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RSADOC2B
06-15-2008, 03:22 PM
when docking a dogs tail, is there much discomfort if the procedure is done within days afterbirth as apposed to later on in life?

Ant-Docking Alliance
06-16-2008, 05:32 AM
Are you assuming that anaesthetic is not being used?
Being a newcomer I apparently do not have enough posts to give you links to appropriate information which can be found on the Anti-Docking Alliance website. Below is one of the pages

Neonatal Pain and its effect on Adult Behaviour and Socialisation: a brief overview - kindly submitted by (Animal Welfare Science Ethics and Law Association - AWSELVA)

1.Introduction
Our understanding of pain control mechanisms in neonatal mammals has changed radically over the past twenty-five years. This brief overview seeks to present a brief synopsis of current understanding of neonatal pain with reference to the scientific studies on which it is based.

2. Descending Modulatory Control of Pain
The anatomical, physiological and neurological details of descending modulatory control of pain is well understood and has been described in detail by (Fields et al 1999) . In summary, the thalamus is the centre in the brain for perception of pain. Stimulation of specific sites in the brain has been consistently shown to produce analgesia in man; this phenomenon is known as "stimulation produced analgesia". The sites identified include the dorsolateral funiculus, the periaquaductal grey, the rostroventraomedial medulla and the dorsolateral pontine tegument. Large descending myelinated fibres have been identified in the spinal cord, which synapse with neurones from skin nociceptive cells in the dorsal horn of the spinal cord and inhibit transmission of afferent pain-induced nerve impulses to the higher centres.

3. Pain and Neonates
The developmental neurobiology of pain is summarised by [Fitzgerald, 1999 #750. While there is little known about the emotional experience of pain in the neonate, the nervous system of neonatal humans and rats shows mature nociceptive function, details of which have been described (Berde & Masek 1999) . <![endif]>
3.1Absence of descending modulatory control in neonates.
It has been demonstrated in rats that there is delayed connection of inhibitory pathways to spinal nociceptive cells; no
electrophysiological evidence of inhibition has been found until postnatal day 10 and there is histological evidence that the descending inhibitory neurones are still developing along the spinal cord. In human infants the threshold for the cutaneous flexor reflex is low at birth and gradually increases with age. Such reduced pain thresholds have also been demonstrated in neonatal rat pups and kittens. <![endif]>
3.2Neonates have normal physiological, hormonal and behavioural responses to pain.
Neonates have been shown to produce hormonal, physiological and behavioural stress responses, in response to pain, that are similar to those produced by adults, however they occur at lower thresholds. Such responses are reduced or diminished by the administration of analgesics in neonates.
3.3Neonates are hypersensitive to pain: routine pain control protocols in neonatal infants.
Thus, neonates are hypersensitive, rather than hyposensitive in comparison to an adult animal. The assessment and control of pain in neonatal infants is well developed and such protocols are routinely in use.

4.<![endif]> Effect of Neonatal Pain on Adult behaviour
Evidence for the long-term effect of neonatal pain on pain thresholds and behaviour in the adult is compelling but not
conclusive (Berde and Masek 1999) . These authors suggest that "the burden of proof lies with those who would withhold analgesics" (ibid) and this is an ethically defensible position as it would result in least harm being caused in the event of being wrong. Neonatal rat pups exposed to repetitive acute pain have been shown to have decreased pain thresholds and altered behaviour during adulthood (Anand et al 1999) . The authors suggest that data from this study indicates that repetitive pain in neonatal rat pups may lead to an altered development of the nociceptive system associated with decreased pain thresholds. Increased plasticity of the neonatal brain may allow these and other changes in brain development to increase their vulnerability to stress disorders and anxiety-mediated adult behaviour. Similar behavioural changes have been observed during the later childhood of pre-term neonates who were exposed to painful procedures during neonatal intensive care (ibid). Human male infants which have been circumcised have been shown to show increased behavioural responses to later vaccination (Taddio et al 1997) . There is mounting evidence that environmental manipulations in new-born rat pups may lead to persistent changes in endocrine, immune and behavioural reactivity in the adult (Meaney et al 1988; Pieretti et al 1991; Plotsky & Meaney 1993; Neveu et al 1994) . Neonatally stressed rats have decreased exploratory behaviour in novel environments, a lower threshold for learned helplessness and increased loss of hippocampal neurones associated with early onset cognitive defects in comparison with control groups of adult rats (Meaney et al 1988; Plotsky and Meaney 1993; Landfield et al 1996) . Even a single injection of an irritant substance into the hind paw of a neonatal rat has been found to increase pain behaviour in the adult animal.

5.Conclusions
Our contemporary view of pain control mechanisms in neonatal mammals, based on scientific studies, is that descending inhibitory pathways are immature whilst the neonate has an otherwise fully functioning nociceptive system. Neonates show hormonal, physiological and behavioural stress responses, in response to pain, that are similar to those produced by adults but at lower thresholds. Neonates are therefore likely to be hypersensitive to pain, rather than hyposensitive as previously thought. Furthermore, there is compelling evidence that painful experiences in the neonate cause anatomical and physiological changes to the adult nervous system which result in lower pain thresholds and increased anxiety related behaviour. Consequently, a comprehensive and appropriate regimen of anaesthetic and analgesia, including post operative analgesia, must be put in place to mitigate both the short and long term effects of neonatal pain arising from clinical and surgical procedures and to address the risk of causing unnecessary suffering.
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sisyphus
06-16-2008, 08:58 PM
I don't know why this forum has been getting hit with advocacy groups lately (i.e. PETA), but I agree with the above post and thoroughly enjoy some actual references and hints of scientific effort. Thanks!

Also, here is some info off a forum post from VIN (http://www.vin.com/) which is a little more concise.


I think whether neonates feel pain the same way as adults do is less important than whether they feel pain at all -- and they clearly do. The neurotransmitter systems and anatomic structures required for pain sensation and memory are already developed adequately in the neonate. So although they often don't display the same behavioral responses as adults in response to pain, they are still capable of feeling pain and suffering the physiologic consequences. Interesingly, in rats, descending inhibitory pathways are present at birth but are not functional before day 10 of life. Therefore, neonates may even have a heightened response to noxious stimuli, because the endogenous opioids cannot function in descending inhibitory modulation to diminish the pain response. And neonates of many species actually have a prolonged stress response (cortisol, catecholamine levels for example) compared to adults.
Good pain control in the neonate is important not only for the management of current pain but also for protection from future pain. Painful stimuli can induce persistent changes in the CNS that affect response to future pain. For example, preemptive analgesia for circumcision in human infants decreases the likelihood of a heightened response to subsequent painful procedures, such as vaccination, occurring months later. This suggests poorly controlled acute pain may lead to hyperalgesia and altered pain perception later in life. I think it would be interesting to do a similar study in dogs that had their tails docked with no analgesia.
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