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CubanBSEE
07-06-2009, 08:29 PM
I read a survey on the school that implies that professor's don't teach! Is this true? Is anyone currently attending that can add to this? I am finishing a degree in electrical engineering and it's hard work, sometimes i have to study many things on my own, but professor's actually put in time to lecture but that's not enough, i still have to study on my own. I can do that for med school no problem. But teach EVERY subject on my own? I don't think so. I would need to get certain things clarified. Any input? Is there any school in the caribe that will offer better teaching?

ERNEST714
07-06-2009, 08:50 PM
Well, i may not be the greatest professor but i do try to teach and since all of my training has been in the usa......including 45 years of practice.......i have been around the block and feel i can give a lot of insight.....and yes, you do have to work a great deal on your own.....same as in the usa .......at least where i went to school. Lot of blood sweat and tears.....but if you want it bad enough you will make it.....does not take a genius to be a doctor or i would never have made it....but i was willing to spend a lot of time working and studying.......are you?

CubanBSEE
07-06-2009, 09:34 PM
I am willing to put all my energy and dedication towards it. I've been able to acomplish an engineering education with a full-time job in my hands as well. Even though I wanted to get a degree in medicine and not engineering in the first place. But I tried following the standard in the US. Although I know now that I can't afford it here. Stafford loans will only cover 20,500 and I don't have credit to get the plus loans. So I have to go to a school that I can subsidize my living expenses and tuition cost with that money on a yearly basis. Do you think this is possible?

losackmd
07-07-2009, 01:04 AM
let me more frank and to the point than ERNEST who i respect greatly.
not one single professor at UCE taught me a thing. I wasnt listening. And, i needed to study to come back home to the USA so i studied for the ECFMG/FLEX during all my classes. I memorized their folletos so i passed every test to pass the course, but depend on a teacher in the DR to teach me? Why? dont count on it? you dont need it?
there might be stuff in the clinicals you will pick up, but MOST IMPORTANTLY you need to PASS THE EXAMS TO COME BACK HOME. Most of the DR docs cant even speak English let alone pass the USMLE/ECFMG . YOU need to know what AMERICA IS going to ask you and study that. NOT expect the PROFS to teach you. DONT!
they wont! ill debate anyone on this issue. None of my cohorts paid a second of attention to anything the profs there said. We studied the course work passed their tests, but had more important things to worry about. A brief story if you have the time. I never went to one single class in Patofisiologia. NOT ONE! it was a decent folleto, i memorized it, scored 100 on the final. The prof never knew me i never knew him and we both went on our merry way. ITs all in the books! you need to books the notes to pass to exams to get back here. THATS the pure unadulterated truth.

october
07-07-2009, 05:54 AM
The one and only semester spent at UCE had a huge volume to learn, namely anatomy from the classical anatomist Rouviere. The other courses were more than enough to keep busy. I don't recall any of the professors speaking in English.

In the 2 main cities, Santo Domingo and Santiago, there are indeed quite a few that speak, teach, and have trained in english speaking countries. Places like San Pedro de Macoris do not attract dominican physicians that have trained in the USA/Europe.

Anyway, since I graduated in Santo Domingo I can say it studying was a great experience. Of course there were occasional rocks on the highway, but on the whole the professors were great.
The majority of them had done residencies in the USA, taught in English when need be, and made the lectures/clinicals quite enjoyable, and yes, hard work. Much of it was applicable to helping pass USA boards. Forum rules prohibit posting names, but many of them are vivid in my mind as if it were yesterday. Some were even dual boarded USA. Even residents were able to speak adequate English to teach at hospitals and in surgical labs.
I saw major differences between UCE and the capitol, albeit I spent one sem there. Others have echoed your sentiments of UCE.

Even USMG's study specifically for boards as the classroom stuff alone is not enough.

CubanBSEE
07-07-2009, 08:43 PM
So the program at UCE is not in english? What language are the books on? I was actually thinking that if professors are bad in english is probably better to go to a school that they teach in spanish because i can understand the language very well. And maybe just buy the USMLE books from here and start preparing as I take the pertient courses. Also, does anyone have any idea on passing rates for students from UCE, UNIBE and INTEC when they take the USMLEs here in the US?

Frankb250
07-08-2009, 04:51 AM
I've seen post like these to many times now... I mean I asked how the classes were going to be like just to sort of get a ballpark estimate of how much work I would have to put into the class itself and how much work I would have to put into my own personal studies. I came to the conclusion that asking these types of questions are pointless because everyone this forums is different some will slack off while others will study. It'll take hard work, but it's not impossible. If you really want to become a MD and really have it in you to do it, then just do what you have to do.

P.S: I'm a personal fan of Dr. Holbrook and Dr. Losack. I've been just reading up on this site for quite a while now. Reading the insightful things you put up here is extremely enlightening. You have answered some of my questions without me having to ask them. Thank you for that.

sieunee
07-16-2009, 03:59 AM
first of all, what do you mean by UNIBE professors don't teach? If they don't teach, how and why do they get paid?

I'm starting med 5 this September and i guess i'm about to find out whether they teach or NOT, lol. My goal is to become a great doctor and I am mighty determined to study my *** off whether or not professors teach. you can't just rely on professors or certain types of books to get through med school. at least that's what i believe.

i heard the class is around 35 students? hope to help each other out and get along, lol. btw, is there anyone who doesn't speak spanish like me?

CubanBSEE
07-16-2009, 02:45 PM
That was just a question. I don't know much about the system over there. Nonetheless, I am also a very enthusiastic about this opportunity since I can't subsidize med school in the states.

tahaa
07-16-2009, 04:24 PM
The Professors do teach,!!!!!!, they come to class prepared, with lesson plans and presentations. And then usually they test you on the material that they have covered, in some classes you may need to do more independent learning to get a good grade, in others you can just directly study the professors lectures to get 100%.

A word of caution: not all professors are as approachable as Dr. Holbrook, you may get some professors that you'll have difficulty speaking to in class or after class for whatever reason. This does not only happen here, this happens at every university, you'll just have to do what you can to learn what you need to.

Also, the language barrier, some teacher's speak perfect english, some have a mild accent, some have a thick accent ,this is not unique to UNIBE, i'd say most schools have this situation as well. You'll have to get creative to learn what you need to learn. Ask your dominican classmates to help you ask questions always be polite and show that you're making the effort.

We would all like to be perfect but nobody is perfect.

Good luck to you all

CubanBSEE
07-16-2009, 05:33 PM
Thanks for your lines. I don't think I will have any trouble at all. I am more fluent in Spanish than English since I did most of my education in Cuba. I have only done some High School and College here. The on thing I know is that the spirit of Latin professors is much different than the American counterparts. This people here are unapproachable at times. They are very condescending and lack "calor humano" many times. At least, this has been my experience studying electrical engineering at Florida International University. I know from my professors in Cuba, that most were really approachable and you can actually ask them and their responses gave a feeling of caring. I guess this behavior can be attributed to the communist lifestyle of Latin America, versus US's individualistic focus.

etjusticepourtous
07-23-2009, 11:40 PM
Thanks for your lines. I don't think I will have any trouble at all. I am more fluent in Spanish than English since I did most of my education in Cuba. I have only done some High School and College here. The on thing I know is that the spirit of Latin professors is much different than the American counterparts. This people here are unapproachable at times. They are very condescending and lack "calor humano" many times. At least, this has been my experience studying electrical engineering at Florida International University. I know from my professors in Cuba, that most were really approachable and you can actually ask them and their responses gave a feeling of caring. I guess this behavior can be attributed to the communist lifestyle of Latin America, versus US's individualistic focus.


That's has been a big problem for me here in the Dominican Republic I'm extremely individualistic. Most professors chat with students and even try to memorize your name.

booger eater
07-24-2009, 09:16 PM
let me more frank and to the point than ERNEST who i respect greatly.
not one single professor at UCE taught me a thing. I wasnt listening. And, i needed to study to come back home to the USA so i studied for the ECFMG/FLEX during all my classes. I memorized their folletos so i passed every test to pass the course, but depend on a teacher in the DR to teach me? Why? dont count on it? you dont need it?
there might be stuff in the clinicals you will pick up, but MOST IMPORTANTLY you need to PASS THE EXAMS TO COME BACK HOME. Most of the DR docs cant even speak English let alone pass the USMLE/ECFMG . YOU need to know what AMERICA IS going to ask you and study that. NOT expect the PROFS to teach you. DONT!
they wont! ill debate anyone on this issue. None of my cohorts paid a second of attention to anything the profs there said. We studied the course work passed their tests, but had more important things to worry about. A brief story if you have the time. I never went to one single class in Patofisiologia. NOT ONE! it was a decent folleto, i memorized it, scored 100 on the final. The prof never knew me i never knew him and we both went on our merry way. ITs all in the books! you need to books the notes to pass to exams to get back here. THATS the pure unadulterated truth.

Very well said!

LaNana
09-21-2009, 09:30 AM
Ok-- I'm an UNIBE student, I hold a bachelor's degree in Biomedical Science and a masters in Nursing from two universities in the U.S.-- UNIBE Professors DO NOT teach. Some do, but they are the minority. It's up to you to do the grinding, sweating, and bleeding. But I have found I learn much more on my own, so this works for me.
And to clarify that they do "come prepared" from the previous post... trust me, you will learn very little from most UNIBE professors... that's if they show up to class! They are well known for not showing up to class, or they show up late. Two hour scheduled lectures run for less than an hour, and whenever you begin studying for your Steps you will realize that not 1/4 of what you need to know has been taught to you by UNIBE. Hospital rotations consist of you finding what, how and where to do it, on your very own... there is no direction.
So just hold on to your hat and come along for the ride... cause it's still worth it! The student that really wants to learn will do so with a good professor or a bad professor. And UNIBE does offer one of the better options in the DR.
Good luck to you!

nvu37
09-21-2009, 04:44 PM
Hi Everyone,
I already submit the application to UNIBE for Jan, 2010; but it has been over a month already , I have not receive any letter repling back to me. I have been calling and email them, but no responding. I really don't know how long does it to process the application?
Once I have accepted, what the next step that I should have done? When will I apply for the Staffort loan for the Jan, 2010 semester?
Will appreciate so much for your responding.

nvu37
09-21-2009, 05:47 PM
Ok-- I'm an UNIBE student, I hold a bachelor's degree in Biomedical Science and a masters in Nursing from two universities in the U.S.-- UNIBE Professors DO NOT teach. Some do, but they are the minority. It's up to you to do the grinding, sweating, and bleeding. But I have found I learn much more on my own, so this works for me.
And to clarify that they do "come prepared" from the previous post... trust me, you will learn very little from most UNIBE professors... that's if they show up to class! They are well known for not showing up to class, or they show up late. Two hour scheduled lectures run for less than an hour, and whenever you begin studying for your Steps you will realize that not 1/4 of what you need to know has been taught to you by UNIBE. Hospital rotations consist of you finding what, how and where to do it, on your very own... there is no direction.
So just hold on to your hat and come along for the ride... cause it's still worth it! The student that really wants to learn will do so with a good professor or a bad professor. And UNIBE does offer one of the better options in the DR.
Good luck to you!
hi,
do you speak very good Spanish? how did you learn Spanish in UNIBE? Is it hard?

october
10-09-2009, 11:55 AM
Although my studies date back 2 decades, I had many Dominican friends that had already passed the US exams even prior to graduation and spoke fine english. There were indeed MANY Dominican professors that had done residency in Europe or USA. Yes, there were also jerks but please rest assured, when you enter USA residency, you will encounter no lack of jerks either, be they attending physicians, or fellow residents. Wait until you are paired with an upper level "jerk" to teach you. Best of luck. We survive somehow. At least nowadays you don't absolutely have to work without sleep for 36 or more hours.......
I studied in SD. SPDM for some reason(s) or another didn't seem to attract many of the more accomplished physicians.

DaliaE
04-15-2015, 08:39 PM
first of all, what do you mean by UNIBE professors don't teach? If they don't teach, how and why do they get paid?

I'm starting med 5 this September and i guess i'm about to find out whether they teach or NOT, lol. My goal is to become a great doctor and I am mighty determined to study my *** off whether or not professors teach. you can't just rely on professors or certain types of books to get through med school. at least that's what i believe.

i heard the class is around 35 students? hope to help each other out and get along, lol. btw, is there anyone who doesn't speak spanish like me?
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did is you you finish at UNIBE? How did you do? Did you have to each yourself eventing? Professors don't hepl at all.

Es3000gt
05-15-2015, 11:53 AM
Hi cubanBSEE
I'm also in your same situation with the language and already have some college, looking forward to apply to unibe next year, my wife is Dominican and my sister in law is a doctor in dr,she recommended either unibe or Intec

Tamy13
05-20-2015, 12:57 PM
I read a survey on the school that implies that professor's don't teach! Is this true? Is anyone currently attending that can add to this? I am finishing a degree in electrical engineering and it's hard work, sometimes i have to study many things on my own, but professor's actually put in time to lecture but that's not enough, i still have to study on my own. I can do that for med school no problem. But teach EVERY subject on my own? I don't think so. I would need to get certain things clarified. Any input? Is there any school in the caribe that will offer better teaching?

Hi

I have not heard any complaints about UNPHU or Unibe professors so far from any of my family members attending these schools.

I would like to sincerely give a little of information to those wanting to pursue a Medical Career in Dominican Republic. I did a lot of research before deciding which school to send my daughter to. First of all I wanted to say that I have a niece that is currently at Unibe and has nothing bad to say about it. My daughter however is attending UNPHU, which has gotten a lot of bad reputation in these forums. I will tell you why we decided this was the best for her. My oldest son attended UNPHU and graduated last year. He did complete his rotations there and has since been doing his residency in Columbia University Hospital in New York. He did great in his boards. He left to UNPHU with very limited Spanish but did learned to perfected along the way. I should tell you that tuition at UNPHU is $4,000 per Semester and $1000 application Fee. Books range from 900 to 2000 pesos $20- $45 America dollars. Unphu is the school of opportunity the way I see it. My son was not accepted at UNIBE due to his GPA in the US. UNPHU gave him the opportunity and he graduated with honors top of his class. I do recommend medical school in either UNPHU or UNIBE. We chose UNPHU because it worked for our family.

I have lots of tips that would facilitate your move to DR if this is what you choose.

Tamy13
05-20-2015, 12:58 PM
We are also Cubans from Miami and are very happy with the education at UNPHU.

Tamy13
05-20-2015, 01:01 PM
My niece is still attending. I could speak for UNPHU not Unibe. There are lots of Transfer students from Unibe to Unphu.

Es3000gt
05-20-2015, 02:19 PM
I'm Cuban living in broward , Does unphu has rotations in Dr only ? Do you know any info about their step 1 passing rate?







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