austin, but she's gonna get questions here. Oh yea, the funny part of the email - the trust part, I'm sure we all know that the Caribbean schools are ALL about trust HAHAHAHA. Who does she think she is that she can't be questioned, is she above it or afraid of questions? Maybe she forgot that we are the ones paying HER and we are entitled to get answers to our questions. Is she going to do this every time someone questions her? She's 2 for 2 now! Seems a little odd to me that she's so mad that people are checking into those clinical sites! Why doesn't she just tell everyone what contracts they do and don't have, they've been asking. How hard is that? No other schools mind telling you. If they have them, it shouldn't be any biggie- right? Hmmm......????? Does make you really wonder? Are they real or just used as bait to get us here? Who knows. But if you question anything here, beware. Man lady! Stay with your internet company- hopefully your new dean will run the school now and get things straightened out! He's a good guy with lots of energy. We may have a chance with him. You are into the internet stuff, so shouldn't you be working on getting the internet site corrected with accurate and up to date info instead.

Man, even with the issues we had at UMHS, we are beginning to think we were better off there! We just had to deal with some rude profs and memorizing our way to the USMLE in super speed mode. But at least we could review in Maine! We had a real school, nice campus, cafeteria (although that could be debatable), had internet, had a bus, had a generator, had power points printed for us, had help to find housing, we could always ask any questions and never expect to be trashed and taken for granted! I know that if some of us knew we would get credit for the classes we are taking now and be able to stay with our UMHS class, we would probably think about moving back.

And if the people in this email really have such bad grades, what's being done to help them improve, or is the only interest in bashing them? Bad grades and drop outs aren't going to help the schools record either. Maybe the school should be more concerned with helping them instead of throwing a hissy fit and using them as a scapegoat for venting. But wait.....we're supposed to have TA's to do that! (those are those smart guys that help you learn what you are having trouble with so you can make better grades), but no, we don't have those either. Probably because the school does not to pay them anything. The school wants everyone to volunteer for everything. I think we are the only school without TA's. And the "believe it or not" list grows!

So guys, check back before coming here, there is a ways to go. Maybe next semester things will get better, we certainly hope so. When they said count on a rocky semester, they weren't kidding! But I think we'd prefer to say its closer to boulders! Its sure been a disappointment so far. I could go on but I think you get the picture. We will just hang in there and hope for the best! I REALLY hope that the next time I post all these problems will have improved. I know they are trying, but its going to take a lot more time, maturing, and money to get things on the path that they originally pictured the school to be on.



Excerpt from the Email sent by the owner this week:

"SGA members, I have a problem with the rumor mongers and I need your help in resolving this issue. I have had to get involved in these things on a daily basis which is nothing but counterproductive.

I will bet my life that the people who are spreading these rumors ALL have bad grades – they do not study because they are busy inventing a new rumor for the day. I am sorry if you have had any bad experiences in the past with your schools, it is about time to get over it. If all you do every day is to start a new rumor to suit your fancy instead of paying attention to your school work, I can promise you that you WILL NOT ever reach the rotations so it is worthless for you to worry about it anyways!!

The school has been upfront about everything with you then why do you need to check on something we are telling you? This clearly states that you do not trust us. Remember trust is a two way street.

If you do not trust the school, you really DO NOT belong here. We have a decent family and there is no room for lies, cheating and RUMOR MONGERING from your side. The school will not get any new rotations if you keep calling and harassing the administrative staff of the hospitals. You need to bicker about this issue if/when you have taken step1 and the school does not get you your clinicals.

Someone started a rumor last week that people are being kicked out of Plaza. This person does not even live in the plaza. He just likes to say baseless things and does not let facts come in his way at all.

Totally disgusted with this behavior,
PS"
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reality_talk
06-15-2012, 10:50 AM
Another fact sheet about SMU and It's New OWNER 'S Management skills


pathway



Join Date: Mar 2011

Disappointment - should have listened to umhs






I think people are waiting for a current update on St Martinus and there hasn't been any. So, for all you guys waiting for a report from the "New" school, here it is. Unfortunately, I hate for my first post on ValueMD to be in a negative slant, but things are what they are. It's not a good first report. It's just that you see things happen here that you just don't see anywhere else. I'd have to say that so far WR's letter in November of warning points to consider are right on and he could have even added a few! Come here if you want to wake up in a new world everyday! We are even on our 3rd Dean! Hows that for only being here 2 months! Neither the previous Dean and certainly not the owners have any experience with running a medical school! (understatement of the year). It's literally a daily "learn on the job" situation. It's a day to day experiment! At our expense and sanity.

So far, all of our classes have changed so many times we've lost count. Get this one: we actually had 6 classes all at one time- all in one day! How would you like those apples! It gave us a whole new meaning for study ALL night! Epi, Immuno, Pharm, Path, ICM, and Micro? Or just as good - they lumped the MD1 with MD2's! Seriously, they did. Owners said 4 students wasn't enough to do a separate MD1 class so they just stuck them in MD2! Oh that's smart! HA They really didn't need that cell bio, histo and anatomy for anything! They can get thru med school a lot faster if they just skip all those silly classes and just start right into Physio and genetics! We play musical classrooms everyday, but no need to go far- there's only 4 classrooms and a library! They won't spend any money on getting the campus to look like a school- its basically a total dump. Broken windows, no paint, junk in the courtyard with a fabulous crop of weeds! Don't have weed killer in Curacao? We have 2 little bathrooms at the tops of flights of steps- good thing we don't have any handicapped- they'd be out of luck! You gotta hurdle chains daily just to get to the front door. The front of the building is lined with disgusting containers. No money is spent on anything - we even have to share a projector between classrooms! Our poor profs! So frustrating! We use extension cords for our computers. We finally got a copy machine last week- wahoo! Internet is a never know status. Library books outdated. Mosquitoes everywhere - 3 people have gotten dengue fever in the last month! These people must have got a good deal on this school and are determined to spend as little money as possible! Don't know if its because they are cheap or they just don't have it- either way- pretty sad or pretty scary, not sure which! Hopefully they have enough to support the school for a couple of years. Let go of some $$$ guys, why don't you hire some people and get this place fixed up! Make it look like a school inside and out. The picture of the school on the website looks great, but can you spell ....... photoshop?

Speaking of the website- not much is accurate. Most of the site is out of date and has wrong info. We are all still trying to figure out who all the faculty is that is listed under faculty. Outside of 2 of them, we have no idea who all these people are. Let's talk about housing and expenses: Get an apartment for $350 - yep in your wildest dreams- try more like $800 to $1100. Oh wait, the owner (PS) told us that if 4 people rented this unfurnished, non air conditioned house (not in a good area) that it would be $350 a person! So I guess you actually can get something for $350- just don't count the high $$$$ you will have to spend on furniture or that you will die of heat from no A/C or that you better not need to walk there after dark! If that doesn't work for you, you get to choose to live in a hotel with mold (we have our own Royal here too - HA) or you can choose to live in what everyone calls the "prison"- an apartment complex behind bars and barbed wire- and located 50 feet from the main exit ramp to the main highway! Yep- nice and quiet for study (NOT)! It's not bad if you don't mind the sounds of cars, motorcycles, and sirens in your room 24/7. If those 2 places don't suit you, then your on your own. Good luck, you won't get any help from the school to find housing, or anything else for that matter. They can't even tell you where anything is on this island! Our orientation, was NO orientation! And do we have any kind of a schedule for dates of anything? Nope, and if we did, they would be constantly changed! We have seen few of the promises made to us come around. And they actually wonder what would cause us to question things?

Then the real kicker, don't try to ask questions or express concerns here - oh no, don't make that mistake. We have learned that that is a big no-no (unless you are one of the "pets"). That's when the tantrums roll. In our very first meeting we heard "we want to be here for you", "we want to make this school the best", "call me mom" (my mom doesn't treat me like we are treated here), "come to us with any problems".....yada...yada...yada. I think they really did mean this at first and then when school really started and huge problems surfaced, they just found they were WAY over their heads. All these comments sure sounded good, but didn't last long. We did come to them when we were a LITTLE overwhelmed with 6 full time classes a day! (Maybe someone forgot to tell them this was a med school). Other people were also coming to them with real problems. Big mistake- Guess they didn't like that! The owner (PS) suddenly fires the Dean and brings in the whole school for a meeting and WHAM-BAM- she treats us like total crap! She told us to stop whinning, to grow up, our only problem was that we needed to study more and work harder! That went over well! (NOT). We all just sat there in disbelief! Sorry for her, she hired a Dean that didn't know jack squat about running a med school - but then the woman actually didn't realize that scheduling us with 6 classes would be classified as STUPID!! Hello, any lights on here? I have a hamster at home that would know that you don't do that. (any common sense at play here?) We finally got half our classes cut out, so we wasted more than a month in classes we didn't need. MD1s finally got their own real class! MD1s are still waiting on their White Coat ceremony - guess its gone to the White Coat Ceremony in the sky. But the MD1s are doing good as long as they don't mind an anatomy lab without any air circulation or the small detail of NO teacher to teach dissections! So are the cadavers are here for what reason? MD1s are still combined with MD2 in genetics. So do they get to take it again next semester? But then wait- MD2 and MD3 are both being combined for neuro in a few weeks! Hmmm? As it is now most of the MD classes are in school from 8 till 5, so much for that realistic schedule we were promised to have to allow us enough study time as compared to where we were. HAHA Its 10x worse! We got lucky when they cut half our classes, so we have a life. But give them time, I'm sure they will fix that! Or they will just fix our classes like some of the other MD classes on campus- how about the MD2s taking a 5 hr biochemistry course and spending 10 hrs a week in class? Or a 3 hr genetics class but spending 5 or more hours a week in class? We just totally do our own thing down here. Nothing is standard.
And this even goes for firings. No notice or warnings for anyone- Nope- Bam- you're fired. The Dean and one of our teachers met this fate. Amazing.

It gets better! We just got another warning about the clinical sites from "another" school. Guess some students decided to actually check them out. Don't know what they found out but boy did the s....t hit the fan. MD2's got their rear ends reamed! Even though several others checked on them too, MD2s took the rap. (Sorry, but thanks guys). The owner sent out an email sometime this past week which got circulated around. Doesn't she know that nothing is secret between students! Some of us finally got a copy of the email today- pretty sad. (Excerpts of the email is at the bottom of this post). This is actually written by the OWNER of our school! It's just one of those things you have to see to believe. Talk about pis....ing people off! What owner would actually write an email like this? A little maturity please! Can you see WR doing this? Hahahahahahaha, not in 1000 years, no matter how mad he might be. Its going to be a long road for her if she has a hissy fit every time someone questions her. She may not get questioned in India or in her company in Austin, but she's gonna get questions here. Oh yea, the funny part of the email - the trust part, I'm sure we all know that the Caribbean schools are ALL about trust HAHAHAHA. Who does she think she is that she can't be questioned, is she above it or afraid of questions? Maybe she forgot that we are the ones paying HER and we are entitled to get answers to our questions. Is she going to do this every time someone questions her? She's 2 for 2 now! Seems a little odd to me that she's so mad that people are checking into those clinical sites! Why doesn't she just tell everyone what contracts they do and don't have, they've been asking. How hard is that? No other schools mind telling you. If they have them, it shouldn't be any biggie- right? Hmmm......????? Does make you really wonder? Are they real or just used as bait to get us here? Who knows. But if you question anything here, beware. Man lady! Stay with your internet company- hopefully your new dean will run the school now and get things straightened out! He's a good guy with lots of energy. We may have a chance with him. You are into the internet stuff, so shouldn't you be working on getting the internet site corrected with accurate and up to date info instead.

Man, even with the issues we had at UMHS, we are beginning to think we were better off there! We just had to deal with some rude profs and memorizing our way to the USMLE in super speed mode. But at least we could review in Maine! We had a real school, nice campus, cafeteria (although that could be debatable), had internet, had a bus, had a generator, had power points printed for us, had help to find housing, we could always ask any questions and never expect to be trashed and taken for granted! I know that if some of us knew we would get credit for the classes we are taking now and be able to stay with our UMHS class, we would probably think about moving back.

And if the people in this email really have such bad grades, what's being done to help them improve, or is the only interest in bashing them? Bad grades and drop outs aren't going to help the schools record either. Maybe the school should be more concerned with helping them instead of throwing a hissy fit and using them as a scapegoat for venting. But wait.....we're supposed to have TA's to do that! (those are those smart guys that help you learn what you are having trouble with so you can make better grades), but no, we don't have those either. Probably because the school does not to pay them anything. The school wants everyone to volunteer for everything. I think we are the only school without TA's. And the "believe it or not" list grows!

So guys, check back before coming here, there is a ways to go. Maybe next semester things will get better, we certainly hope so. When they said count on a rocky semester, they weren't kidding! But I think we'd prefer to say its closer to boulders! Its sure been a disappointment so far. I could go on but I think you get the picture. We will just hang in there and hope for the best! I REALLY hope that the next time I post all these problems will have improved. I know they are trying, but its going to take a lot more time, maturing, and money to get things on the path that they originally pictured the school to be on.



Excerpt from the Email sent by the owner this week:

"SGA members, I have a problem with the rumor mongers and I need your help in resolving this issue. I have had to get involved in these things on a daily basis which is nothing but counterproductive.

I will bet my life that the people who are spreading these rumors ALL have bad grades – they do not study because they are busy inventing a new rumor for the day. I am sorry if you have had any bad experiences in the past with your schools, it is about time to get over it. If all you do every day is to start a new rumor to suit your fancy instead of paying attention to your school work, I can promise you that you WILL NOT ever reach the rotations so it is worthless for you to worry about it anyways!!

The school has been upfront about everything with you then why do you need to check on something we are telling you? This clearly states that you do not trust us. Remember trust is a two way street.

If you do not trust the school, you really DO NOT belong here. We have a decent family and there is no room for lies, cheating and RUMOR MONGERING from your side. The school will not get any new rotations if you keep calling and harassing the administrative staff of the hospitals. You need to bicker about this issue if/when you have taken step1 and the school does not get you your clinicals.

Someone started a rumor last week that people are being kicked out of Plaza. This person does not even live in the plaza. He just likes to say baseless things and does not let facts come in his way at all.

Totally disgusted with this behavior,
PS"
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reality_talk
06-15-2012, 10:54 AM
Another fact sheet about SMU and It's New OWNER 'S Management skills


pathway



Join Date: Mar 2011

Disappointment - should have listened to umhs






I think people are waiting for a current update on St Martinus and there hasn't been any. So, for all you guys waiting for a report from the "New" school, here it is. Unfortunately, I hate for my first post on ValueMD to be in a negative slant, but things are what they are. It's not a good first report. It's just that you see things happen here that you just don't see anywhere else. I'd have to say that so far WR's letter in November of warning points to consider are right on and he could have even added a few! Come here if you want to wake up in a new world everyday! We are even on our 3rd Dean! Hows that for only being here 2 months! Neither the previous Dean and certainly not the owners have any experience with running a medical school! (understatement of the year). It's literally a daily "learn on the job" situation. It's a day to day experiment! At our expense and sanity.

So far, all of our classes have changed so many times we've lost count. Get this one: we actually had 6 classes all at one time- all in one day! How would you like those apples! It gave us a whole new meaning for study ALL night! Epi, Immuno, Pharm, Path, ICM, and Micro? Or just as good - they lumped the MD1 with MD2's! Seriously, they did. Owners said 4 students wasn't enough to do a separate MD1 class so they just stuck them in MD2! Oh that's smart! HA They really didn't need that cell bio, histo and anatomy for anything! They can get thru med school a lot faster if they just skip all those silly classes and just start right into Physio and genetics! We play musical classrooms everyday, but no need to go far- there's only 4 classrooms and a library! They won't spend any money on getting the campus to look like a school- its basically a total dump. Broken windows, no paint, junk in the courtyard with a fabulous crop of weeds! Don't have weed killer in Curacao? We have 2 little bathrooms at the tops of flights of steps- good thing we don't have any handicapped- they'd be out of luck! You gotta hurdle chains daily just to get to the front door. The front of the building is lined with disgusting containers. No money is spent on anything - we even have to share a projector between classrooms! Our poor profs! So frustrating! We use extension cords for our computers. We finally got a copy machine last week- wahoo! Internet is a never know status. Library books outdated. Mosquitoes everywhere - 3 people have gotten dengue fever in the last month! These people must have got a good deal on this school and are determined to spend as little money as possible! Don't know if its because they are cheap or they just don't have it- either way- pretty sad or pretty scary, not sure which! Hopefully they have enough to support the school for a couple of years. Let go of some $$$ guys, why don't you hire some people and get this place fixed up! Make it look like a school inside and out. The picture of the school on the website looks great, but can you spell ....... photoshop?

Speaking of the website- not much is accurate. Most of the site is out of date and has wrong info. We are all still trying to figure out who all the faculty is that is listed under faculty. Outside of 2 of them, we have no idea who all these people are. Let's talk about housing and expenses: Get an apartment for $350 - yep in your wildest dreams- try more like $800 to $1100. Oh wait, the owner (PS) told us that if 4 people rented this unfurnished, non air conditioned house (not in a good area) that it would be $350 a person! So I guess you actually can get something for $350- just don't count the high $$$$ you will have to spend on furniture or that you will die of heat from no A/C or that you better not need to walk there after dark! If that doesn't work for you, you get to choose to live in a hotel with mold (we have our own Royal here too - HA) or you can choose to live in what everyone calls the "prison"- an apartment complex behind bars and barbed wire- and located 50 feet from the main exit ramp to the main highway! Yep- nice and quiet for study (NOT)! It's not bad if you don't mind the sounds of cars, motorcycles, and sirens in your room 24/7. If those 2 places don't suit you, then your on your own. Good luck, you won't get any help from the school to find housing, or anything else for that matter. They can't even tell you where anything is on this island! Our orientation, was NO orientation! And do we have any kind of a schedule for dates of anything? Nope, and if we did, they would be constantly changed! We have seen few of the promises made to us come around. And they actually wonder what would cause us to question things?

Then the real kicker, don't try to ask questions or express concerns here - oh no, don't make that mistake. We have learned that that is a big no-no (unless you are one of the "pets"). That's when the tantrums roll. In our very first meeting we heard "we want to be here for you", "we want to make this school the best", "call me mom" (my mom doesn't treat me like we are treated here), "come to us with any problems".....yada...yada...yada. I think they really did mean this at first and then when school really started and huge problems surfaced, they just found they were WAY over their heads. All these comments sure sounded good, but didn't last long. We did come to them when we were a LITTLE overwhelmed with 6 full time classes a day! (Maybe someone forgot to tell them this was a med school). Other people were also coming to them with real problems. Big mistake- Guess they didn't like that! The owner (PS) suddenly fires the Dean and brings in the whole school for a meeting and WHAM-BAM- she treats us like total crap! She told us to stop whinning, to grow up, our only problem was that we needed to study more and work harder! That went over well! (NOT). We all just sat there in disbelief! Sorry for her, she hired a Dean that didn't know jack squat about running a med school - but then the woman actually didn't realize that scheduling us with 6 classes would be classified as STUPID!! Hello, any lights on here? I have a hamster at home that would know that you don't do that. (any common sense at play here?) We finally got half our classes cut out, so we wasted more than a month in classes we didn't need. MD1s finally got their own real class! MD1s are still waiting on their White Coat ceremony - guess its gone to the White Coat Ceremony in the sky. But the MD1s are doing good as long as they don't mind an anatomy lab without any air circulation or the small detail of NO teacher to teach dissections! So are the cadavers are here for what reason? MD1s are still combined with MD2 in genetics. So do they get to take it again next semester? But then wait- MD2 and MD3 are both being combined for neuro in a few weeks! Hmmm? As it is now most of the MD classes are in school from 8 till 5, so much for that realistic schedule we were promised to have to allow us enough study time as compared to where we were. HAHA Its 10x worse! We got lucky when they cut half our classes, so we have a life. But give them time, I'm sure they will fix that! Or they will just fix our classes like some of the other MD classes on campus- how about the MD2s taking a 5 hr biochemistry course and spending 10 hrs a week in class? Or a 3 hr genetics class but spending 5 or more hours a week in class? We just totally do our own thing down here. Nothing is standard.
And this even goes for firings. No notice or warnings for anyone- Nope- Bam- you're fired. The Dean and one of our teachers met this fate. Amazing.

It gets better! We just got another warning about the clinical sites from "another" school. Guess some students decided to actually check them out. Don't know what they found out but boy did the s....t hit the fan. MD2's got their rear ends reamed! Even though several others checked on them too, MD2s took the rap. (Sorry, but thanks guys). The owner sent out an email sometime this past week which got circulated around. Doesn't she know that nothing is secret between students! Some of us finally got a copy of the email today- pretty sad. (Excerpts of the email is at the bottom of this post). This is actually written by the OWNER of our school! It's just one of those things you have to see to believe. Talk about pis....ing people off! What owner would actually write an email like this? A little maturity please! Can you see WR doing this? Hahahahahahaha, not in 1000 years, no matter how mad he might be. Its going to be a long road for her if she has a hissy fit every time someone questions her. She may not get questioned in India or in her company in Austin, but she's gonna get questions here. Oh yea, the funny part of the email - the trust part, I'm sure we all know that the Caribbean schools are ALL about trust HAHAHAHA. Who does she think she is that she can't be questioned, is she above it or afraid of questions? Maybe she forgot that we are the ones paying HER and we are entitled to get answers to our questions. Is she going to do this every time someone questions her? She's 2 for 2 now! Seems a little odd to me that she's so mad that people are checking into those clinical sites! Why doesn't she just tell everyone what contracts they do and don't have, they've been asking. How hard is that? No other schools mind telling you. If they have them, it shouldn't be any biggie- right? Hmmm......????? Does make you really wonder? Are they real or just used as bait to get us here? Who knows. But if you question anything here, beware. Man lady! Stay with your internet company- hopefully your new dean will run the school now and get things straightened out! He's a good guy with lots of energy. We may have a chance with him. You are into the internet stuff, so shouldn't you be working on getting the internet site corrected with accurate and up to date info instead.

Man, even with the issues we had at UMHS, we are beginning to think we were better off there! We just had to deal with some rude profs and memorizing our way to the USMLE in super speed mode. But at least we could review in Maine! We had a real school, nice campus, cafeteria (although that could be debatable), had internet, had a bus, had a generator, had power points printed for us, had help to find housing, we could always ask any questions and never expect to be trashed and taken for granted! I know that if some of us knew we would get credit for the classes we are taking now and be able to stay with our UMHS class, we would probably think about moving back.

And if the people in this email really have such bad grades, what's being done to help them improve, or is the only interest in bashing them? Bad grades and drop outs aren't going to help the schools record either. Maybe the school should be more concerned with helping them instead of throwing a hissy fit and using them as a scapegoat for venting. But wait.....we're supposed to have TA's to do that! (those are those smart guys that help you learn what you are having trouble with so you can make better grades), but no, we don't have those either. Probably because the school does not to pay them anything. The school wants everyone to volunteer for everything. I think we are the only school without TA's. And the "believe it or not" list grows!

So guys, check back before coming here, there is a ways to go. Maybe next semester things will get better, we certainly hope so. When they said count on a rocky semester, they weren't kidding! But I think we'd prefer to say its closer to boulders! Its sure been a disappointment so far. I could go on but I think you get the picture. We will just hang in there and hope for the best! I REALLY hope that the next time I post all these problems will have improved. I know they are trying, but its going to take a lot more time, maturing, and money to get things on the path that they originally pictured the school to be on.



Excerpt from the Email sent by the owner this week:

"SGA members, I have a problem with the rumor mongers and I need your help in resolving this issue. I have had to get involved in these things on a daily basis which is nothing but counterproductive.

I will bet my life that the people who are spreading these rumors ALL have bad grades they do not study because they are busy inventing a new rumor for the day. I am sorry if you have had any bad experiences in the past with your schools, it is about time to get over it. If all you do every day is to start a new rumor to suit your fancy instead of paying attention to your school work, I can promise you that you WILL NOT ever reach the rotations so it is worthless for you to worry about it anyways!!

The school has been upfront about everything with you then why do you need to check on something we are telling you? This clearly states that you do not trust us. Remember trust is a two way street.

If you do not trust the school, you really DO NOT belong here. We have a decent family and there is no room for lies, cheating and RUMOR MONGERING from your side. The school will not get any new rotations if you keep calling and harassing the administrative staff of the hospitals. You need to bicker about this issue if/when you have taken step1 and the school does not get you your clinicals.

Someone started a rumor last week that people are being kicked out of Plaza. This person does not even live in the plaza. He just likes to say baseless things and does not let facts come in his way at all.

Totally disgusted with this behavior,
PS"
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reality_talk
06-15-2012, 11:03 AM
Another fact sheet about SMU and It's New OWNER 'S Management skills


pathway



Join Date: Mar 2011

Disappointment - should have listened to umhs






I think people are waiting for a current update on St Martinus and there hasn't been any. So, for all you guys waiting for a report from the "New" school, here it is. Unfortunately, I hate for my first post on ValueMD to be in a negative slant, but things are what they are. It's not a good first report. It's just that you see things happen here that you just don't see anywhere else. I'd have to say that so far WR's letter in November of warning points to consider are right on and he could have even added a few! Come here if you want to wake up in a new world everyday! We are even on our 3rd Dean! Hows that for only being here 2 months! Neither the previous Dean and certainly not the owners have any experience with running a medical school! (understatement of the year). It's literally a daily "learn on the job" situation. It's a day to day experiment! At our expense and sanity.

So far, all of our classes have changed so many times we've lost count. Get this one: we actually had 6 classes all at one time- all in one day! How would you like those apples! It gave us a whole new meaning for study ALL night! Epi, Immuno, Pharm, Path, ICM, and Micro? Or just as good - they lumped the MD1 with MD2's! Seriously, they did. Owners said 4 students wasn't enough to do a separate MD1 class so they just stuck them in MD2! Oh that's smart! HA They really didn't need that cell bio, histo and anatomy for anything! They can get thru med school a lot faster if they just skip all those silly classes and just start right into Physio and genetics! We play musical classrooms everyday, but no need to go far- there's only 4 classrooms and a library! They won't spend any money on getting the campus to look like a school- its basically a total dump. Broken windows, no paint, junk in the courtyard with a fabulous crop of weeds! Don't have weed killer in Curacao? We have 2 little bathrooms at the tops of flights of steps- good thing we don't have any handicapped- they'd be out of luck! You gotta hurdle chains daily just to get to the front door. The front of the building is lined with disgusting containers. No money is spent on anything - we even have to share a projector between classrooms! Our poor profs! So frustrating! We use extension cords for our computers. We finally got a copy machine last week- wahoo! Internet is a never know status. Library books outdated. Mosquitoes everywhere - 3 people have gotten dengue fever in the last month! These people must have got a good deal on this school and are determined to spend as little money as possible! Don't know if its because they are cheap or they just don't have it- either way- pretty sad or pretty scary, not sure which! Hopefully they have enough to support the school for a couple of years. Let go of some $$$ guys, why don't you hire some people and get this place fixed up! Make it look like a school inside and out. The picture of the school on the website looks great, but can you spell ....... photoshop?

Speaking of the website- not much is accurate. Most of the site is out of date and has wrong info. We are all still trying to figure out who all the faculty is that is listed under faculty. Outside of 2 of them, we have no idea who all these people are. Let's talk about housing and expenses: Get an apartment for $350 - yep in your wildest dreams- try more like $800 to $1100. Oh wait, the owner (PS) told us that if 4 people rented this unfurnished, non air conditioned house (not in a good area) that it would be $350 a person! So I guess you actually can get something for $350- just don't count the high $$$$ you will have to spend on furniture or that you will die of heat from no A/C or that you better not need to walk there after dark! If that doesn't work for you, you get to choose to live in a hotel with mold (we have our own Royal here too - HA) or you can choose to live in what everyone calls the "prison"- an apartment complex behind bars and barbed wire- and located 50 feet from the main exit ramp to the main highway! Yep- nice and quiet for study (NOT)! It's not bad if you don't mind the sounds of cars, motorcycles, and sirens in your room 24/7. If those 2 places don't suit you, then your on your own. Good luck, you won't get any help from the school to find housing, or anything else for that matter. They can't even tell you where anything is on this island! Our orientation, was NO orientation! And do we have any kind of a schedule for dates of anything? Nope, and if we did, they would be constantly changed! We have seen few of the promises made to us come around. And they actually wonder what would cause us to question things?

Then the real kicker, don't try to ask questions or express concerns here - oh no, don't make that mistake. We have learned that that is a big no-no (unless you are one of the "pets"). That's when the tantrums roll. In our very first meeting we heard "we want to be here for you", "we want to make this school the best", "call me mom" (my mom doesn't treat me like we are treated here), "come to us with any problems".....yada...yada...yada. I think they really did mean this at first and then when school really started and huge problems surfaced, they just found they were WAY over their heads. All these comments sure sounded good, but didn't last long. We did come to them when we were a LITTLE overwhelmed with 6 full time classes a day! (Maybe someone forgot to tell them this was a med school). Other people were also coming to them with real problems. Big mistake- Guess they didn't like that! The owner (PS) suddenly fires the Dean and brings in the whole school for a meeting and WHAM-BAM- she treats us like total crap! She told us to stop whinning, to grow up, our only problem was that we needed to study more and work harder! That went over well! (NOT). We all just sat there in disbelief! Sorry for her, she hired a Dean that didn't know jack squat about running a med school - but then the woman actually didn't realize that scheduling us with 6 classes would be classified as STUPID!! Hello, any lights on here? I have a hamster at home that would know that you don't do that. (any common sense at play here?) We finally got half our classes cut out, so we wasted more than a month in classes we didn't need. MD1s finally got their own real class! MD1s are still waiting on their White Coat ceremony - guess its gone to the White Coat Ceremony in the sky. But the MD1s are doing good as long as they don't mind an anatomy lab without any air circulation or the small detail of NO teacher to teach dissections! So are the cadavers are here for what reason? MD1s are still combined with MD2 in genetics. So do they get to take it again next semester? But then wait- MD2 and MD3 are both being combined for neuro in a few weeks! Hmmm? As it is now most of the MD classes are in school from 8 till 5, so much for that realistic schedule we were promised to have to allow us enough study time as compared to where we were. HAHA Its 10x worse! We got lucky when they cut half our classes, so we have a life. But give them time, I'm sure they will fix that! Or they will just fix our classes like some of the other MD classes on campus- how about the MD2s taking a 5 hr biochemistry course and spending 10 hrs a week in class? Or a 3 hr genetics class but spending 5 or more hours a week in class? We just totally do our own thing down here. Nothing is standard.
And this even goes for firings. No notice or warnings for anyone- Nope- Bam- you're fired. The Dean and one of our teachers met this fate. Amazing.

It gets better! We just got another warning about the clinical sites from "another" school. Guess some students decided to actually check them out. Don't know what they found out but boy did the s....t hit the fan. MD2's got their rear ends reamed! Even though several others checked on them too, MD2s took the rap. (Sorry, but thanks guys). The owner sent out an email sometime this past week which got circulated around. Doesn't she know that nothing is secret between students! Some of us finally got a copy of the email today- pretty sad. (Excerpts of the email is at the bottom of this post). This is actually written by the OWNER of our school! It's just one of those things you have to see to believe. Talk about pis....ing people off! What owner would actually write an email like this? A little maturity please! Can you see WR doing this? Hahahahahahaha, not in 1000 years, no matter how mad he might be. Its going to be a long road for her if she has a hissy fit every time someone questions her. She may not get questioned in India or in her company in Austin, but she's gonna get questions here. Oh yea, the funny part of the email - the trust part, I'm sure we all know that the Caribbean schools are ALL about trust HAHAHAHA. Who does she think she is that she can't be questioned, is she above it or afraid of questions? Maybe she forgot that we are the ones paying HER and we are entitled to get answers to our questions. Is she going to do this every time someone questions her? She's 2 for 2 now! Seems a little odd to me that she's so mad that people are checking into those clinical sites! Why doesn't she just tell everyone what contracts they do and don't have, they've been asking. How hard is that? No other schools mind telling you. If they have them, it shouldn't be any biggie- right? Hmmm......????? Does make you really wonder? Are they real or just used as bait to get us here? Who knows. But if you question anything here, beware. Man lady! Stay with your internet company- hopefully your new dean will run the school now and get things straightened out! He's a good guy with lots of energy. We may have a chance with him. You are into the internet stuff, so shouldn't you be working on getting the internet site corrected with accurate and up to date info instead.

Man, even with the issues we had at UMHS, we are beginning to think we were better off there! We just had to deal with some rude profs and memorizing our way to the USMLE in super speed mode. But at least we could review in Maine! We had a real school, nice campus, cafeteria (although that could be debatable), had internet, had a bus, had a generator, had power points printed for us, had help to find housing, we could always ask any questions and never expect to be trashed and taken for granted! I know that if some of us knew we would get credit for the classes we are taking now and be able to stay with our UMHS class, we would probably think about moving back.

And if the people in this email really have such bad grades, what's being done to help them improve, or is the only interest in bashing them? Bad grades and drop outs aren't going to help the schools record either. Maybe the school should be more concerned with helping them instead of throwing a hissy fit and using them as a scapegoat for venting. But wait.....we're supposed to have TA's to do that! (those are those smart guys that help you learn what you are having trouble with so you can make better grades), but no, we don't have those either. Probably because the school does not to pay them anything. The school wants everyone to volunteer for everything. I think we are the only school without TA's. And the "believe it or not" list grows!

So guys, check back before coming here, there is a ways to go. Maybe next semester things will get better, we certainly hope so. When they said count on a rocky semester, they weren't kidding! But I think we'd prefer to say its closer to boulders! Its sure been a disappointment so far. I could go on but I think you get the picture. We will just hang in there and hope for the best! I REALLY hope that the next time I post all these problems will have improved. I know they are trying, but its going to take a lot more time, maturing, and money to get things on the path that they originally pictured the school to be on.



Excerpt from the Email sent by the owner this week:

"SGA members, I have a problem with the rumor mongers and I need your help in resolving this issue. I have had to get involved in these things on a daily basis which is nothing but counterproductive.

I will bet my life that the people who are spreading these rumors ALL have bad grades they do not study because they are busy inventing a new rumor for the day. I am sorry if you have had any bad experiences in the past with your schools, it is about time to get over it. If all you do every day is to start a new rumor to suit your fancy instead of paying attention to your school work, I can promise you that you WILL NOT ever reach the rotations so it is worthless for you to worry about it anyways!!

The school has been upfront about everything with you then why do you need to check on something we are telling you? This clearly states that you do not trust us. Remember trust is a two way street.

If you do not trust the school, you really DO NOT belong here. We have a decent family and there is no room for lies, cheating and RUMOR MONGERING from your side. The school will not get any new rotations if you keep calling and harassing the administrative staff of the hospitals. You need to bicker about this issue if/when you have taken step1 and the school does not get you your clinicals.

Someone started a rumor last week that people are being kicked out of Plaza. This person does not even live in the plaza. He just likes to say baseless things and does not let facts come in his way at all.

Totally disgusted with this behavior,
PS"
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reality_talk
06-15-2012, 11:07 AM
Another fact sheet about SMU and It's New OWNER 'S Management skills


pathway



Join Date: Mar 2011

Disappointment - should have listened to umhs






I think people are waiting for a current update on St Martinus and there hasn't been any. So, for all you guys waiting for a report from the "New" school, here it is. Unfortunately, I hate for my first post on ValueMD to be in a negative slant, but things are what they are. It's not a good first report. It's just that you see things happen here that you just don't see anywhere else. I'd have to say that so far WR's letter in November of warning points to consider are right on and he could have even added a few! Come here if you want to wake up in a new world everyday! We are even on our 3rd Dean! Hows that for only being here 2 months! Neither the previous Dean and certainly not the owners have any experience with running a medical school! (understatement of the year). It's literally a daily "learn on the job" situation. It's a day to day experiment! At our expense and sanity.

So far, all of our classes have changed so many times we've lost count. Get this one: we actually had 6 classes all at one time- all in one day! How would you like those apples! It gave us a whole new meaning for study ALL night! Epi, Immuno, Pharm, Path, ICM, and Micro? Or just as good - they lumped the MD1 with MD2's! Seriously, they did. Owners said 4 students wasn't enough to do a separate MD1 class so they just stuck them in MD2! Oh that's smart! HA They really didn't need that cell bio, histo and anatomy for anything! They can get thru med school a lot faster if they just skip all those silly classes and just start right into Physio and genetics! We play musical classrooms everyday, but no need to go far- there's only 4 classrooms and a library! They won't spend any money on getting the campus to look like a school- its basically a total dump. Broken windows, no paint, junk in the courtyard with a fabulous crop of weeds! Don't have weed killer in Curacao? We have 2 little bathrooms at the tops of flights of steps- good thing we don't have any handicapped- they'd be out of luck! You gotta hurdle chains daily just to get to the front door. The front of the building is lined with disgusting containers. No money is spent on anything - we even have to share a projector between classrooms! Our poor profs! So frustrating! We use extension cords for our computers. We finally got a copy machine last week- wahoo! Internet is a never know status. Library books outdated. Mosquitoes everywhere - 3 people have gotten dengue fever in the last month! These people must have got a good deal on this school and are determined to spend as little money as possible! Don't know if its because they are cheap or they just don't have it- either way- pretty sad or pretty scary, not sure which! Hopefully they have enough to support the school for a couple of years. Let go of some $$$ guys, why don't you hire some people and get this place fixed up! Make it look like a school inside and out. The picture of the school on the website looks great, but can you spell ....... photoshop?

Speaking of the website- not much is accurate. Most of the site is out of date and has wrong info. We are all still trying to figure out who all the faculty is that is listed under faculty. Outside of 2 of them, we have no idea who all these people are. Let's talk about housing and expenses: Get an apartment for $350 - yep in your wildest dreams- try more like $800 to $1100. Oh wait, the owner (PS) told us that if 4 people rented this unfurnished, non air conditioned house (not in a good area) that it would be $350 a person! So I guess you actually can get something for $350- just don't count the high $$$$ you will have to spend on furniture or that you will die of heat from no A/C or that you better not need to walk there after dark! If that doesn't work for you, you get to choose to live in a hotel with mold (we have our own Royal here too - HA) or you can choose to live in what everyone calls the "prison"- an apartment complex behind bars and barbed wire- and located 50 feet from the main exit ramp to the main highway! Yep- nice and quiet for study (NOT)! It's not bad if you don't mind the sounds of cars, motorcycles, and sirens in your room 24/7. If those 2 places don't suit you, then your on your own. Good luck, you won't get any help from the school to find housing, or anything else for that matter. They can't even tell you where anything is on this island! Our orientation, was NO orientation! And do we have any kind of a schedule for dates of anything? Nope, and if we did, they would be constantly changed! We have seen few of the promises made to us come around. And they actually wonder what would cause us to question things?

Then the real kicker, don't try to ask questions or express concerns here - oh no, don't make that mistake. We have learned that that is a big no-no (unless you are one of the "pets"). That's when the tantrums roll. In our very first meeting we heard "we want to be here for you", "we want to make this school the best", "call me mom" (my mom doesn't treat me like we are treated here), "come to us with any problems".....yada...yada...yada. I think they really did mean this at first and then when school really started and huge problems surfaced, they just found they were WAY over their heads. All these comments sure sounded good, but didn't last long. We did come to them when we were a LITTLE overwhelmed with 6 full time classes a day! (Maybe someone forgot to tell them this was a med school). Other people were also coming to them with real problems. Big mistake- Guess they didn't like that! The owner (PS) suddenly fires the Dean and brings in the whole school for a meeting and WHAM-BAM- she treats us like total crap! She told us to stop whinning, to grow up, our only problem was that we needed to study more and work harder! That went over well! (NOT). We all just sat there in disbelief! Sorry for her, she hired a Dean that didn't know jack squat about running a med school - but then the woman actually didn't realize that scheduling us with 6 classes would be classified as STUPID!! Hello, any lights on here? I have a hamster at home that would know that you don't do that. (any common sense at play here?) We finally got half our classes cut out, so we wasted more than a month in classes we didn't need. MD1s finally got their own real class! MD1s are still waiting on their White Coat ceremony - guess its gone to the White Coat Ceremony in the sky. But the MD1s are doing good as long as they don't mind an anatomy lab without any air circulation or the small detail of NO teacher to teach dissections! So are the cadavers are here for what reason? MD1s are still combined with MD2 in genetics. So do they get to take it again next semester? But then wait- MD2 and MD3 are both being combined for neuro in a few weeks! Hmmm? As it is now most of the MD classes are in school from 8 till 5, so much for that realistic schedule we were promised to have to allow us enough study time as compared to where we were. HAHA Its 10x worse! We got lucky when they cut half our classes, so we have a life. But give them time, I'm sure they will fix that! Or they will just fix our classes like some of the other MD classes on campus- how about the MD2s taking a 5 hr biochemistry course and spending 10 hrs a week in class? Or a 3 hr genetics class but spending 5 or more hours a week in class? We just totally do our own thing down here. Nothing is standard.
And this even goes for firings. No notice or warnings for anyone- Nope- Bam- you're fired. The Dean and one of our teachers met this fate. Amazing.

It gets better! We just got another warning about the clinical sites from "another" school. Guess some students decided to actually check them out. Don't know what they found out but boy did the s....t hit the fan. MD2's got their rear ends reamed! Even though several others checked on them too, MD2s took the rap. (Sorry, but thanks guys). The owner sent out an email sometime this past week which got circulated around. Doesn't she know that nothing is secret between students! Some of us finally got a copy of the email today- pretty sad. (Excerpts of the email is at the bottom of this post). This is actually written by the OWNER of our school! It's just one of those things you have to see to believe. Talk about pis....ing people off! What owner would actually write an email like this? A little maturity please! Can you see WR doing this? Hahahahahahaha, not in 1000 years, no matter how mad he might be. Its going to be a long road for her if she has a hissy fit every time someone questions her. She may not get questioned in India or in her company in Austin, but she's gonna get questions here. Oh yea, the funny part of the email - the trust part, I'm sure we all know that the Caribbean schools are ALL about trust HAHAHAHA. Who does she think she is that she can't be questioned, is she above it or afraid of questions? Maybe she forgot that we are the ones paying HER and we are entitled to get answers to our questions. Is she going to do this every time someone questions her? She's 2 for 2 now! Seems a little odd to me that she's so mad that people are checking into those clinical sites! Why doesn't she just tell everyone what contracts they do and don't have, they've been asking. How hard is that? No other schools mind telling you. If they have them, it shouldn't be any biggie- right? Hmmm......????? Does make you really wonder? Are they real or just used as bait to get us here? Who knows. But if you question anything here, beware. Man lady! Stay with your internet company- hopefully your new dean will run the school now and get things straightened out! He's a good guy with lots of energy. We may have a chance with him. You are into the internet stuff, so shouldn't you be working on getting the internet site corrected with accurate and up to date info instead.

Man, even with the issues we had at UMHS, we are beginning to think we were better off there! We just had to deal with some rude profs and memorizing our way to the USMLE in super speed mode. But at least we could review in Maine! We had a real school, nice campus, cafeteria (although that could be debatable), had internet, had a bus, had a generator, had power points printed for us, had help to find housing, we could always ask any questions and never expect to be trashed and taken for granted! I know that if some of us knew we would get credit for the classes we are taking now and be able to stay with our UMHS class, we would probably think about moving back.

And if the people in this email really have such bad grades, what's being done to help them improve, or is the only interest in bashing them? Bad grades and drop outs aren't going to help the schools record either. Maybe the school should be more concerned with helping them instead of throwing a hissy fit and using them as a scapegoat for venting. But wait.....we're supposed to have TA's to do that! (those are those smart guys that help you learn what you are having trouble with so you can make better grades), but no, we don't have those either. Probably because the school does not to pay them anything. The school wants everyone to volunteer for everything. I think we are the only school without TA's. And the "believe it or not" list grows!

So guys, check back before coming here, there is a ways to go. Maybe next semester things will get better, we certainly hope so. When they said count on a rocky semester, they weren't kidding! But I think we'd prefer to say its closer to boulders! Its sure been a disappointment so far. I could go on but I think you get the picture. We will just hang in there and hope for the best! I REALLY hope that the next time I post all these problems will have improved. I know they are trying, but its going to take a lot more time, maturing, and money to get things on the path that they originally pictured the school to be on.



Excerpt from the Email sent by the owner this week:

"SGA members, I have a problem with the rumor mongers and I need your help in resolving this issue. I have had to get involved in these things on a daily basis which is nothing but counterproductive.

I will bet my life that the people who are spreading these rumors ALL have bad grades they do not study because they are busy inventing a new rumor for the day. I am sorry if you have had any bad experiences in the past with your schools, it is about time to get over it. If all you do every day is to start a new rumor to suit your fancy instead of paying attention to your school work, I can promise you that you WILL NOT ever reach the rotations so it is worthless for you to worry about it anyways!!

The school has been upfront about everything with you then why do you need to check on something we are telling you? This clearly states that you do not trust us. Remember trust is a two way street.

If you do not trust the school, you really DO NOT belong here. We have a decent family and there is no room for lies, cheating and RUMOR MONGERING from your side. The school will not get any new rotations if you keep calling and harassing the administrative staff of the hospitals. You need to bicker about this issue if/when you have taken step1 and the school does not get you your clinicals.

Someone started a rumor last week that people are being kicked out of Plaza. This person does not even live in the plaza. He just likes to say baseless things and does not let facts come in his way at all.

Totally disgusted with this behavior,
PS"
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