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jhtran
07-19-2009, 09:56 PM
I've just talked to UQ and their average acceptance stat is 3.5GPA and 30P-MCAT... which I think is a bit too high... What do you guys think?

dadoc
07-20-2009, 06:47 PM
Yes it is too high. If you come from the US/Canada/UK then coming to Australia is pretty pointless if you can get those stats. No doubt you can get into a low-tier or even mid tier med school with that in your home country.

The exception of course is that you want to practice in Aus.

Im curious to know what USyd reqs are. UQ is easily one of the worst university programs, yet it has a ridiculous requirement.

Vox
07-28-2009, 02:17 AM
Even for the undergraduate medical program, the requirements are too high. I was amazed when I didnt get accepted to the UQ program because of my OP. I got an OP 7, however, this was because my schools curriculum was vastly harder than any other school and they thought that the QLD education system would rank our school higher due to the heavier curriculim.. My school appealed twice, and I personally appealed 4 times to have my scores changed. I was denied each time. I even appealed when I was declined from the medical program with no avail.

My stats were:
- OP 7 (Equivalent UAI of 88-90)
- UMAT score in 93 percentile
- QCS score: A
- MCAT score: 33 (dont know why I took the MCAT as HS student, but most things in it we had covered in school)

I was very disappointed. Especially with UQ, who told me that the OP was an important regulator and it would be "unfair" to the other applicants if they considered MCAT scores and school curicculum.

dadoc
07-28-2009, 06:42 AM
Same sort of thing happened to me when I applied for UQ...

Im guessing its not uncommon.

futureboy
07-31-2009, 12:03 AM
Even for the undergraduate medical program, the requirements are too high. I was amazed when I didnt get accepted to the UQ program because of my OP. I got an OP 7, however, this was because my schools curriculum was vastly harder than any other school and they thought that the QLD education system would rank our school higher due to the heavier curriculim.. My school appealed twice, and I personally appealed 4 times to have my scores changed. I was denied each time. I even appealed when I was declined from the medical program with no avail.

My stats were:
- OP 7 (Equivalent UAI of 88-90)
- UMAT score in 93 percentile
- QCS score: A
- MCAT score: 33 (dont know why I took the MCAT as HS student, but most things in it we had covered in school)

I was very disappointed. Especially with UQ, who told me that the OP was an important regulator and it would be "unfair" to the other applicants if they considered MCAT scores and school curicculum.

You got a 33 MCAT as a high school student? Wow.

Vox
08-04-2009, 05:58 PM
You got a 33 MCAT as a high school student? Wow.

Yes. My school covered about 60-80% of everything on the MCAT on its curriculum and more, which is basically why I got screwed in my OP, and I studied my *** off for a year preparing. I had to travel to Sydney to take the exam and only 2 other people were taking it.

Regardless, the MCAT means nothing in Australia. I lost my place to music and art students...

dzungsaurom
08-05-2009, 04:37 PM
33 on MCAT for a HS student with a low GPA wow! It does not make sense at all.

Vox
08-06-2009, 04:13 AM
33 on MCAT for a HS student with a low GPA wow! It does not make sense at all.

We dont have a GPA system. Its a completely screwed up system. In short, my chosen subjects, my curriculum and the amazing people at Queensland education who dont know intelligence from "taking the easy road" caused me to not get the grades I wanted. I basically got screwed over and lost my place to music and art students.

I appealed several times and was rejected because "it wouldnt be fair to the other students who got in, even though they didnt deserve it".

The MCAT score was nothing less than proof of my intelligence in a broken system. Which didnt get validated at all.

kitch
08-06-2009, 11:29 PM
Do you have to take MCAT ?

dzungsaurom
08-06-2009, 11:33 PM
I just received an offer from UQ/Oshner program. I have a 3.5 GPA from UCI and 29R on my MCAT.

dadoc
08-07-2009, 12:08 AM
Australian students do not need the MCAT.

Congrats on getting in. Where do you intend to practice? If you want to go back to the US, I wouldnt waste my time with UQ. If you wanted to stay in Aus, I wouldnt waste my time with UQ. You probably could get into USyd or Melbourne with those stats.

mylssexm
08-07-2009, 04:01 AM
Australian students do not need the MCAT.

Congrats on getting in. Where do you intend to practice? If you want to go back to the US, I wouldnt waste my time with UQ. If you wanted to stay in Aus, I wouldnt waste my time with UQ. You probably could get into USyd or Melbourne with those stats.

I'm just curious to know what makes you loathe UQ so much, dadoc? I'm planning to study med in Australia, and I'd just like to get a better picture of each school before I look into the admission process. Thanks.

dadoc
08-07-2009, 04:08 AM
I did a year of med there, before I realised how horrifically crap it truely is.

It is just ** prestige that allows this pathetic excuse for a school to survive. Take a visit to the campus (if you can even call it that) and I garuntee you, you will turn away.

dzungsaurom
08-07-2009, 05:28 PM
I went to a UQ presentation at Ochsner in May and was very impress with the quality of Med students from UQ. If I decide not to there only because the fee is high ($135K for the 2 years in Australia) and is about $50K higher for Med student from the regular program.

Vox
08-07-2009, 07:06 PM
I went to a UQ presentation at Ochsner in May and was very impress with the quality of Med students from UQ. If I decide not to there only because the fee is high ($135K for the 2 years in Australia) and is about $50K higher for Med student from the regular program.

No doubt they took their best students to show off. I have a friend who goes there, and he regrets it. He said he would even rather go to a lower tier med school like Griffith or JCU rather than UQ.

If you want to move back to the US, I highly recommend not to come to Australia at all. Nothing is aimed at the USMLE, infact, the regular UQ curicullum is a 1 year basic science... They arent going to go out of their way to prepare you at all. The main idea, is to give you exposure in the US. I would recommend a Caribbean school, the Big 4 would consider you.

If you want to practice in Australia, or at least complete your residency training, the big 3 universities are University of Sydney, University of Melbourne and UNSW. UNSW isnt so much as prestigous as it is a big international student taker. If you got accepted at UQ, you should be consider for USyd and UOM

futbolfan
08-14-2009, 10:41 AM
I just received an offer from UQ/Oshner program. I have a 3.5 GPA from UCI and 29R on my MCAT.


Hey dzungsaurom,

Just wanted to ask how long it took to get your acceptance? (i'm from the US)

dzungsaurom
08-14-2009, 03:50 PM
I turned in my application around mid June and UQ probably received may MCAT score & UCI transcript by the end of June.







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